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"I'm not sure if my question was answered. It however doesn't sound like a DoJ Memorandum is the place a gag order due to the State's secrecy act can be lifted."

You are correct both technically and substantively. The DOJ memorandum only provides the judge (in this instance) with an informed opinion that a judge (since this is not the judge that promulgated the order in the first place) could use in making a decision (which has not been made to date) to lift or maintain the protective order currently in place.

The real back story here is not clear and is not clear on purpose. This rabbit hole

https://dennismontgomery.com/

lets you know what Dennis Montgomery knows is the real reason the gag order is still in effect. Scroll down and read the section that is titled Whistleblower Efforts, and after reading that section consider the following additional information.

The original protective order was issued based on the declaration to the judge in the 2007 court case (Montgomery v eTreppid Technologies) based on the declaration of then Director of National Intelligence John L. Negroponte, which you can read (and I recommend you read because there is simply no better way to comprehend what is really going on until you can parse the real from the spin on this issue) in the document linked below, beginning on page 96.

This is Dennis Montgomery's Declaration, attached to Mike Lindell's motion to intervene in the Montgomery v. eTreppid case in order to have the protective order lifted.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nvd.46642/gov.uscourts.nvd.46642.1216.2_2.pdf ( go to page 96 for DNI declaration)

However, there was a second presentation of secret information to the original judge in the case in 2007, the presentation was in camera (shown to the judge only by representatives of the US government) during which the judge was briefed and shown documentation not on the record nor to which either attorneys or plaintiff and defendant were shown. Now the judge is being asked to take the DoJs word 15 years later, without benefit of knowing now what the judge in 2007 knew, particularly since there is no record of the actual second secret presentation of the information provided the 2007 judge (maybe the documents could be produced again - but not record of the actual presentation, and that is problematic for the current judge).

Your next question...

"So, how can the Montgomery gag order be lifted by the DoJ?"

Gets to the spin Mike Lindell is putting on the DoJ memorandum.

Riddle me this, Batman. If the DoJ could lift the gag order, why would they have had to go a judge in the first place to have a gag order imposed?

What should be becoming clear is that nothing about this gag order business is what it appears to be.

Lots of smoke and lots of mirrors.

The original case that all of this came out of was based on the unsuccessful attempt by Montgomery's then business partner, a guy named Trepp (hence eTreppid - a play on the word intrepid) to gain control of all of Montgomery's proprietary software when Montgomery first balked when he found out what the government was really doing with his collection, exploitation and analysis software and systems.

When Trepp, afraid Montgomery was going to break his (Trepp's) rice-bowl of government contracts, and that he (Trepp) could not buy out Montgomery, he (Trepp) brought a lawsuit to try and force the issue and get the technology through the courts. Montgomery counter-sued, the Trepp v Montgomery case was joined with the Montgomery v eTreppid counter-suit, and that's why we are referring back to Montgomery v eTreppid and not eTreppid v Montgomery.

Now there are lots of slimy corrupt strings Trepp pulled in and out of court to put pressure on Montgomery, but one of the worst was being able to get Nevada state and local officials to use the FBI to front a raid on Montgomery's home in order to try and find and seize the really core and most valuable of the source code for various software applications.

Montgomery was able to prove that the FBI raid was based on lies and misrepresentations about who owned what by the original contracts of incorporation. Montgomery gave as good as he got and leaked a lot of "receipts" to the press in Nevada to push back on the outside political pressure that was coming to bear. The last guy you want to try and jack-up is the one-eyed guy who writes the source code for all the braille enabled computers in the land of the blind. Montgomery was able to get the judge to order the [FBI] to return everything they had taken in the illegal raid (they never got the important stuff in the first place) but they still have not returned everything seized in 2007 to this day.

Sound familiar?

Is this movie playing at your local theater?

Its called "Mar-a-Lago".

However, the protective order issued in connection with the 2007 case was never lifted (bad lawyering) and in 2010, the government showed up at a Montgomery bankruptcy proceeding (don't ask - but this is all smoke and mirrors too, having to do with how the 2007 case was settled and how Montgomery was protecting assets from ambulance-chasing vulture-identifying thug lawyers) and invoked the protective order stating Montgomery was still barred from revealing issues covered under the 2007 order.

There were some immunity negotiations in 2014 that is the next chapter / scene of this saga, in which Montgomery was allowed to give testimony as a whistleblower to Senate Intelligence Committee staff in exchange for finally turning over copies of the source code to the [FBI] that they had been after all along (insert here the backstory subplot of who, originally working through Trepp back in 2007, besides the [FBI], was working with Trepp to get all the good source code - told by a chain smoking nondescript heavily-wrinkled man of medium height and build and of no certain age in a faded grey suit). Somewhat beyond the scope of your question but it is a crucial part of the narrative as you will read later.

In June (I believe it was June) of 2021 Montgomery approached a court in Virginia where he had filed suit in 2017 against about anybody who was anybody in the Intelligence Community over alleged illegal spying on American citizens and government officials on a mass scale. See link below just to read the list of names of the defendants in that case...

https://regmedia.co.uk/2017/06/08/01-main.pdf

The 2021 Montgomery approach to the court over lifting the protective order (in connection with the 2017 lawsuit Montgomery v The Intelligence Community of the US of America - link just above) appears to have been tossed back to the District Court in Nevada, since that is the court of origination of the protective order. We have already discussed the current status of the protective order in the Nevada Court in regard to the motion and the DOJ memorandum.

However, before going back to the District Court in Nevada when there was no movement in the Virgina lawsuit (link just above), Mike Lindell purchased 80% interest in all things Dennis Montgomery and his technology and so now Lindell is the intervening petitioner in the 2007 Nevada case to have the Montgomery protective order lifted so that he (Lindell) can use the 32 terabytes of PCAP collection proving foreign manipulation (vote flipping) of the 2020 election in the lawsuit filed against him by Dominion for defamation. Strategy for that move is that now the case has much more national attention than if just Montgomery had approached the District Court in Nevada and so guys like me with no girlfriend can spend Friday nights reading old court cases.

So you see, it is not just about getting the protective order lifted so that Mike Lindell can use the PCAP collection data to defend himself in the defamation case against him by Dominion (see link below) ...

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/59670901/us-dominion-inc-v-my-pillow-inc/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

But so that Montgomery's case against the Intelligence Community in Virginia for mass spying on Americans can also go forward.

Here, watch this...

https://youtu.be/vJG698U2Mvo (1 min, 22 sec)

What everyone seems to be paying no attention to is the claim that in the PCAP data that Lindell wants to first "show the world" and then use in his court case is the presence of an electronic marker that Dennis Montgomery had inserted into the software source code he was forced to turn over to the [FBI] back in 2014 so that he would be allowed to provide behind-closed-doors testimony to the Senate Intelligence Committee staff about the mass spying on Americans conducted by the US government and its intelligence agencies.

I'll write it again.

The PCAP data which proves foreign (a lot from China) manipulation of the 2020 election contains the electronic marker inserted into the source code of the software programs that Montgomery surrendered to the [FBI] in 2014.

"Lucy! You got some splainin to do!"

