You quote an opinion that you agree with. And you hold that up as proof. "The concensus is".
Again, you're showing you have no idea what a semantic argument is.
The ONLY way to solve a semantic argument is to refer to consensus.
"What does this word mean!?"
Since the meaning of words are of men, we must refer to men in a collective.
Show me anywhere in scripture where "to know", yada, is meant, in a sexual context, to mean anything other than sex between a man and a woman [resulting in progeny].
I've already linked that!
RIGHT FUCKING HERE! In the notes of authentic Bible issues.
https://biblehub.com/commentaries/genesis/19-5.htm
You just DON'T READ, do you!?
Here, let me post every line, one at a time, so you can't spew your bullshit anymore.
Bring them out unto us, that we may know them. The sin here euphemistically referred to (cf. Judges 19:22) was exceedingly prevalent among the Canaanites (Leviticus 18:22) and other heathen nations (Romans 1:27). Under the law of Moses it was punishable by death. Genesis 19:5
with the basest violation of the sacred rite of hospitality and the most shameless proclamation of their sin (Isaiah 3:9), that the strangers should be brought out, that they might know them. ידע is applied, as in Judges 19:22, to the carnal sin of paederastia, a crime very prevalent among the Canaanites (Leviticus 18:22., Leviticus 20:23), and according to Romans 1:27, a curse of heathenism generally.
As lawful copulation with a man's wife is modestly expressed by knowing her, Genesis 4:1; so this unlawful and shocking copulation of man with man is expressed by this phrase; and that this was their meaning is plain from Lot's answer to them, Genesis 19:8.
It is grievous error to twist and distort yada in this context to simply mean SEX. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
You keep shifting the burden of proof onto me after I've offered up TONS of references supporting my claim. It's not an unpopular claim. It's the default in the vast majority of sects. It's not even open to debate, really.
- It was the most unnatural and abominable wickedness that they were now set upon, a sin that still bears their name, and is called Sodomy. https://www.blueletterbible.org/Comm/mhc/Gen/Gen_019.cfm
Everyone agrees. This is factually where the term Sodomy is most associated with the city of Sodom.
You're so dishonest...
You quote an opinion that you agree with. And you hold that up as proof. "The concensus is".
Again, you're showing you have no idea what a semantic argument is.
The ONLY way to solve a semantic argument is to refer to consensus.
"What does this word mean!?"
Since the meaning of words are of men, we must refer to men in a collective.
Show me anywhere in scripture where "to know", yada, is meant, in a sexual context, to mean anything other than sex between a man and a woman [resulting in progeny].
I've already linked that!
RIGHT FUCKING HERE! In the notes of authentic Bible issues.
https://biblehub.com/commentaries/genesis/19-5.htm
You just DON'T READ, do you!?
Here, let me post every line, one at a time, so you can't spew your bullshit anymore.
Bring them out unto us, that we may know them. The sin here euphemistically referred to (cf. Judges 19:22) was exceedingly prevalent among the Canaanites (Leviticus 18:22) and other heathen nations (Romans 1:27). Under the law of Moses it was punishable by death. Genesis 19:5
with the basest violation of the sacred rite of hospitality and the most shameless proclamation of their sin (Isaiah 3:9), that the strangers should be brought out, that they might know them. ידע is applied, as in Judges 19:22, to the carnal sin of paederastia, a crime very prevalent among the Canaanites (Leviticus 18:22., Leviticus 20:23), and according to Romans 1:27, a curse of heathenism generally.
As lawful copulation with a man's wife is modestly expressed by knowing her, Genesis 4:1; so this unlawful and shocking copulation of man with man is expressed by this phrase; and that this was their meaning is plain from Lot's answer to them, Genesis 19:8.
It is grievous error to twist and distort yada in this context to simply mean SEX. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
You keep shifting the burden of proof onto me after I've offered up TONS of references supporting my claim. It's not an unpopular claim. It's the default in the vast majority of sects. It's not even open to debate, really.
- It was the most unnatural and abominable wickedness that they were now set upon, a sin that still bears their name, and is called Sodomy.
Everyone agrees. This is factually where the term Sodomy is most associated with the city of Sodom.
You're so dishonest...