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There's no way Q could operate with plausible deniability while allowing a public execution of a traitor and announcing the reasons for his execution. It appears to be that the plan requires people's reputations to remain intact.

So this sort of demands a question, then.

What if the Plan successfully eliminates the Deep State’s influence and power, but never publicly vindicates you?

What if the Plan requires that Biden serve out his term uneventfully, Trump not to return to office, no public arrests or executions, and that Democrats might actually get elected, even to the Presidency?

But no more Satanists or child sacrificing. Nobody will ever know you were right, and you’ll never be able to prove it.

Is that a Plan that works for you?

The only reason the cabal is not pissing in the bathtub is because they believe they are winning, and they believe they'll be the owner of the bathtub at the end of the day so they should preserve it.

So, to be clear, literally every believer of Q is smarter than every Deep State operative by a high margin, correct?

The NSA has some of the most naturally-talented codebreakers who ever lived. The CIA has access to intelligence resources far beyond what anyone here can access from their laptop.

And none of these people can see the alleged inevitability of Q’s victory? None of them are smart enough to decode what you have?

I think that would be a profoundly arrogant assumption for anyone to make, and completely unworthy of the strategic brilliance Q is supposed to be representing. Always assume ANY messages you publicly send to your own people can be decoded, in context, by anyone else listening.

If the Plan relies on the Deep State being too stupid to do what the people on this site can do, I think that’s an uncomfortable level of naïveté, and definitely not the work of an experienced military operator.

“No (P)lan survives first contact with the enemy.”

A day is coming when the president of the US will be arrested. When most of the congress will be arrested. When some members of SCOTUS will be arrested.

For falsifiability, how do you plan to test whether or not this belief is incorrect?

Is there a specific date that the Plan MUST have happened by in order to make sense? If we reach the 2024 election, and Trump is just running again, and no mass arrests or Awakening is occurring in any obvious way, does that mean that the Plan hasn’t happened?

I just worry if the belief is “some day, this will happen,” then you have no way to know whether you’ve been fooled. You could wait for decades, and assume Q was just operating on a forty-year delta.

Every theory should have a way to prove it’s wrong. What would prove your belief in this reckoning by Q to be incorrect? Is it possible?

Take the average individual who heard someone speak about Q, but thinks they're crazy. Even they will understand what is happening on the day of arrests. They won't be speculating that it's a coup, instead they'll say to themselves "Oh, I guess that crazy relative was actually right".

Good! That means it’ll be loud, obvious, and falsifiable. And if that day comes, I have promised to be here and take my licks for it. It’ll be super easy for me to see I was proven wrong.

But if that day doesn’t come, it’s not going to be a big, loud event. It just won’t happen. The world will continue moving on without Q.

And again, if the day doesn’t come, how will you know? What’s the signal that the Plan isn’t occurring or isn’t real? It won’t be super easy for you to see if you’ve been proven wrong, certainly not as easy as it would be to prove me wrong.

You know the cabal exists, you just either think it's such a small problem that it's no big deal or haven't put 1+1 together to understand the full ramifications of what it means when laws are written by blackmailed congressmen, enforced by a blackmailed presidency and ruled to be just by a blackmailed SCOTUS.

Contrary to the accusations that are often thrown my way on this site, my view of how the world works is not more simplistic than Q’s perspective. In fact, I’d wager it’s more complicated, by far.

I don’t believe in one Cabal. I believe in thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of criminal organizations, many of which have nothing to do with each other, and some of them that traffic children.

Epstein was one. Just one. Of thousands.

And when Epstein was taken down, someone else probably took his place within the month. Someone who may not have even known Epstein, but who has some new source of trafficked children.

I don’t see crime a solvable problem. There will always be a demand for things people aren't supposed to have. want things they aren’t supposed to have. Drugs, illegal weapons, illegal sex, whatever. This is never going to change as long as people are capable of sin.

Q is not going to save people from sin. Q is not God. You can’t win a battle against evil as long as a single human is still alive. You can only refuse to lose until the end of humanity.