That is a bomb about to explode and the 900 lb gorilla dancing all around all these lawsuits and motions and protective orders, and Russia Russia Russia hoaxes...

The Washington Merry-Go-Round is going around and around and when it stops, it is going to stop right in front of that electronic marker brass ring in the PCAP data.

"Secondly, the President has this authority."

Even if the President has the authority, there is a process, and Lindell's lament about the Oval Office meeting and the lawyers and the reporter taking a picture of him outside the West Wing of the White House with 'The Memo' in his hand that had the words "Martial Law" in it, are just scripted scenes in the movie that is being filmed in real time right in front of our eyes every single day.

'The Memo' also had the name on it of Mike Lindell's future lead attorney, Kurt Olsen, a former Navy SEAL. What are the odds?

"Why didn't Trump remove it during his Administration?"

Personally, I think that screenplay script would have bombed in production. And if Trump had signed the Executive Order and lifted the protective order, where would we be in terms of waking as individuals and as a united nation to just how corrupt and rotten our government institutions, the legislative (national and state and local), the executive (national and state and local) and judiciary (national and state and local), really are?

Its a plan to reach across generations, races, genders, religions, cultures, etc. to unite we the people in one common cause: Freedom and liberty for all.

A lot of brainwashing, conditioning and gaslighting to undue. Can you think of a better way for things to have turned out?

And its a world wide plan, not just an American plan.

Thirdly, if there is a gag order on this, then how did Mike Lindell learn of the details?

https://youtu.be/lRTtLvKAKgk?t=100

"A lot of this is ambiguous at this point in time."

Hope the above adds some clarity and has addressed some of the ambiguity.

2 years ago
3 score
Reason: None provided.

"I'm not sure if my question was answered. It however doesn't sound like a DoJ Memorandum is the place a gag order due to the State's secrecy act can be lifted."

You are correct both technically and substantively. The DOJ memorandum only provides the judge (in this instance) with an informed opinion that a judge (since this is not the judge that promulgated the order in the first place) could use in making a decision (which has not been made to date) to lift or maintain the protective order currently in place.

The real back story here is not clear and is not clear on purpose. This rabbit hole

https://dennismontgomery.com/

lets you know what Dennis Montgomery knows is the real reason the gag order is still in effect. Scroll down and read the section that is titled Whistleblower Efforts, and after reading that section consider the following additional information.

The original protective order was issued based on the declaration to the judge in the 2007 court case (Montgomery v eTreppid Technologies) based on the declaration of then Director of National Intelligence John L. Negroponte, which you can read (and I recommend you read because there is simply no better way to comprehend what is really going on until you can parse the real from the spin on this issue) in the document linked below, beginning on page 96.

This is Dennis Montgomery's Declaration, attached to Mike Lindell's motion to intervene in the Montgomery v. eTreppid case in order to have the protective order lifted.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nvd.46642/gov.uscourts.nvd.46642.1216.2_2.pdf ( go to page 96 for DNI declaration)

However, there was a second presentation of secret information to the original judge in the case in 2007, the presentation was in camera (shown to the judge only by representatives of the US government) during which the judge was briefed and shown documentation not on the record nor to which either attorneys or plaintiff and defendant were shown. Now the judge is being asked to take the DoJs word 15 years later, without benefit of knowing now what the judge in 2007 knew, particularly since there is no record of the actual second secret presentation of the information provided the 2007 judge (maybe the documents could be produced again - but not record of the actual presentation, and that is problematic for the current judge).

Your next question...

So, how can the Montgomery gag order be lifted by the DoJ?

Gets to the spin Mike Lindell is putting on the DoJ memorandum.

Riddle me this, Batman. If the DoJ could lift the gag order, why would they have had to go a judge in the first place to have a gag order imposed?

What should be becoming clear is that nothing about this gag order business is what it appears to be.

Lots of smoke and lots of mirrors.

The original case that all of this came out of was based on the unsuccessful attempt by Montgomery's then business partner, a guy named Trepp (hence eTreppid - a play on the word intrepid) to gain control of all of Montgomery's proprietary software when Montgomery first balked when he found out what the government was really doing with his collection, exploitation and analysis software and systems.

When Trepp, afraid Montgomery was going to break his (Trepp's) rice-bowl of government contracts, and that he (Trepp) could not buy out Montgomery, he (Trepp) brought a lawsuit to try and force the issue and get the technology through the courts. Montgomery counter-sued, the Trepp v Montgomery case was joined with the Montgomery v eTreppid counter-suit, and that's why we are referring back to Montgomery v eTreppid and not eTreppid v Montgomery.

Now there are lots of slimy corrupt strings Trepp pulled in and out of court to put pressure on Montgomery, but one of the worst was being able to get Nevada state and local officials to use the FBI to front a raid on Montgomery's home in order to try and find and seize the really core and most valuable of the source code for various software applications.

Montgomery was able to prove that the FBI raid was based on lies and misrepresentations about who owned what by the original contracts of incorporation. Montgomery gave as good as he got and leaked a lot of "receipts" to the press in Nevada to push back on the outside political pressure that was coming to bear. The last guy you want to try and jack-up is the one-eyed guy who writes the source code for all the braille enabled computers in the land of the blind. Montgomery was able to get the judge to order the [FBI] to return everything they had taken in the illegal raid (they never got the important stuff in the first place) but they still have not returned everything seized in 2007 to this day.

Sound familiar?

Is this movie playing at your local theater?

Its called "Mar-a-Lago".

However, the protective order issued in connection with the 2007 case was never lifted (bad lawyering) and in 2010, the government showed up at a Montgomery bankruptcy proceeding (don't ask - but this is all smoke and mirrors too, having to do with how the 2007 case was settled and how Montgomery was protecting assets from ambulance-chasing vulture-identifying thug lawyers) and invoked the protective order stating Montgomery was still barred from revealing issues covered under the 2007 order.

There were some immunity negotiations in 2014 that is the next chapter / scene of this saga, in which Montgomery was allowed to give testimony as a whistleblower to Senate Intelligence Committee staff in exchange for finally turning over copies of the source code to the [FBI] that they had been after all along (insert here the backstory subplot of who, originally working through Trepp back in 2007, besides the [FBI], was working with Trepp to get all the good source code - told by a chain smoking nondescript heavily-wrinkled man of medium height and build and of no certain age in a faded grey suit). Somewhat beyond the scope of your question but it is a crucial part of the narrative as you will read later.

In June (I believe it was June) of 2021 Montgomery approached a court in Virginia where he had filed suit in 2017 against about anybody who was anybody in the Intelligence Community over alleged illegal spying on American citizens and government officials on a mass scale. See link below just to read the list of names of the defendants in that case...

https://regmedia.co.uk/2017/06/08/01-main.pdf

The 2021 Montgomery approach to the court over lifting the protective order (in connection with the 2017 lawsuit Montgomery v The Intelligence Community of the US of America - link just above) appears to have been tossed back to the District Court in Nevada, since that is the court of origination of the protective order. We have already discussed the current status of the protective order in the Nevada Court in regard to the motion and the DOJ memorandum.

