This is not what is taught as science.

Allan Savory says it is, in his experience.

A very important distinction is not "semantics" it is clarity.

With regard to Savory's comment, I do not think there is a distinction.

I am not saying that ALL science is misinformation. I am saying that key ideas are indoctrinated so that the students will turn out to push an agenda that is not about truth.

This is true for science, journalism, law, medicine, and probably underwater basket weaving, too.

Teaching trust is brainwashing.

I agree. And the way that is done is via misinformation (done by accident) and disinformation (done on purpose).

Mr. A comes up with a scheme to push a false narrative. Maybe he is the writer of a textbook or the higher-level administrator of a think tank or someone in Tony Fauci's position. He is engaging in disinformation (purposeful lies taught as truth).

Mr. B believes Mr. A's disinformation, not having verfied it for himself (due to not having enough intellectual curiosity and ethics), and passes it on to others, such as students. Mr. B thinks it is true, but he is wrong. He is passing on misinformation (false ideas, but believing they are true). Nobody in the system is more dangerous than Mr. B. The left is full of Mr. B's.

Mr. C receives this information from Mr. B, also believing it, because why would the "expert" Mr. B lie? Mr. C then gets a certification from some institution that is run by Mr. A's and Mr. B's. Mr. C goes out into the world waiving his credentials for all to act in awe of what an expert he is. But Mr. C does not realize he has been deceived and is continuing the deception on others. Mr. C is also pushing misinformation.

The general public becomes convinced that the lie is truth because Mr. C is all over the TV box, the newspaper and magazine articles, the "credible" internet websites, the government talking heads, etc.

The real problem is Mr. A. We need to root out that motherfucker.

Allan Savory says that new Master's and PhD students are churned out ... and they come to work for him ... and they ALL think that "science" MEANS "peer reviewed ideas -- and NOTHING ELSE." That's what he said.

I call that misinformation/disinformation.

You can pick at semantics all you want, but that is my position.

Regardless, it is a problem, and we need to get back to truth.

We need a new Age of Enlightenment, when Western Europe was coming out of the Dark/Middle Ages and rediscovering the Greek ideas of logic and reason.

This is why Mr. A has been able to hide in the shadows and do his dirty work.

The Great Awakening, if it happens en masse, will be the Age of Enlightenment, Part 2. And it can only come via logic and reason, since that is the only thing that can defeat emotional garbage.

This is not what is taught as science.

Allan Savory says it is, in his experience.

A very important distinction is not "semantics" it is clarity.

With regard to Savory's comment, I do not think there is a distinction.

I am not saying that ALL science is misinformation. I am saying that key ideas are indoctrinated so that the students will turn out to push an agenda that is not about truth.

This is true for science, journalism, law, medicine, and probably underwater basket weaving, too.

Teaching trust is brainwashing.

I agree. And the way that is done is via misinformation (done by accident) and disinformation (done on purpose).

Mr. A comes up with a scheme to push a false narrative. Maybe he is the writer of a textbook or the higher-level administrator of a think tank or someone in Tony Fauci's position. He is engaging in disinformation (purposeful lies taught as truth).

Mr. B believes Mr. A's disinformation, not having verfied it for himself (due to not having enough intellectual curiosity and ethics), and passes it on to others, such as students. Mr. B thinks it is true, but he is wrong. He is passing on misinformation (false ideas, but believing they are true). Nobody in the system is more dangerous than Mr. B. The left is full of Mr. B's.

Mr. C receives this information from Mr. B, also believing it, because why would the "expert" Mr. B lie? Mr. C then gets a certification from some institution that is run by Mr. A's and Mr. B's. Mr. C goes out into the world waiving his credentials for all to act in awe of what an expert he is. But Mr. C does not realize he has been deceived and is continuing the deception on others. Mr. C is also pushing misinformation.

The general public becomes convinced that the lie is truth because Mr. C is all over the TV box, the newspaper and magazine articles, the "credible" internet websites, the government talking heads, etc.

The real problem is Mr. A. We need to root out that motherfucker.

Allan Savory says that new Master's and PhD students are churned out ... and the come to work for him ... and the ALL think that "science" MEANS "peer reviewed ideas -- and NOTHING ELSE."

I call that misinformation/disinformation.

You can pick at semantics all you want, but that is my position.

Regardless, it is a problem, and we need to get back to truth.

We need a new Age of Enlightenment, when Western Europe was coming out of the Dark/Middle Ages and rediscovering the Greek ideas of logic and reason.

This is why Mr. A has been able to hide in the shadows and do his dirty work.

The Great Awakening, if it happens en masse, will be the Age of Enlightenment, Part 2. And it can only come via logic and reason, since that is the only thing that can defeat emotional garbage.