The glory isn’t in beating evil. It’s in fighting it anyway, even knowing you can’t even stamp it out completely.

I believe in bad people, and I believe that bad people sometimes work together to do bad things, and I absolutely believe that rich people and politicians have an easier time than most doing bad things without getting caught. I believe these people should not be allowed to do bad things unopposed.

We agree on these facts.

What I don’t yet believe is that there is a single unified Illuminati-like Cabal. I don’t yet believe that Satanism has anything to do with literally any of this. I simply don’t see the good guys and the bad guys being divided into two discrete sides.

Most importantly, I don’t think Donald Trump has any role in any such conflict. At all. I think he believes the election was stolen from him, but I don’t believe he has any Plan to rectify it, nor does he have anyone around him who can help, even if they agree.

And I absolutely don’t believe in any Plan that claims to achieve such a massive victory against a unified army of evil, but secretly, and with some degree of permanency that makes the “sacrifice” Trump made by leaving the White House worth it.

I think Trump is probably just watching the news like everyone else these days.

I have looked for Trump to talk about this Deep State in a context that doesn’t benefit him or shift blame away from him. I have looked for Trump to accuse a supporter of being Cabal. I have been looking for some reason to counter the argument that the DS is just a scapegoat for Trump, so that he doesn’t have to tell his supporters he fucked up or couldn’t make the deal or, in other words, lost a battle publicly.

I am open to being convinced, but if you’re correct, I won’t need to be convinced. I just need to wait until the day that the arrests start.

I have no reason not to wait for the next twenty years. What about you?

I really do appreciate the time you’re putting into this conversation. Even though I know my questioning style can seem combative, I am learning quite a bit about your perspective, which I am hoping is what we both want.

2 years ago
0 score
Reason: None provided.

There's no way Q could operate with plausible deniability while allowing a public execution of a traitor and announcing the reasons for his execution. It appears to be that the plan requires people's reputations to remain intact.

So this sort of demands a question, then.

What if the Plan successfully eliminates the Deep State’s influence and power, but never publicly vindicates you?

What if the Plan requires that Biden serve out his term uneventfully, Trump not to return to office, no public arrests or executions, and that Democrats might actually get elected, even to the Presidency?

But no more Satanists or child sacrificing. Nobody will ever know you were right, and you’ll never be able to prove it.

Is that a Plan that works for you?

The only reason the cabal is not pissing in the bathtub is because they believe they are winning, and they believe they'll be the owner of the bathtub at the end of the day so they should preserve it.

So, to be clear, literally every believer of Q is smarter than every Deep State operative by a high margin, correct?

The NSA has some of the most naturally-talented codebreakers who ever lived. The CIA has access to intelligence resources far beyond what anyone here can access from their laptop.

And none of these people can see the alleged inevitability of Q’s victory? None of them are smart enough to decode what you have?

I think that would be a profoundly arrogant assumption for anyone to make, and completely unworthy of the strategic brilliance Q is supposed to be representing. Always assume ANY messages you publicly send to your own people can be decoded, in context, by anyone else listening.

If the Plan relies on the Deep State being too stupid to do what the people on this site can do, I think that’s an uncomfortable level of naïveté, and definitely not the work of an experienced military operator.

“No (P)lan survives first contact with the enemy.”

A day is coming when the president of the US will be arrested. When most of the congress will be arrested. When some members of SCOTUS will be arrested.

For falsifiability, how do you plan to test whether or not this belief is incorrect?

Is there a specific date that the Plan MUST have happened by in order to make sense? If we reach the 2024 election, and Trump is just running again, and no mass arrests or Awakening is occurring in any obvious way, does that mean that the Plan hasn’t happened?

I just worry if the belief is “some day, this will happen,” then you have no way to know whether you’ve been fooled. You could wait for decades, and assume Q was just operating on a forty-year delta.

Every theory should have a way to prove it’s wrong. What would prove your belief in this reckoning by Q to be incorrect? Is it possible?