However, before going back to the District Court in Nevada when there was no movement in the Virgina lawsuit (link just above), Mike Lindell purchased 80% interest in all things Dennis Montgomery and his technology and so now Lindell is the intervening petitioner in the 2007 Nevada case to have the Montgomery protective order lifted so that he (Lindell) can use the 32 terabytes of PCAP collection proving foreign manipulation (vote flipping) of the 2020 election in the lawsuit filed against him by Dominion for defamation. Strategy for that move is that now the case has much more national attention than if just Montgomery had approached the District Court in Nevada and so guys like me with no girlfriend can spend Friday nights reading old court cases.

So you see, it is not just about getting the protective order lifted so that Mike Lindell can use the PCAP collection data to defend himself in the defamation case against him by Dominion (see link below) ...

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/59670901/us-dominion-inc-v-my-pillow-inc/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

But so that Montgomery's case against the Intelligence Community in Virginia for mass spying on Americans can also go forward.

Here, watch this...

https://youtu.be/vJG698U2Mvo (1 min, 22 sec)

What everyone seems to be paying no attention to is the claim that in the PCAP data that Lindell wants to first "show the world" and then use in his court case is the presence of an electronic marker that Dennis Montgomery had inserted into the software source code he was forced to turn over to the [FBI] back in 2014 so that he would be allowed to provide behind-closed-doors testimony to the Senate Intelligence Committee staff about the mass spying on Americans conducted by the US government and its intelligence agencies.

I'll write it again.

The PCAP data which proves foreign (a lot from China) manipulation of the 2020 election contains the electronic marker inserted into the source code of the software programs that Montgomery surrendered to the [FBI] in 2014.

"Lucy! You got some splainin to do!"

That is a bomb about to explode and the 900 lb gorilla dancing all around all these lawsuits and motions and protective orders, and Russia Russia Russia hoaxes...

The Washington Merry-Go-Round is going around and around and when it stops, it is going to stop right in front of that electronic marker brass ring in the PCAP data.

"Secondly, the President has this authority."

Even if the President has the authority, there is a process, and Lindell's lament about the Oval Office meeting and the lawyers and the reporter taking a picture of him outside the West Wing of the White House with 'The Memo' in his hand that had the words "Martial Law" in it, are just scripted scenes in the movie that is being filmed in real time right in front of our eyes every single day.

'The Memo' also had the name on it of Mike Lindell's future lead attorney, Kurt Olsen, a former Navy SEAL. What are the odds?

"Why didn't Trump remove it during his Administration?"

Personally, I think that screenplay script would have bombed in production. And if Trump had signed the Executive Order and lifted the protective order, where would we be in terms of waking as individuals and as a united nation to just how corrupt and rotten our government institutions, the legislative (national and state and local), the executive (national and state and local) and judiciary (national and state and local), really are?

Its a plan to reach across generations, races, genders, religions, cultures, etc. to unite we the people in one common cause: Freedom and liberty for all.

A lot of brainwashing, conditioning and gaslighting to undue. Can you think of a better way for things to have turned out?

And its a world wide plan, not just an American plan.

Thirdly, if there is a gag order on this, then how did Mike Lindell learn of the details?

https://youtu.be/lRTtLvKAKgk?t=100

A lot of this is ambiguous at this point in time.

Hope the above adds some clarity and has addressed some of the ambiguity.

2 years ago
3 score
Reason: None provided.

"I'm not sure if my question was answered. It however doesn't sound like a DoJ Memorandum is the place a gag order due to the State's secrecy act can be lifted."

You are correct both technically and substantively. The DOJ memorandum only provides the judge (in this instance) with an informed opinion that a judge (since this is not the judge that promulgated the order in the first place) could use in making a decision (which has not been made to date) to lift or maintain the protective order currently in place.

The real back story here is not clear and is not clear on purpose. This rabbit hole

https://dennismontgomery.com/

lets you know what Dennis Montgomery knows is the real reason the gag order is still in effect. Scroll down and read the section that is titled Whistleblower Efforts, and after reading that section consider the following additional information.

The original protective order was issued based on the declaration to the judge in the 2007 court case (Montgomery v eTreppid Technologies) based on the declaration of then Director of National Intelligence John L. Negroponte, which you can read (and I recommend you read because there is simply no better way to comprehend what is really going on until you can parse the real from the spin on this issue) in the document linked below, beginning on page 96.

This is Dennis Montgomery's Declaration, attached to Mike Lindell's motion to intervene in the Montgomery v. eTreppid case in order to have the protective order lifted.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nvd.46642/gov.uscourts.nvd.46642.1216.2_2.pdf ( go to page 96 for DNI declaration)

However, there was a second presentation of secret information to the original judge in the case in 2007, the presentation was in camera (shown to the judge only by representatives of the US government) during which the judge was briefed and shown documentation not on the record nor to which either attorneys or plaintiff and defendant were shown. Now the judge is being asked to take the DoJs word 15 years later, without benefit of knowing now what the judge in 2007 knew, particularly since there is no record of the actual second secret presentation of the information provided the 2007 judge (maybe the documents could be produced again - but not record of the actual presentation, and that is problematic for the current judge).

Your next question...

So, how can the Montgomery gag order be lifted by the DoJ?

Gets to the spin Mike Lindell is putting on the DoJ memorandum.

Riddle me this, Batman. If the DoJ could lift the gag order, why would they have had to go a judge in the first place to have a gag order imposed?

What should be becoming clear is that nothing about this gag order business is what it appears to be.

Lots of smoke and lots of mirrors.

The original case that all of this came out of was based on the unsuccessful attempt by Montgomery's then business partner, a guy named Trepp (hence eTreppid - a play on the word intrepid) to gain control of all of Montgomery's proprietary software when Montgomery first balked when he found out what the government was really doing with his collection, exploitation and analysis software and systems.

When Trepp, afraid Montgomery was going to break his (Trepp's) rice-bowl of government contracts, and that he (Trepp) could not buy out Montgomery, he (Trepp) brought a lawsuit to try and force the issue and get the technology through the courts. Montgomery counter-sued, the Trepp v Montgomery case was joined with the Montgomery v eTreppid counter-suit, and that's why we are referring back to Montgomery v eTreppid and not eTreppid v Montgomery.

Now there are lots of slimy corrupt strings Trepp pulled in and out of court to put pressure on Montgomery, but one of the worst was being able to get Nevada state and local officials to use the FBI to front a raid on Montgomery's home in order to try and find and seize the really core and most valuable of the source code for various software applications.

Montgomery was able to prove that the FBI raid was based on lies and misrepresentations about who owned what by the original contracts of incorporation. Montgomery gave as good as he got and leaked a lot of "receipts" to the press in Nevada to push back on the outside political pressure that was coming to bear. The last guy you want to try and jack-up is the one-eyed guy who writes the source code for all the braille enabled computers in the land of the blind. Montgomery was able to get the judge to order the [FBI] to return everything they had taken in the illegal raid (they never got the important stuff in the first place) but they still have not returned everything seized in 2007 to this day.

Sound familiar?

Is this movie playing at your local theater?

Its called "Mar-a-Lago".

