arch attitude

I think I’ve been quite cordial! What is an “arch attitude”?

and made unsubstantiated claims, with no offering of alternatives

Just let me know what claim you need substantiation of and/or alternative to and I’m happy to oblige if I can! Ask and ye shall receive!

You haven't given me a single reason to stop and listen, much less ask questions.

Nor do I intend to! If you want to know, you’ll ask (and/or earnestly and considerately read what I write; “listen” as you said) ! If you are happy to continue not knowing - you won’t. Simple! I can’t force you to learn about other perspectives and I wouldn’t even if I could!

they simply cannot identify a crucial fact that supports their position

Firstly, there really aren’t any flat earthers outside of the psyop and the useful idiots that fall for it. In any case, I’m a flat earth researcher - we study the psyop and related topics.

Secondly, what is a “crucial fact”? Can you provide an example?

like the observation of the "largely spherical" Earth from outer space

If it were YOUR observation it might be worth discussing, but personally I am more of a science lover. In science we don’t simply observe and declare, we measure and experiment! And as independent researchers/students we should never rely on unvalidated and unvalidateable claims for evidence (aka abject appeal to authority). There are very good reasons for keeping our discussion “down to earth” - the chief one being that the world, who’s shape we are discussing, is down here!

I am not interested in discourse with dishonest people.

Me neither! However, I have given you no reason to suspect dishonesty (and if I have, please cite a specific lie/falshood so I can meaningfully respond). I work very hard to be earnest and honest, and effective communication is very difficult and takes significant effort from all participants! Try not to rush to judgement if you can!

arch attitude

I think I’ve been quite cordial! What is an “arch attitude”?

and made unsubstantiated claims, with no offering of alternatives

Just let me know what claim you need substantiation of and/or alternative to and I’m happy to oblige if I can! Ask and ye shall receive!

You haven't given me a single reason to stop and listen, much less ask questions.

Nor do I intend to! If you want to know, you’ll ask! If you are happy to continue not knowing - you won’t. Simple! I can’t force you to learn about other perspectives and I wouldn’t even if I could!

they simply cannot identify a crucial fact that supports their position

Firstly, there really aren’t any flat earthers outside of the psyop and the useful idiots that fall for it. In any case, I’m a flat earth researcher - we study the psyop and related topics.

Secondly, what is a “crucial fact”? Can you provide an example?

like the observation of the "largely spherical" Earth from outer space

If it were YOUR observation it might be worth discussing, but personally I am more of a science lover. In science we don’t simply observe and declare, we measure and experiment! And as independent researchers/students we should never rely on unvalidated and unvalidateable claims for evidence (aka abject appeal to authority). There are very good reasons for keeping our discussion “down to earth” - the chief one being that the world, who’s shape we are discussing, is down here!

I am not interested in discourse with dishonest people.

Me neither! However, I have given you no reason to suspect dishonesty (and if I have, please cite a specific lie/falshood so I can meaningfully respond). I work very hard to be earnest and honest, and effective communication is very difficult and takes significant effort from all participants! Try not to rush to judgement if you can!