Take the average individual who heard someone speak about Q, but thinks they're crazy. Even they will understand what is happening on the day of arrests. They won't be speculating that it's a coup, instead they'll say to themselves "Oh, I guess that crazy relative was actually right".

Good! That means it’ll be loud, obvious, and falsifiable. And if that day comes, I have promised to be here and take my licks for it. It’ll be super easy for me to see I was proven wrong.

But if that day doesn’t come, it’s not going to be a big, loud event. It just won’t happen. The world will continue moving on without Q.

And again, if the day doesn’t come, how will you know? What’s the signal that the Plan isn’t occurring or isn’t real? It won’t be super easy for you to see if you’ve been proven wrong, certainly not as easy as it would be to prove me wrong.

You know the cabal exists, you just either think it's such a small problem that it's no big deal or haven't put 1+1 together to understand the full ramifications of what it means when laws are written by blackmailed congressmen, enforced by a blackmailed presidency and ruled to be just by a blackmailed SCOTUS.

Contrary to the accusations that are often thrown my way on this site, my view of how the world works is not more simplistic than Q’s perspective. In fact, I’d wager it’s more complicated, by far.

I don’t believe in one Cabal. I believe in thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of criminal organizations, many of which have nothing to do with each other, and some of them that traffic children.

Epstein was one. Just one. Of thousands.

And when Epstein was taken down, someone else probably took his place within the month. Someone who may not have even known Epstein, but who has some new source of trafficked children.

I don’t see crime a solvable problem. There will always be a demand for things people aren't supposed to have. want things they aren’t supposed to have. Drugs, illegal weapons, illegal sex, whatever. This is never going to change as long as people are capable of sin.

Q is not going to save people from sin. Q is not God. You can’t win a battle against evil. You can only refuse to lose until the end of humanity.

The glory isn’t in beating evil. It’s in fighting it anyway, even knowing you can’t even stamp it out completely.

I believe in bad people, and I believe that bad people sometimes work together to do bad things, and I absolutely believe that rich people and politicians have an easier time than most doing bad things without getting caught. I believe these people should not be allowed to do bad things unopposed.

We agree on these facts.

What I don’t yet believe is that there is a single unified Illuminati-like Cabal. I don’t yet believe that Satanism has anything to do with literally any of this. I simply don’t see the good guys and the bad guys being divided into two discrete sides.

Most importantly, I don’t think Donald Trump has any role in any such conflict. At all. I think he believes the election was stolen from him, but I don’t believe he has any Plan to rectify it, nor does he have anyone around him who can help, even if they agree.

And I absolutely don’t believe in any Plan that claims to achieve such a massive victory against a unified army of evil, but secretly, and with some degree of permanency that makes the “sacrifice” Trump made by leaving the White House worth it.

I think Trump is probably just watching the news like everyone else these days.

I have looked for Trump to talk about this Deep State in a context that doesn’t benefit him or shift blame away from him. I have looked for Trump to accuse a supporter of being Cabal. I have been looking for some reason to counter the argument that the DS is just a scapegoat for Trump, so that he doesn’t have to tell his supporters he fucked up or couldn’t make the deal or, in other words, lost a battle publicly.

I am open to being convinced, but if you’re correct, I won’t need to be convinced. I just need to wait until the day that the arrests start.

I have no reason not to wait for the next twenty years. What about you?

I really do appreciate the time you’re putting into this conversation. Even though I know my questioning style can seem combative, I am learning quite a bit about your perspective, which I am hoping is what we both want.

2 years ago
0 score
Reason: None provided.

There's no way Q could operate with plausible deniability while allowing a public execution of a traitor and announcing the reasons for his execution. It appears to be that the plan requires people's reputations to remain intact.

So this sort of demands a question, then.

What if the Plan successfully eliminates the Deep State’s influence and power, but never publicly vindicates you?

What if the Plan requires that Biden serve out his term uneventfully, Trump not to return to office, no public arrests or executions, and that Democrats might actually get elected, even to the Presidency?

But no more Satanists or child sacrificing. Nobody will ever know you were right, and you’ll never be able to prove it.

Is that a Plan that works for you?