However, the protective order issued in connection with the 2007 case was never lifted (bad lawyering) and in 2010, the government showed up at a Montgomery bankruptcy proceeding (don't ask - but this is all smoke and mirrors too, having to do with how the 2007 case was settled and how Montgomery was protecting assets from ambulance-chasing vulture-identifying thug lawyers) and invoked the protective order stating Montgomery was still barred from revealing issues covered under the 2007 order.

There were some immunity negotiations in 2014 that is the next chapter / scene of this saga, in which Montgomery was allowed to give testimony as a whistleblower to Senate Intelligence Committee staff in exchange for finally turning over copies of the source code to the [FBI] that they had been after all along (insert here the backstory subplot of who, originally working through Trepp back in 2007, besides the [FBI], was working with Trepp to get all the good source code - told by a chain smoking nondescript heavily-wrinkled man of medium height and build and of no certain age in a faded grey suit). Somewhat beyond the scope of your question but it is a crucial part of the narrative as you will read later.

In June (I believe it was June) of 2021 Montgomery approached a court in Virginia where he had filed suit in 2017 against about anybody who was anybody in the Intelligence Community over alleged illegal spying on American citizens and government officials on a mass scale. See link below just to read the list of names of the defendants in that case...

https://regmedia.co.uk/2017/06/08/01-main.pdf

The 2021 Montgomery approach to the court over lifting the protective order (in connection with the 2017 lawsuit Montgomery v The Intelligence Community of the US of America - link just above) appears to have been tossed back to the District Court in Nevada, since that is the court of origination of the protective order. We have already discussed the current status of the protective order in the Nevada Court in regard to the motion and the DOJ memorandum.

However, before going back to the District Court in Nevada when there was no movement in the Virgina lawsuit - link just above), Mike Lindell purchased 80% interest in all things Dennis Montgomery and his technology and so now Lindell is the intervening petitioner in the 2007 Nevada case to have the Montgomery protective order lifted so that he (Lindell) can use the 32 terabytes of PCAP collection proving foreign manipulation (vote flipping) of the 2020 election in the lawsuit filed against him by Dominion for defamation. Strategy for that move is that now the case has much more national attention than if just Montgomery had approached the District Court in Nevada and so guys like me with no girlfriend can spend Friday nights reading old court cases.

So you see, it is not just about getting the protective order lifted so that Mike Lindell can use the PCAP collection data to defend himself in the defamation case against him by Dominion (see link below) ...

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/59670901/us-dominion-inc-v-my-pillow-inc/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

But so that Montgomery's case against the Intelligence Community in Virginia for mass spying on Americans can also go forward.

Here, watch this...

https://youtu.be/vJG698U2Mvo (1 min, 22 sec)

What everyone seems to be paying no attention to is the claim that in the PCAP data that Lindell wants to first "show the world" and then use in his court case is the presence of an electronic marker that Dennis Montgomery had inserted into the software source code he was forced to turn over to the [FBI] back in 2014 so that he would be allowed to provide behind-closed-doors testimony to the Senate Intelligence Committee staff about the mass spying on Americans conducted by the US government and its intelligence agencies.

I'll write it again.

The PCAP data which proves foreign (a lot from China) manipulation of the 2020 election contains the electronic marker inserted into the source code of the software programs that Montgomery surrendered to the [FBI] in 2014.

"Lucy! You got some splainin to do!"

That is a bomb about to explode and the 900 lb gorilla dancing all around all these lawsuits and motions and protective orders, and Russia Russia Russia hoaxes...

The Washington Merry-Go-Round is going around and around and when it stops, it is going to stop right in front of that electronic marker brass ring in the PCAP data.

"Secondly, the President has this authority."

Even if the President has the authority, there is a process, and Lindell's lament about the Oval Office meeting and the lawyers and the reporter taking a picture of him outside the West Wing of the White House with 'The Memo' in his hand that had the words "Martial Law" in it, are just scripted scenes in the movie that is being filmed in real time right in front of our eyes every single day.

'The Memo' also had the name on it of Mike Lindell's future lead attorney, Kurt Olsen, a former Navy SEAL. What are the odds?

"Why didn't Trump remove it during his Administration?"

Personally, I think that screenplay script would have bombed in production. And if Trump had signed the Executive Order and lifted the protective order, where would we be in terms of waking as individuals and as a united nation to just how corrupt and rotten our government institutions, the legislative (national and state and local), the executive (national and state and local) and judiciary (national and state and local), really are?

Its a plan to reach across generations, races, genders, religions, cultures, etc. to unite we the people in one common cause: Freedom and liberty for all.

A lot of brainwashing, conditioning and gaslighting to undue. Can you think of a better way for things to have turned out?

And its a world wide plan, not just an American plan.

Thirdly, if there is a gag order on this, then how did Mike Lindell learn of the details?

https://youtu.be/lRTtLvKAKgk?t=100

A lot of this is ambiguous at this point in time.

Hope the above adds some clarity and has addressed some of the ambiguity.

2 years ago
2 score
Reason: None provided.

"I'm not sure if my question was answered. It however doesn't sound like a DoJ Memorandum is the place a gag order due to the State's secrecy act can be lifted."

You are correct both technically and substantively. The DOJ memorandum only provides the judge (in this instance) with an informed opinion that a judge (since this is not the judge that promulgated the order in the first place) could use in making a decision (which has not been made to date) to lift or maintain the protective order currently in place.

The real back story here is not clear and is not clear on purpose. This rabbit hole

https://dennismontgomery.com/

lets you know what Dennis Montgomery knows is the real reason the gag order is still in effect. Scroll down and read the section that is titled Whistleblower Efforts, and after reading that section consider the following additional information.

The original protective order was issued based on the declaration to the judge in the 2007 court case (Montgomery v eTreppid Technologies) based on the declaration of then Director of National Intelligence John L. Negroponte, which you can read (and I recommend you read because there is simply no better way to comprehend what is really going on until you can parse the real from the spin on this issue) in the document linked below, beginning on page 96.

This is Dennis Montgomery's Declaration, attached to Mike Lindell's motion to intervene in the Montgomery v. eTreppid case in order to have the protective order lifted.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nvd.46642/gov.uscourts.nvd.46642.1216.2_2.pdf ( go to page 96 for DNI declaration)

However, there was a second presentation of secret information to the original judge in the case in 2007, the presentation was in camera (shown to the judge only by representatives of the US government) during which the judge was briefed and shown documentation not on the record nor to which either attorneys or plaintiff and defendant were shown. Now the judge is being asked to take the DoJs word 15 years later, without benefit of knowing now what the judge in 2007 knew, particularly since there is no record of the actual second secret presentation of the information provided the 2007 judge (maybe the documents could be produced again - but not record of the actual presentation, and that is problematic for the current judge).

Your next question...

So, how can the Montgomery gag order be lifted by the DoJ?

Gets to the spin Mike Lindell is putting on the DoJ memorandum.

Riddle me this, Batman. If the DoJ could lift the gag order, why would they have had to go a judge in the first place to have a gag order imposed?

What should be becoming clear is that nothing about this gag order business is what it appears to be.

Lots of smoke and lots of mirrors.

