The round earth model is self-consistent. Every question you ask about it, every confusion you have with it, every observation you make with your own eyes, can be answered within the framework of this theory.

Read your own sentence back to yourself. You are are operating in the realm of mental abstractions (models, theory and frameworks). None are based in reality, they are all purely thought. It is a fascinating exercise to see how easily humans can delude themselves by thought alone however...but that's a discussion for another time.

For example, here you introduce the idea that light does not travel in an approximately straight line from its source.

I said nothing of the sort. You invented that idea in your mind. See how this works? Mental capture. You aren't seeing clearly, you are lost in THINKING.

On another note, I happen to believe that light does not "TRAVEL" at all. Yet another lie brought to you by the heliocentric deceivers. But that's too much to get into here. Go find yourself the scientific experiment that proves "the speed of light" and get back to me on what you find (even the V-Sauce video contains ASSUMPTIONS BTW). I'll wait.

“atmospheric lensing”, you say. In other words, “you can’t trust your own eyes.” Am I hearing this correctly?

No, you're not. You are INTERPRETING my words in a convoluted way that is highly bizarre. The atmosPLANE contains water - sometimes enormous amounts (high humidity) - amongst other things. There are dozens of examples of how looking at something through water is distorted. Pick any.

Why does “atmospheric lensing” not apply to objects we send high into the air, but it happens to only affect light from celestial objects in such a way that it perfectly imitates the round earth model?

This sentence makes even last sense than the previous two. No idea what you're thinking here.

Give me some equations for your theory. Let’s make some measurable predictions. Unless you’re too scared that the truth will upset your worldview?

Here's one of yours. And the beauty is, you don't have to take my word for it, nor anybody else's. Your globe curvature is supposed to fall away at 8 inches per mile squared. Your 3950 mile radius DEMANDS this must be true. And yet, we can see things through telephoto lenses that should be hidden by the alleged curvature. This is precisely something we can "MEASURE and make predictions with". And the heliocentric model is IRREFUTABLY PROVEN false with just this...tests you can do yourself.

Your equation is IRREFUTABLY INCORRECT. And you can go out and prove it to yourself instead of staying lost in mental abstractions.

Here's a video demonstrating a dozen or so examples for your viewing pleasure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQoz9aiNRzU&t=608s

Where does that leave us? NASA are the honest heroes none of us deserve and all flat earther's are a bunch of lying, deceiving morons with incredible photoshop and video production skills? Or vice versa?

It's one or the other. We can agree on one thing. Somebody is lying.... BIGLY. I've bet the farm that the gang who runs the Fed, ConVid-1984, vaccines, FDA, CIA, CDC, FBI, CNN, Fox, Harvard, Stanford, MIT, etc.....and...oh yeah... NASA.... are all on the same team.... are our PROVEN {Time and time again} LIARS. As they say, birds of a feather.

If you're on this board, surely you agree with me on most of those on the list as being anything but honest brokers, but you've got to make an exception for NASA and the universities. As I see it, that puts you in an awkward, if not untenable position that's hard to defend from my POV.

The round earth model is self-consistent. Every question you ask about it, every confusion you have with it, every observation you make with your own eyes, can be answered within the framework of this theory.

Read your own sentence back to yourself. You are are operating in the realm of mental abstractions (models, theory and frameworks). None are based in reality, they are all purely thought. It is a fascinating exercise to see how easily humans can delude themselves by thought alone however...but that's a discussion for another time.

For example, here you introduce the idea that light does not travel in an approximately straight line from its source.

I said nothing of the sort. You invented that idea in your mind. See how this works? Mental capture. You aren't seeing clearly, you are lost in THINKING.

On another note, I happen to believe that light does not "TRAVEL" at all. Yet another lie brought to you by the heliocentric deceivers. But that's too much to get into here. Go find yourself the scientific experiment that proves "the speed of light" and get back to me on what you find (even the V-Sauce video contains ASSUMPTIONS BTW). I'll wait.

“atmospheric lensing”, you say. In other words, “you can’t trust your own eyes.” Am I hearing this correctly?

No, you're not. You are INTERPRETING my words in a convoluted way that is highly bizarre. The atmosPLANE contains water - sometimes enormous amounts (high humidity) - amongst other things. There are dozens of examples of how looking at something through water is distorted. Pick any.

Why does “atmospheric lensing” not apply to objects we send high into the air, but it happens to only affect light from celestial objects in such a way that it perfectly imitates the round earth model?

This sentence makes even last sense than the previous two. No idea what you're thinking here.

Give me some equations for your theory. Let’s make some measurable predictions. Unless you’re too scared that the truth will upset your worldview?

Here's one of yours. And the beauty is, you don't have to take my word for it, nor anybody else. Your globe curvature is supposed to fall away at 8 inches per mile squared. Your 3950 mile radius DEMANDS this must be true. And yet, we can see things through telephoto lenses that should be hidden by the alleged curvature. This is something we can MEASURE and make predictions with.

Your equation is IRREFUTABLE INCORRECT. And you can go out and prove it to yourself instead of staying lost in mental abstractions.

Here's a video demonstrating a dozen or so examples for your viewing pleasure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQoz9aiNRzU&t=608s

Where does that leave us? NASA are the honest heroes none of us deserve and all flat earther's are a bunch of lying, deceiving morons with incredible photoshop and video production skills? Or vice versa?

It's one or the other. We can agree on one thing. Somebody is lying.... BIGLY. I've bet the farm that the gang who runs the Fed, ConVid-1984, vaccines, FDA, CIA, CDC, FBI, CNN, Fox, Harvard, Stanford, MIT, etc.....and...oh yeah... NASA.... are all on the same team.... are these are our PROVEN LIARS. As they say, birds of a feather.

If you're on this board, surely you agree with me on most of those on the list, but you've got to make an exception for NASA and the universities. As I see it, that puts you in an awkward, if not untenable position that's hard to defend from my POV.