The only reason the cabal is not pissing in the bathtub is because they believe they are winning, and they believe they'll be the owner of the bathtub at the end of the day so they should preserve it.

So, to be clear, literally every believer of Q is smarter than every Deep State operative by a high margin, correct?

The NSA has some of the most naturally-talented codebreakers who ever lived. The CIA has access to intelligence resources far beyond what anyone here can access from their laptop.

And none of these people can see the alleged inevitability of Q’s victory? None of them are smart enough to decode what you have?

I think that would be a profoundly arrogant assumption for anyone to make, and completely unworthy of the strategic brilliance Q is supposed to be representing. Always assume ANY messages you publicly send to your own people can be decoded, in context, by anyone else listening.

If the Plan relies on the Deep State being too stupid to do what the people on this site can do, I think that’s an uncomfortable level of naïveté, and definitely not the work of an experienced military operator.

“No (P)lan survives first contact with the enemy.”

A day is coming when the president of the US will be arrested. When most of the congress will be arrested. When some members of SCOTUS will be arrested.

For falsifiability, how do you plan to test whether or not this belief is incorrect?

Is there a specific date that the Plan MUST have happened by in order to make sense? If we reach the 2024 election, and Trump is just running again, and no mass arrests or Awakening is occurring in any obvious way, does that mean that the Plan hasn’t happened?

I just worry if the belief is “some day, this will happen,” then you have no way to know whether you’ve been fooled. You could wait for decades, and assume Q was just operating on a forty-year delta.

Every theory should have a way to prove it’s wrong. What would prove your belief in this reckoning by Q to be incorrect? Is it possible?

Take the average individual who heard someone speak about Q, but thinks they're crazy. Even they will understand what is happening on the day of arrests. They won't be speculating that it's a coup, instead they'll say to themselves "Oh, I guess that crazy relative was actually right".

Good! That means it’ll be loud, obvious, and falsifiable. And if that day comes, I have promised to be here and take my licks for it. It’ll be super easy for me to see I was proven wrong.

But if that day doesn’t come, it’s not going to be a big, loud event. It just won’t happen. The world will continue moving on without Q.

And again, if the day doesn’t come, how will you know? What’s the signal that the Plan isn’t occurring or isn’t real? It won’t be super easy for you to see if you’ve been proven wrong, certainly not as easy as it would be to prove me wrong.

You know the cabal exists, you just either think it's such a small problem that it's no big deal or haven't put 1+1 together to understand the full ramifications of what it means when laws are written by blackmailed congressmen, enforced by a blackmailed presidency and ruled to be just by a blackmailed SCOTUS.

Contrary to the accusations that are often thrown my way on this site, my view of how the world works is not more simplistic than Q’s perspective. In fact, I’d wager it’s more complicated, by far.

I don’t believe in one Cabal. I believe in thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of criminal organizations, many of which have nothing to do with each other, and some of them that traffic children.

Epstein was one. Just one. Of thousands.

And when Epstein was taken down, someone else probably took his place within the month. Someone who may not have even known Epstein, but who has some new source of trafficked children.

I don’t see crime a solvable problem. People want things they aren’t supposed to have. Drugs, illegal weapons, illega sex, whatever. This is never going to change as long as people are capable of sin.

Q is not going to save people from sin. Q is not God. You can’t win a battle against evil. You can only refuse to lose until the end of humanity.

I believe in bad people, and I believe that bad people sometimes work together to do bad things, and I absolutely believe that rich people and politicians have an easier time than most doing bad things without getting caught. I believe these people should not be allowed to do bad things unopposed.

We agree on these facts.

What I don’t yet believe is that there is a single unified Illuminati-like Cabal. I don’t yet believe that Satanism has anything to do with literally any of this. I simply don’t see the good guys and the bad guys being divided into two discrete sides.

Most importantly, I don’t think Donald Trump has any role in any such conflict. At all. I think he believes the election was stolen from him, but I don’t believe he has any Plan to rectify it, nor does he have anyone around him who can help, even if they agree.