The original case that all of this came out of was based on the unsuccessful attempt by Montgomery's then business partner, a guy named Trepp (hence eTreppid - a play on the word intrepid) to gain control of all of Montgomery's proprietary software when Montgomery first balked when he found out what the government was really doing with his collection, exploitation and analysis software and systems.

When Trepp, afraid Montgomery was going to break his (Trepp's) rice-bowl of government contracts, and that he (Trepp) could not buy out Montgomery, he (Trepp) brought a lawsuit to try and force the issue and get the technology through the courts. Montgomery counter-sued, the Trepp v Montgomery case was joined with the Montgomery v eTreppid counter-suit, and that's why we are referring back to Montgomery v eTreppid and not eTreppid v Montgomery.

Now there are lots of slimy corrupt strings Trepp pulled in and out of court to put pressure on Montgomery, but one of the worst was being able to get Nevada state and local officials to use the FBI to front a raid on Montgomery's home in order to try and find and seize the really core and most valuable of the source code for various software applications.

Montgomery was able to prove that the FBI raid was based on lies and misrepresentations about who owned what by the original contracts of incorporation. Montgomery gave as good as he got and leaked a lot of "receipts" to the press in Nevada to push back on the outside political pressure that was coming to bear. The last guy you want to try and jack-up is the one-eyed guy who writes the source code for all the braille enabled computers in the land of the blind. Montgomery was able to get the judge to order the [FBI] to return everything they had taken in the illegal raid (they never got the important stuff in the first place) but they still have not returned everything seized in 2007 to this day.

Sound familiar?

Is this movie playing at your local theater?

Its called "Mar-a-Lago".

However, the protective order issued in connection with the 2007 case was never lifted (bad lawyering) and in 2010, the government showed up at a Montgomery bankruptcy proceeding (don't ask - but this is all smoke and mirrors too, having to do with how the 2007 case was settled and how Montgomery was protecting assets from ambulance-chasing vulture-identifying thug lawyers) and invoked the protective order stating Montgomery was still barred from revealing issues covered under the 2007 order.

There were some immunity negotiations in 2014 that is the next chapter / scene of this saga, in which Montgomery was allowed to give testimony as a whistleblower to Senate Intelligence Committee staff in exchange for finally turning over copies of the source code to the [FBI] that they had been after all along (insert here the backstory subplot of who, originally working through Trepp back in 2007, besides the [FBI], was working with Trepp to get all the good source code - told by a chain smoking nondescript heavily-wrinkled man of medium height and build and of no certain age in a faded grey suit). Somewhat beyond the scope of your question but it is a crucial part of the narrative as you will read later.

In June (I believe it was June) of 2021 Montgomery approached a court in Virginia where he had filed suit in 2017 against about anybody who was anybody in the Intelligence Community over alleged illegal spying on American citizens and government officials on a mass scale. See link below just to read the list of names of the defendants in that case...

https://regmedia.co.uk/2017/06/08/01-main.pdf

The 2021 Montgomery approach to the court over lifting the protective order (in connection with the 2017 lawsuit Montgomery v The Intelligence Community of the US of America - link just above) appears to have been tossed back to the District Court in Nevada, since that is the court of origination of the protective order. We have already discussed the current status of the protective order in the Nevada Court in regard to the motion and the DOJ memorandum.

However, before going back to the District Court in Nevada when there was no movement in the Virgina lawsuit - link just above), Mike Lindell purchased 80% interest in all things Dennis Montgomery and his technology and Lindell so now Lindell is the intervening petitioner in the 2007 Nevada case to have the Montgomery protective order lifted so that he, Lindell can use the 32 terabytes of PCAP collection proving foreign manipulation (vote flipping) of the 2020 election in the lawsuit filed against him by Dominion for defamation. Strategy for that move is that now the case has much more national attention than if just Montgomery had approached the District Court in Nevada and guys like me with no girlfriend can spend Friday nights reading old court cases.

So you see, it is not just about getting the protective order lifted so that Mike Lindell can use the PCAP collection data to defend himself in the defamation case against him by Dominion (see link below) ...

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/59670901/us-dominion-inc-v-my-pillow-inc/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

But so that Montgomery's case against the Intelligence Community in Virginia for mass spying on Americans can also go forward.

Here, watch this...

https://youtu.be/vJG698U2Mvo (1 min, 22 sec)

What everyone seems to be paying no attention to is the claim that in the PCAP data that Mike Lindell wants to first show the world and then use in his court case is the presence of an electronic marker that Dennis Montgomery had inserted into the software source code he was forced to turn over to the [FBI] in 2014, so that he would be allowed to provide behind-closed-doors testimony to the Senate Intelligence Committee staff about the mass spying on Americans conducted by the US government and its intelligence agencies.

I'll write it again. The PCAP data which proves foreign (a lot from China) manipulation of the 2020 election contains the electronic marker inserted into the source code of the software programs that Montgomery surrendered to the [FBI] in 2014.

"Lucy! You got some splainin to do!"

That is a bomb shell and the 900 lb gorilla dancing all around all these lawsuits and motions and protective orders, and Russia Russia Russia hoaxes... the Washington Merry-Go-Round is going around and around and when it stops, it is going to stop right in front of that electronic marker brass ring in the PCAP data.

"Secondly, the President has this authority."

Even if the President has the authority, there is a process, and Mike Lindell's story about the Oval Office meeting, and the lawyers, and the reporter taking a picture of him outside the West Wing of the White House with a memo in his hand that had the words "Martial Law" in it are just scripted scenes in the movie that is being filmed in real time right in front of our eyes every single day.

It also had the name of Mike Lindell's future lead attorney, Kurt Olsen, a former Navy SEAL, on it. What are the odds?

"Why didn't Trump remove it during his Administration?"

Personally, I think that screenplay script would have bombed in production. And if Trump had signed the Executive Order and lifted the protective order, where would we be in terms of waking up the nation to just how corrupt and rotten our government, the legislative (national and state and local), the executive (national and state and local) and judiciary (national and state and local) really are?

Its a plan to reach across generations, races, genders, religions, cultures, etc. to unite we the people in one common cause: Freedom and liberty for all.

A lot of brainwashing, conditioning and gaslighting to undue. Can you think of a better way for things to have turned out?

And its a world wide plan, not just an American plan.

Thirdly, if there is a gag order on this, then how did Mike Lindell learn of the details?

https://youtu.be/lRTtLvKAKgk?t=100

A lot of this is ambiguous at this point in time.

Hope the above adds some clarity and has addressed some of the ambiguity.

2 years ago
2 score
Reason: None provided.

"I'm not sure if my question was answered. It however doesn't sound like a DoJ Memorandum is the place a gag order due to the State's secrecy act can be lifted."

You are correct both technically and substantively. The DOJ memorandum only provides the judge (in this instance) with an informed opinion that a judge (since this is not the judge that promulgated the order in the first place) could use in making a decision (which has not been made to date) to lift or maintain the protective order currently in place.

The real back story here is not clear and is not clear on purpose. This rabbit hole

https://dennismontgomery.com/

lets you know what Dennis Montgomery knows is the real reason the gag order is still in effect. Scroll down and read the section that is titled Whistleblower Efforts, and after reading that section consider the following additional information.

