First, re: shill.

You have a fraction of my total karma. I have been active for years in these communities. I partook in investigations and deep dives into Pizzagate connections across the Chans, Reddit (until banned) and then Voat.

To call me a shill is, at minimum, ludicrous and delicious. At most, delusional.

Second: This started from a thread stating "not to organize bake sales", so on, so forth and I ended up responding to a bit about "getting involved in your communities, make memes, get better at self defense, take over your local government".

Making memes doesn't stop them if they want to come for you.

Getting involved in your community doesn't minimize your vulnerabilities when alone.

Getting better at self defense doesn't matter when you are the next potential Waco and/or do nothing with it.

"Taking over your local government" is an uphill battle where meme warfare can be effective, but only until the cheating and propagandists win.

We have seen that people continue to gobble propaganda and spread it for free, and the solution isn't just memes, because they can be extremely easy to dismiss.

Where in these local governments have we actually created change since the steal?

We have yet to see any results of that. There have yet to be any major changes. There are some legal definition changes, and DeSantis is doing well but he is making one change that doesn't affect me in Michigan.

And to be clear, local government in Michigan is a shit storm right now.

Since the topic of the thread at large is, "what if the plan failed", it is incredibly disheartening to read people continue to swallow the rampant abuse and acting as if we aren't losing ground.

Losing isn't winning. Winning is winning. If we have to handwave every negative into a positive then that isn't winning, and that's a fact.

So I'll say it: The founding fathers would be ashamed of you and everyone else advocating for continuing to take the theft of our money, the destruction of our country and the potential plunge into a war with another nuclear superpower that has the largest standing army on the planet backing them without more than a few sabers rattling.

At a certain point, to the deep state, we started to look like North Korea has for years. We rattle our sabers, get tossed a bone and then move on to the next degree of this slow boiling pot.

Only now they don't even toss us a bone anymore. They just intend to keep pushing us down into submission. And I see people saying that they won't ever do anything about it no matter how bad it gets.

If you don't understand where I'm coming from with my disgust from that attitude, well, that's your problem I guess. I'm not going to be ashamed of the American fire ignited in my heart any longer.

Even Trump knew there had to be a red line. Collectively, we refuse to establish one ourselves. So when we are paying 375K Yuan for a gallon of illegal gas for our 14 year old illegal junkers after a quarter of our country becomes unsafe to travel due to nuclear fallout, do we still just sit at home?

I'm seriously curious, because for some reason as always we have never been able to agree on a red line. It has always made us easy targets and we have yet to adapt.

First, re: shill.

You have a fraction of my total karma. I have been active for years in these communities. I partook in investigations and deep dives into Pizzagate connections across the Chans, Reddit (until banned) and then Voat.

To call me a shill is, at minimum, ludicrous and delicious. At most, delusional.

Second: This started from a thread stating "not to organize bake sales", so on, so forth and I ended up responding to a bit about "getting involved in your communities, make memes, get better at self defense, take over your local government".

Making memes doesn't stop them if they want to come for you.

Getting involved in your community doesn't minimize your vulnerabilities when alone.

Getting better at self defense doesn't matter when you are the next potential Waco and/or do nothing with it.

"Taking over your local government" is an uphill battle where meme warfare can be effective, but only until the cheating and propagandists win.

We have seen that people continue to gobble propaganda and spread it for free, and the solution isn't just memes, because they can be extremely easy to dismiss.

Where in these local governments have we actually created change since the steal?

We have yet to see any results of that. There have yet to be any major changes. There are some legal definition changes, and DeSantis is doing well but he is making one change that doesn't affect me in Michigan.

And to be clear, local government in Michigan is a shit storm right now.

Since the topic of the thread at large is, "what if the plan failed", it is incredibly disheartening to read people continue to swallow the rampant abuse and acting as if we aren't losing ground.

Losing isn't winning. Winning is winning. If we have to handwave every negative into a positive then that isn't winning, and that's a fact.

So I'll say it: The founding fathers would be ashamed of you and everyone else advocating for continuing to take the theft of our money, the destruction of our country and the potential plunge into a war with another nuclear superpower that has the largest standing army on the planet backing them without more than a few sabers rattling.

At a certain point, to the deep state, we started to look like North Korea has for years. We rattle our sabers, get tossed a bone and then move on to the next degree of this slow boiling pot.

Only now they don't even toss us a bone anymore. They just intend to keep pushing us down into submission. And I see people saying that they won't ever do anything about it no matter how bad it gets.

If you don't understand where I'm coming from with my disgust from that attitude, well, that's your problem I guess. I'm not going to be ashamed of the American fire ignited in my heart any longer.