And I absolutely don’t believe in any Plan that claims to achieve such a massive victory against a unified army of evil, but secretly, and with some degree of permanency that makes the “sacrifice” Trump made by leaving the White House worth it.

I think Trump is probably just watching the news like everyone else these days.

I have looked for Trump to talk about this Deep State in a context that doesn’t benefit him or shift blame away from him. I have looked for Trump to accuse a supporter of being Cabal. I have been looking for some reason to counter the argument that the DS is just a scapegoat for Trump, so that he doesn’t have to tell his supporters he fucked up or couldn’t make the deal or, in other words, lost a battle publicly.

I am open to being convinced, but if you’re correct, I won’t need to be convinced. I just need to wait until the day that the arrests start.

I have no reason not to wait for the next twenty years. What about you?

I really do appreciate the time you’re putting into this conversation. Even though I know my questioning style can seem combative, I am learning quite a bit about your perspective, which I am hoping is what we both want.

2 years ago
0 score
Reason: None provided.

There's no way Q could operate with plausible deniability while allowing a public execution of a traitor and announcing the reasons for his execution. It appears to be that the plan requires people's reputations to remain intact.

So this sort of demands a question, then.

What if the Plan successfully eliminates the Deep State’s influence and power, but never publicly vindicates you?

What if the Plan requires that Biden serve out his term uneventfully, Trump not to return to office, no public arrests or executions, and that Democrats might actually get elected, even to the Presidency?

But no more Satanists or child sacrificing. Nobody will ever know you were right, and you’ll never be able to prove it.

Is that a Plan that works for you?

The only reason the cabal is not pissing in the bathtub is because they believe they are winning, and they believe they'll be the owner of the bathtub at the end of the day so they should preserve it.

So, to be clear, literally every believer of Q is smarter than every Deep State operative by a high margin, correct?

The NSA has some of the most naturally-talented codebreakers who ever lived. The CIA has access to intelligence resources far beyond what anyone here can access from their laptop.

And none of these people can see the alleged inevitability of Q’s victory? None of them are smart enough to decode what you have?

I think that would be a profoundly arrogant assumption for anyone to make, and completely unworthy of the strategic brilliance Q is supposed to be representing. Always assume ANY messages you publicly send to your own people can be decoded, in context, by anyone else listening.

If the Plan relies on the Deep State being too stupid to do what the people on this site can do, I think that’s an uncomfortable level of naïveté, and definitely not the work of an experienced military operator.

“No (P)lan survives first contact with the enemy.”

A day is coming when the president of the US will be arrested. When most of the congress will be arrested. When some members of SCOTUS will be arrested.

For falsifiability, how do you plan to test whether or not this belief is incorrect?

Is there a specific date that the Plan MUST have happened by in order to make sense? If we reach the 2024 election, and Trump is just running again, and no mass arrests or Awakening is occurring in any obvious way, does that mean that the Plan hasn’t happened?

I just worry if the belief is “some day, this will happen,” then you have no way to know whether you’ve been fooled. You could wait for decades, and assume Q was just operating on a forty-year delta.

Every theory should have a way to prove it’s wrong. What would prove your belief in this reckoning by Q to be incorrect? Is it possible?

Take the average individual who heard someone speak about Q, but thinks they're crazy. Even they will understand what is happening on the day of arrests. They won't be speculating that it's a coup, instead they'll say to themselves "Oh, I guess that crazy relative was actually right".

Good! That means it’ll be loud, obvious, and falsifiable. And if that day comes, I have promised to be here and take my licks for it. It’ll be super easy for me to see I was proven wrong.

But if that day doesn’t come, it’s not going to be a big, loud event. It just won’t happen. The world will continue moving on without Q.

And again, if the day doesn’t come, how will you know? What’s the signal that the Plan isn’t occurring or isn’t real? It won’t be super easy for you to see if you’ve been proven wrong, certainly not as easy as it would be to prove me wrong.

You know the cabal exists, you just either think it's such a small problem that it's no big deal or haven't put 1+1 together to understand the full ramifications of what it means when laws are written by blackmailed congressmen, enforced by a blackmailed presidency and ruled to be just by a blackmailed SCOTUS.