The original protective order was issued based on the declaration to the judge in the 2007 court case (Montgomery v eTreppid Technologies) based on the declaration of then Director of National Intelligence John L. Negroponte, which you can read (and I recommend you read because there is simply no better way to comprehend what is really going on until you can parse the real from the spin on this issue) in the document linked below, beginning on page 96.

This is Dennis Montgomery's Declaration, attached to Mike Lindell's motion to intervene in the Montgomery v. eTreppid case in order to have the protective order lifted.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nvd.46642/gov.uscourts.nvd.46642.1216.2_2.pdf ( go to page 96 for DNI declaration)

However, there was a second presentation of secret information to the original judge in the case in 2007, the presentation was in camera (shown to the judge only by representatives of the US government) during which the judge was briefed and shown documentation not on the record nor to which either attorneys or plaintiff and defendant were shown. Now the judge is being asked to take the DoJs word 15 years later, without benefit of knowing now what the judge in 2007 knew, particularly since there is no record of the actual second secret presentation of the information provided the 2007 judge (maybe the documents could be produced again - but not record of the actual presentation, and that is problematic for the current judge).

Your next question...

So, how can the Montgomery gag order be lifted by the DoJ?

Gets to the spin Mike Lindell is putting on the DoJ memorandum.

Riddle me this, Batman. If the DoJ could lift the gag order, why would they have had to go a judge in the first place to have a gag order imposed?

What should be becoming clear is that nothing about this gag order business is what it appears to be.

Lots of smoke and lots of mirrors.

The original case that all of this came out of was based on the unsuccessful attempt by Montgomery's then business partner, a guy named Trepp (hence eTreppid - a play on the word intrepid - to gain control of all of Montgomery's proprietary software when Montgomery first balked when he found out what the government was really doing with his collection, exploitation and analysis software and systems. When Trepp, afraid Montgomery was going to break his (Trepp's) rice-bowl of government contracts, and that he (Trepp) could not buy out Montgomery, he (Trepp) brought a lawsuit to try and force the issue and get the technology through the courts. Montgomery counter-sued, the Trepp v Montgomery case was joined with the Montgomery v eTreppid counter-suit, and that's why we are referring back to Montgomery v eTreppid and not eTreppid v Montgomery.

Now there are lots of slimy corrupt strings Trepp pulled in and out of court to put pressure on Montgomery, but one of the worst was being able to get Nevada state and local officials to use the FBI to front a raid on Montgomery's home in order to try and find and seize the really core and most valuable of the source code for various software applications.

Montgomery was able to prove that the FBI raid was based on lies and misrepresentations about who owned what by the original contracts of incorporation. Montgomery gave as good as he got and leaked a lot of "receipts" to the press in Nevada to push back on the outside political pressure that was coming to bear. The last guy you want to try and jack-up is the one-eyed guy who writes the source code for all the braille enabled computers in the land of the blind. Montgomery was able to get the judge to order the [FBI] to return everything they had taken in the illegal raid (they never got the important stuff in the first place) but they still have not returned everything seized in 2007 to this day.

Sound familiar?

Is this movie playing at your local theater?

Its called "Mar-a-Lago".

However, the protective order issued in connection with the 2007 case was never lifted (bad lawyering) and in 2010, the government showed up at a Montgomery bankruptcy proceeding (don't ask - but this is all smoke and mirrors too, having to do with how the 2007 case was settled and how Montgomery was protecting assets from ambulance-chasing vulture-identifying thug lawyers) and invoked the protective order stating Montgomery was still barred from revealing issues covered under the 2007 order.

There were some immunity negotiations in 2014 that is the next chapter / scene of this saga, in which Montgomery was allowed to give testimony as a whistleblower to Senate Intelligence Committee staff in exchange for finally turning over copies of the source code to the [FBI] that they had been after all along (insert here the backstory subplot of who, originally working through Trepp back in 2007, besides the [FBI], was working with Trepp to get all the good source code - told by a chain smoking nondescript heavily-wrinkled man of medium height and build and of no certain age in a faded grey suit). Somewhat beyond the scope of your question but it is a crucial part of the narrative as you will read later.

In June (I believe it was June) of 2021 Montgomery approached a court in Virginia where he had filed suit in 2017 against about anybody who was anybody in the Intelligence Community over alleged illegal spying on American citizens and government officials on a mass scale. See link below just to read the list of names of the defendants in that case...

https://regmedia.co.uk/2017/06/08/01-main.pdf

The 2021 Montgomery approach to the court over lifting the protective order (in connection with the 2017 lawsuit Montgomery v The Intelligence Community of the US of America - link just above) appears to have been tossed back to the District Court in Nevada, since that is the court of origination of the protective order. We have already discussed the current status of the protective order in the Nevada Court in regard to the motion and the DOJ memorandum.

However, before going back to the District Court in Nevada when there was no movement in the Virgina lawsuit - link just above), Mike Lindell purchased 80% interest in all things Dennis Montgomery and his technology and Lindell so now Lindell is the intervening petitioner in the 2007 Nevada case to have the Montgomery protective order lifted so that he, Lindell can use the 32 terabytes of PCAP collection proving foreign manipulation (vote flipping) of the 2020 election in the lawsuit filed against him by Dominion for defamation. Strategy for that move is that now the case has much more national attention than if just Montgomery had approached the District Court in Nevada and guys like me with no girlfriend can spend Friday nights reading old court cases.

So you see, it is not just about getting the protective order lifted so that Mike Lindell can use the PCAP collection data to defend himself in the defamation case against him by Dominion (see link below) ...

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/59670901/us-dominion-inc-v-my-pillow-inc/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

But so that Montgomery's case against the Intelligence Community in Virginia for mass spying on Americans can also go forward.

Here, watch this...

https://youtu.be/vJG698U2Mvo (1 min, 22 sec)

What everyone seems to be paying no attention to is the claim that in the PCAP data that Mike Lindell wants to first show the world and then use in his court case is the presence of an electronic marker that Dennis Montgomery had inserted into the software source code he was forced to turn over to the [FBI] in 2014, so that he would be allowed to provide behind-closed-doors testimony to the Senate Intelligence Committee staff about the mass spying on Americans conducted by the US government and its intelligence agencies.

I'll write it again. The PCAP data which proves foreign (a lot from China) manipulation of the 2020 election contains the electronic marker inserted into the source code of the software programs that Montgomery surrendered to the [FBI] in 2014.

"Lucy! You got some splainin to do!"

That is a bomb shell and the 900 lb gorilla dancing all around all these lawsuits and motions and protective orders, and Russia Russia Russia hoaxes... the Washington Merry-Go-Round is going around and around and when it stops, it is going to stop right in front of that electronic marker brass ring in the PCAP data.

"Secondly, the President has this authority."

Even if the President has the authority, there is a process, and Mike Lindell's story about the Oval Office meeting, and the lawyers, and the reporter taking a picture of him outside the West Wing of the White House with a memo in his hand that had the words "Martial Law" in it are just scripted scenes in the movie that is being filmed in real time right in front of our eyes every single day.

It also had the name of Mike Lindell's future lead attorney, Kurt Olsen, a former Navy SEAL, on it. What are the odds?

"Why didn't Trump remove it during his Administration?"

Personally, I think that screenplay script would have bombed in production. And if Trump had signed the Executive Order and lifted the protective order, where would we be in terms of waking up the nation to just how corrupt and rotten our government, the legislative (national and state and local), the executive (national and state and local) and judiciary (national and state and local) really are?

Its a plan to reach across generations, races, genders, religions, cultures, etc. to unite we the people in one common cause: Freedom and liberty for all.

A lot of brainwashing, conditioning and gaslighting to undue. Can you think of a better way for things to have turned out?

And its a world wide plan, not just an American plan.

Thirdly, if there is a gag order on this, then how did Mike Lindell learn of the details?

https://youtu.be/lRTtLvKAKgk?t=100

A lot of this is ambiguous at this point in time.

Hope the above adds some clarity and has addressed some of the ambiguity.

2 years ago
1 score
Reason: None provided.

"I'm not sure if my question was answered. It however doesn't sound like a DoJ Memorandum is the place a gag order due to the State's secrecy act can be lifted."

You are correct both technically and substantively. The DOJ memorandum only provides the judge (in this instance) with an informed opinion that a judge (since this is not the judge that promulgated the order in the first place) could use in making a decision (which has not been made to date) to lift or maintain the protective order currently in place.

The real back story here is not clear and is not clear on purpose. This rabbit hole

https://dennismontgomery.com/ and scroll down to Whistleblower Efforts

lets you know what Dennis Montgomery knows is the real reason the gag order is still in effect. Scroll down and read the section that is titled Whistleblower Efforts, and after reading that section consider the following additional information.

The original protective order was issued based on the declaration to the judge in the 2007 court case (Montgomery v eTreppid Technologies) based on the declaration of then Director of National Intelligence John L. Negroponte, which you can read (and I recommend you read because there is simply no better way to comprehend what is really going on until you can parse the real from the spin on this issue) in the document linked below, beginning on page 96.

This is Dennis Montgomery's Declaration, attached to Mike Lindell's motion to intervene in the Montgomery v. eTreppid case in order to have the protective order lifted.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nvd.46642/gov.uscourts.nvd.46642.1216.2_2.pdf ( go to page 96 for DNI declaration)

However, there was a second presentation of secret information to the original judge in the case in 2007, the presentation was in camera (shown to the judge only by representatives of the US government) during which the judge was briefed and shown documentation not on the record nor to which either attorneys or plaintiff and defendant were shown. Now the judge is being asked to take the DoJs word 15 years later, without benefit of knowing now what the judge in 2007 knew, particularly since there is no record of the actual second secret presentation of the information provided the 2007 judge (maybe the documents could be produced again - but not record of the actual presentation, and that is problematic for the current judge).

Your next question...

So, how can the Montgomery gag order be lifted by the DoJ?

Gets to the spin Mike Lindell is putting on the DoJ memorandum.

Riddle me this, Batman. If the DoJ could lift the gag order, why would they have had to go a judge in the first place to have a gag order imposed?

What should be becoming clear is that nothing about this gag order business is what it appears to be.

Lots of smoke and lots of mirrors.

The original case that all of this came out of was based on the unsuccessful attempt by Montgomery's then business partner, a guy named Trepp (hence eTreppid - a play on the word intrepid - to gain control of all of Montgomery's proprietary software when Montgomery first balked when he found out what the government was really doing with his collection, exploitation and analysis software and systems. When Trepp, afraid Montgomery was going to break his (Trepp's) rice-bowl of government contracts, and that he (Trepp) could not buy out Montgomery, he (Trepp) brought a lawsuit to try and force the issue and get the technology through the courts. Montgomery counter-sued, the Trepp v Montgomery case was joined with the Montgomery v eTreppid counter-suit, and that's why we are referring back to Montgomery v eTreppid and not eTreppid v Montgomery.

Now there are lots of slimy corrupt strings Trepp pulled in and out of court to put pressure on Montgomery, but one of the worst was being able to get Nevada state and local officials to use the FBI to front a raid on Montgomery's home in order to try and find and seize the really core and most valuable of the source code for various software applications.

Montgomery was able to prove that the FBI raid was based on lies and misrepresentations about who owned what by the original contracts of incorporation. Montgomery gave as good as he got and leaked a lot of "receipts" to the press in Nevada to push back on the outside political pressure that was coming to bear. The last guy you want to try and jack-up is the one-eyed guy who writes the source code for all the braille enabled computers in the land of the blind. Montgomery was able to get the judge to order the [FBI] to return everything they had taken in the illegal raid (they never got the important stuff in the first place) but they still have not returned everything seized in 2007 to this day.

Sound familiar?

Is this movie playing at your local theater?

Its called "Mar-a-Lago".

However, the protective order issued in connection with the 2007 case was never lifted (bad lawyering) and in 2010, the government showed up at a Montgomery bankruptcy proceeding (don't ask - but this is all smoke and mirrors too, having to do with how the 2007 case was settled and how Montgomery was protecting assets from ambulance-chasing vulture-identifying thug lawyers) and invoked the protective order stating Montgomery was still barred from revealing issues covered under the 2007 order.

There were some immunity negotiations in 2014 that is the next chapter / scene of this saga, in which Montgomery was allowed to give testimony as a whistleblower to Senate Intelligence Committee staff in exchange for finally turning over copies of the source code to the [FBI] that they had been after all along (insert here the backstory subplot of who, originally working through Trepp back in 2007, besides the [FBI], was working with Trepp to get all the good source code - told by a chain smoking nondescript heavily-wrinkled man of medium height and build and of no certain age in a faded grey suit). Somewhat beyond the scope of your question but it is a crucial part of the narrative as you will read later.

In June (I believe it was June) of 2021 Montgomery approached a court in Virginia where he had filed suit in 2017 against about anybody who was anybody in the Intelligence Community over alleged illegal spying on American citizens and government officials on a mass scale. See link below just to read the list of names of the defendants in that case...

https://regmedia.co.uk/2017/06/08/01-main.pdf

The 2021 Montgomery approach to the court over lifting the protective order (in connection with the 2017 lawsuit Montgomery v The Intelligence Community of the US of America - link just above) appears to have been tossed back to the District Court in Nevada, since that is the court of origination of the protective order. We have already discussed the current status of the protective order in the Nevada Court in regard to the motion and the DOJ memorandum.

However, before going back to the District Court in Nevada when there was no movement in the Virgina lawsuit - link just above), Mike Lindell purchased 80% interest in all things Dennis Montgomery and his technology and Lindell so now Lindell is the intervening petitioner in the 2007 Nevada case to have the Montgomery protective order lifted so that he, Lindell can use the 32 terabytes of PCAP collection proving foreign manipulation (vote flipping) of the 2020 election in the lawsuit filed against him by Dominion for defamation. Strategy for that move is that now the case has much more national attention than if just Montgomery had approached the District Court in Nevada and guys like me with no girlfriend can spend Friday nights reading old court cases.

So you see, it is not just about getting the protective order lifted so that Mike Lindell can use the PCAP collection data to defend himself in the defamation case against him by Dominion (see link below) ...