Contrary to the accusations that are often thrown my way on this site, my view of how the world works is not more simplistic than Q’s perspective. In fact, I’d wager it’s more complicated, by far.

I don’t believe in one Cabal. I believe in thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of criminal organizations, many of which have nothing to do with each other, and some of them that traffic children.

Epstein was one. Just one. Of thousands.

And when Epstein was taken down, someone else probably took his place within the month. Someone who may not have even known Epstein, but who has some new source of trafficked children.

I don’t see crime a solvable problem. People want things they aren’t supposed to have. Drugs, illegal weapons, illega sex, whatever. This is never going to change as long as people are capable of sin.

Q is not going to save people from sin. Q is not God. You can’t win a battle against evil. You can only refuse to lose until the end of humanity.

I believe in bad people, and I believe that bad people sometimes work together to do bad things, and I absolutely believe that rich people and politicians have an easier time than most doing bad things without getting caught. I believe these people should not be allowed to do bad things unopposed.

We agree on these facts.

What I don’t yet believe is that there is a single unified Illuminati-like Cabal. I don’t yet believe that Satanism has anything to do with literally any of this. I simply don’t see the good guys and the bad guys being divided into two discrete sides.

Most importantly, I don’t think Donald Trump has any role in any such conflict. At all. I think he believes the election was stolen from him, but I don’t believe he has any Plan to rectify it, nor does he have anyone around him who can help, even if they agree.

I have looked for Trump to talk about this Deep State in a context that doesn’t benefit him or shift blame away from him. I have looked for Trump to accuse a supporter of being Cabal. I have been looking for some reason to counter the argument that the DS is just a scapegoat for Trump, so that he doesn’t have to tell his supporters he fucked up or couldn’t make the deal or, in other words, lost a battle publicly.

I am open to being convinced, but if you’re correct, I won’t need to be convinced. I just need to wait until the day that the arrests start.

I have no reason not to wait for the next twenty years. What about you?

I really do appreciate the time you’re putting into this conversation. Even though I know my questioning style can seem combative, I am learning quite a bit about your perspective, which I am hoping is what we both want.

2 years ago
0 score
Reason: None provided.

There's no way Q could operate with plausible deniability while allowing a public execution of a traitor and announcing the reasons for his execution. It appears to be that the plan requires people's reputations to remain intact.

So this sort of demands a question, then.

What if the Plan successfully eliminates the Deep State’s influence and power, but never publicly vindicates you?

What if the Plan requires that Biden serve out his term uneventfully, Trump not to return to office, no public arrests or executions, and that Democrats might actually get elected, even to the Presidency?

But no more Satanists or child sacrificing. Nobody will ever know you were right, and you’ll never be able to prove it.

Is that a Plan that works for you?

The only reason the cabal is not pissing in the bathtub is because they believe they are winning, and they believe they'll be the owner of the bathtub at the end of the day so they should preserve it.

So, to be clear, literally every believer of Q is smarter than every Deep State operative by a high margin, correct?

The NSA has some of the most naturally-talented codebreakers who ever lived. The CIA has access to intelligence resources far beyond what anyone here can access from their laptop.

And none of these people can see the alleged inevitability of Q’s victory? None of them are smart enough to decode what you have?

I think that would be a profoundly arrogant assumption for anyone to make, and completely unworthy of the strategic brilliance Q is supposed to be representing. Always assume ANY messages you publicly send to your own people can be decoded, in context, by anyone else listening.

If the Plan relies on the Deep State being too stupid to do what the people on this site can do, I think that’s an uncomfortable level of naïveté, and definitely not the work of an experienced military operator.

“No (P)lan survives first contact with the enemy.”

A day is coming when the president of the US will be arrested. When most of the congress will be arrested. When some members of SCOTUS will be arrested.

For falsifiability, how do you plan to test whether or not this belief is incorrect?

Is there a specific date that the Plan MUST have happened by in order to make sense? If we reach the 2024 election, and Trump is just running again, and no mass arrests or Awakening is occurring in any obvious way, does that mean that the Plan hasn’t happened?

I just worry if the belief is “some day, this will happen,” then you have no way to know whether you’ve been fooled. You could wait for decades, and assume Q was just operating on a forty-year delta.

Every theory should have a way to prove it’s wrong. What would prove your belief in this reckoning by Q to be incorrect? Is it possible?

Take the average individual who heard someone speak about Q, but thinks they're crazy. Even they will understand what is happening on the day of arrests. They won't be speculating that it's a coup, instead they'll say to themselves "Oh, I guess that crazy relative was actually right".

Good! That means it’ll be loud, obvious, and falsifiable. And if that day comes, I have promised to be here and take my licks for it. It’ll be super easy for me to see I was proven wrong.

But if that day doesn’t come, it’s not going to be a big, loud event. It just won’t happen. The world will continue moving on without Q.

And again, if the day doesn’t come, how will you know? What’s the signal that the Plan isn’t occurring or isn’t real? It won’t be super easy for you to see if you’ve been proven wrong, certainly not as easy as it would be to prove me wrong.

You know the cabal exists, you just either think it's such a small problem that it's no big deal or haven't put 1+1 together to understand the full ramifications of what it means when laws are written by blackmailed congressmen, enforced by a blackmailed presidency and ruled to be just by a blackmailed SCOTUS.

Contrary to the accusations that are often thrown my way on this site, my view of how the world works is not more simplistic than Q’s perspective. In fact, I’d wager it’s more complicated, by far.

I don’t believe in one Cabal. I believe in thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of criminal organizations, many of which have nothing to do with each other, and some of them that traffic children.

Epstein was one. Just one. Of thousands.

And when Epstein was taken down, someone else probably took his place within the month. Someone who may not have even known Epstein, but who has some new source of trafficked children.

I don’t see crime a solvable problem. People want things they aren’t supposed to have. Drugs, illegal weapons, illega sex, whatever. This is never going to change as long as people are capable of sin.

Q is not going to save people from sin. Q is not God. You can’t win a battle against evil. You can only refuse to lose until the end of humanity.

I believe in bad people, and I believe that bad people sometimes work together to do bad things, and I absolutely believe that rich people and politicians have an easier time than most doing bad things without getting caught. I believe these people should not be allowed to do bad things unopposed.

We agree on these facts.

What I don’t yet believe is that there is a single unified Illuminati-like Cabal. I don’t yet believe that Satanism has anything to do with literally any of this. I simply don’t see the good guys and the bad guys being divided into two discrete sides.

Most importantly, I don’t think Donald Trump has any role in any such conflict. At all. I think he believes the election was stolen from him, but I don’t believe he has any Plan to rectify it, nor does he have anyone around him who can help, even if they agree.

I am open to being convinced, but if you’re correct, I won’t need to be convinced. I just need to wait until the day that the arrests start.

I have no reason not to wait for the next twenty years. What about you?

I really do appreciate the time you’re putting into this conversation. Even though I know my questioning style can seem combative, I am learning quite a bit about your perspective, which I am hoping is what we both want.

2 years ago
1 score
Reason: Original

There's no way Q could operate with plausible deniability while allowing a public execution of a traitor and announcing the reasons for his execution. It appears to be that the plan requires people's reputations to remain intact.

So this sort of demands a question, then.

What if the Plan successfully eliminates the Deep State’s influence and power, but never publicly vindicates you?

What if the Plan requires that Biden serve out his term uneventfully, Trump not to return to office, no public arrests or executions, and that Democrats might actually get elected, even to the Presidency?

But no more Satanists or child sacrificing. Nobody will ever know you were right, and you’ll never be able to prove it.

Is that a Plan that works for you?

The only reason the cabal is not pissing in the bathtub is because they believe they are winning, and they believe they'll be the owner of the bathtub at the end of the day so they should preserve it.

So, to be clear, literally every believer of Q is smarter than every Deep State operative by a high margin, correct?

The NSA has some of the most naturally-talented codebreakers who ever lived. The CIA has access to intelligence resources far beyond what anyone here can access from their laptop.

And none of these people can see the alleged inevitability of Q’s victory? None of them are smart enough to decode what you have?

I think that would be a profoundly arrogant assumption for anyone to make, and completely unworthy of the strategic brilliance Q is supposed to be representing. Always assume ANY messages you publicly send to your own people can be decoded, in context, by anyone else listening.

If the Plan relies on the Deep State being too stupid to do what the people on this site can do, I think that’s an uncomfortable level of naïveté, and definitely not the work of an experienced military operator.

“No (P)lan survives first contact with the enemy.”

A day is coming when the president of the US will be arrested. When most of the congress will be arrested. When some members of SCOTUS will be arrested.

For falsifiability, how do you plan to test whether or not this belief is incorrect?

Is there a specific date that the Plan MUST have happened by in order to make sense? If we reach the 2024 election, and Trump is just running again, and no mass arrests or Awakening is occurring in any obvious way, does that mean that the Plan hasn’t happened?

I just worry if the belief is “some day, this will happen,” then you have no way to know whether you’ve been fooled. You could wait for decades, and assume Q was just operating on a forty-year delta.

Every theory should have a way to prove it’s wrong. What would prove your belief in this reckoning by Q to be incorrect? Is it possible?

Take the average individual who heard someone speak about Q, but thinks they're crazy. Even they will understand what is happening on the day of arrests. They won't be speculating that it's a coup, instead they'll say to themselves "Oh, I guess that crazy relative was actually right".

Good! That means it’ll be loud, obvious, and falsifiable. And if that day comes, I have promised to be here and take my licks for it. It’ll be super easy for me to see I was proven wrong.

But if that day doesn’t come, it’s not going to be a big, loud event. It just won’t happen. The world will continue moving on without Q.

And again, if the day doesn’t come, how will you know? What’s the signal that the Plan isn’t occurring or isn’t real? It won’t be super easy for you to see if you’ve been proven wrong, certainly not as easy as it would be to prove me wrong.

You know the cabal exists, you just either think it's such a small problem that it's no big deal or haven't put 1+1 together to understand the full ramifications of what it means when laws are written by blackmailed congressmen, enforced by a blackmailed presidency and ruled to be just by a blackmailed SCOTUS.

Contrary to the accusations that are often thrown my way on this site, my view of how the world works is not more simplistic than Q’s perspective. In fact, I’d wager it’s more complicated, by far.

I don’t believe in one Cabal. I believe in thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of criminal organizations, many of which have nothing to do with each other, and some of them that traffic children.

Epstein was one. Just one. Of thousands.

And when Epstein was taken down, someone else probably took his place within the month. Someone who may not have even known Epstein, but who has some new source of trafficked children.

I don’t see crime a solvable problem. People want things they aren’t supposed to have. Drugs, illegal weapons, illega sex, whatever. This is never going to change as long as people are capable of sin.

Q is not going to save people from sin. Q is not God.

I believe in bad people, and I believe that bad people sometimes work together to do bad things, and I absolutely believe that rich people and politicians have an easier time than most doing bad things without getting caught. I believe these people should not be allowed to do bad things unopposed.

We agree on these facts.

What I don’t yet believe is that there is a single unified Illuminati-like Cabal. I don’t yet believe that Satanism has anything to do with literally any of this. I simply don’t see the good guys and the bad guys being divided into two discrete sides.

Most importantly, I don’t think Donald Trump has any role in any such conflict. At all. I think he believes the election was stolen from him, but I don’t believe he has any Plan to rectify it, nor does he have anyone around him who can help, even if they agree.

I am open to being convinced, but if you’re correct, I won’t need to be convinced. I just need to wait until the day that the arrests start.

I have no reason not to wait for the next twenty years. What about you?

I really do appreciate the time you’re putting into this conversation. Even though I know my questioning style can seem combative, I am learning quite a bit about your perspective, which I am hoping is what we both want.

2 years ago
1 score