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/59670901/us-dominion-inc-v-my-pillow-inc/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

But so that Montgomery's case against the Intelligence Community in Virginia for mass spying on Americans can also go forward.

Here, watch this...

https://youtu.be/vJG698U2Mvo (1 min, 22 sec)

What everyone seems to be paying no attention to is the claim that in the PCAP data that Mike Lindell wants to first show the world and then use in his court case is the presence of an electronic marker that Dennis Montgomery had inserted into the software source code he was forced to turn over to the [FBI] in 2014, so that he would be allowed to provide behind-closed-doors testimony to the Senate Intelligence Committee staff about the mass spying on Americans conducted by the US government and its intelligence agencies.

I'll write it again. The PCAP data which proves foreign (a lot from China) manipulation of the 2020 election contains the electronic marker inserted into the source code of the software programs that Montgomery surrendered to the [FBI] in 2014.

"Lucy! You got some splainin to do!"

That is a bomb shell and the 900 lb gorilla dancing all around all these lawsuits and motions and protective orders, and Russia Russia Russia hoaxes... the Washington Merry-Go-Round is going around and around and when it stops, it is going to stop right in front of that electronic marker brass ring in the PCAP data.

"Secondly, the President has this authority."

Even if the President has the authority, there is a process, and Mike Lindell's story about the Oval Office meeting, and the lawyers, and the reporter taking a picture of him outside the West Wing of the White House with a memo in his hand that had the words "Martial Law" in it are just scripted scenes in the movie that is being filmed in real time right in front of our eyes every single day.

It also had the name of Mike Lindell's future lead attorney, Kurt Olsen, a former Navy SEAL, on it. What are the odds?

"Why didn't Trump remove it during his Administration?"

Personally, I think that screenplay script would have bombed in production. And if Trump had signed the Executive Order and lifted the protective order, where would we be in terms of waking up the nation to just how corrupt and rotten our government, the legislative (national and state and local), the executive (national and state and local) and judiciary (national and state and local) really are?

Its a plan to reach across generations, races, genders, religions, cultures, etc. to unite we the people in one common cause: Freedom and liberty for all.

A lot of brainwashing, conditioning and gaslighting to undue. Can you think of a better way for things to have turned out?

And its a world wide plan, not just an American plan.

Thirdly, if there is a gag order on this, then how did Mike Lindell learn of the details?

https://youtu.be/lRTtLvKAKgk?t=100

A lot of this is ambiguous at this point in time.

Hope the above adds some clarity and has addressed some of the ambiguity.

2 years ago
1 score
Reason: None provided.

"I'm not sure if my question was answered. It however doesn't sound like a DoJ Memorandum is the place a gag order due to the State's secrecy act can be lifted."

You are correct both technically and substantively. The DOJ memorandum only provides the judge (in this instance) with an informed opinion that a judge (since this is not the judge that promulgated the order in the first place) could use in making a decision (which has not been made to date) to lift or maintain the protective order currently in place.

The real back story here is not clear and is not clear on purpose. This rabbit hole

https://dennismontgomery.com/ and scroll down to Whistleblower Efforts

lets you know what Dennis Montgomery knows is the real reason the gag order is still in effect. Scroll down and read the section that is titled Whistleblower Efforts, and after reading that section consider the following additional information.

The original protective order was issued based on the declaration to the judge in the 2007 court case (Montgomery v eTreppid Technologies) based on the declaration of then Director of National Intelligence John L. Negroponte, which you can read (and I recommend you read because there is simply no better way to comprehend what is really going on until you can parse the real from the spin on this issue) in the document linked below, beginning on page 96.

This is Dennis Montgomery's Declaration, attached to Mike Lindell's motion to intervene in the Montgomery v. eTreppid case in order to have the protective order lifted.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nvd.46642/gov.uscourts.nvd.46642.1216.2_2.pdf ( go to page 96 for DNI declaration)

However, there was a second presentation of secret information to the original judge in the case in 2007, the presentation was in camera (shown to the judge only by representatives of the US government) during which the judge was briefed and shown documentation not on the record nor to which either attorneys or plaintiff and defendant were shown. Now the judge is being asked to take the DoJs word 15 years later, without benefit of knowing now what the judge in 2007 knew, particularly since there is no record of the actual second secret presentation of the information provided the 2007 judge (maybe the documents could be produced again - but not record of the actual presentation, and that is problematic for the current judge).

Your next question...

So, how can the Montgomery gag order be lifted by the DoJ?

Gets to the spin Mike Lindell is putting on the DoJ memorandum.

Riddle me this, Batman. If the DoJ could lift the gag order, why would they have had to go a judge in the first place to have a gag order imposed?

What should be becoming clear is that nothing about this gag order business is what it appears to be.

Lots of smoke and lots of mirrors.

The original case that all of this came out of was based on the unsuccessful attempt by Montgomery's then business partner, a guy named Trepp (hence eTreppid - a play on the word intrepid - to gain control of all of Montgomery's proprietary software when Montgomery first balked when he found out what the government was really doing with his collection, exploitation and analysis software and systems. When Trepp, afraid Montgomery was going to break his (Trepp's) rice-bowl of government contracts, and that he (Trepp) could not buy out Montgomery, he (Trepp) brought a lawsuit to try and force the issue and get the technology through the courts. Montgomery counter-sued, the Trepp v Montgomery case was joined with the Montgomery v eTreppid counter-suit, and that's why we are referring back to Montgomery v eTreppid and not eTreppid v Montgomery.

Now there are lots of slimy corrupt strings Trepp pulled in and out of court to put pressure on Montgomery, but one of the worst was being able to get Nevada state and local officials to use the FBI to front a raid on Montgomery's home in order to try and find and seize the really core and most valuable of the source code for various software applications.

Montgomery was able to prove that the FBI raid was based on lies and misrepresentations about who owned what by the original contracts of incorporation. Montgomery gave as good as he got and leaked a lot of "receipts" to the press in Nevada to push back on the outside political pressure that was coming to bear. The last guy you want to try and jack-up is the one-eyed guy who writes the source code for all the braille enabled computers in the land of the blind. Montgomery was able to get the judge to order the [FBI] to return everything I had taken in the illegal raid (they never got the important stuff in the first place) but they still have not returned everything seized in 2007 to this day.

Sound familiar?

Is this movie playing at your local theater?

Its called "Mar-a-Lago".

However, the protective order issued in connection with the 2007 case was never lifted (bad lawyering) and in 2010, the government showed up at a Montgomery bankruptcy proceeding (don't ask - but this is all smoke and mirrors too, having to do with how the 2007 case was settled and how Montgomery was protecting assets from ambulance-chasing vulture-identifying thug lawyers) and invoked the protective order stating Montgomery was still barred from revealing issues covered under the 2007 order.

There were some immunity negotiations in 2014 that is the next chapter / scene of this saga, in which Montgomery was allowed to give testimony as a whistleblower to Senate Intelligence Committee staff in exchange for finally turning over copies of the source code to the [FBI] that they had been after all along (insert here the backstory subplot of who, originally working through Trepp back in 2007, besides the [FBI], was working with Trepp to get all the good source code - told by a chain smoking nondescript heavily-wrinkled man of medium height and build and of no certain age in a faded grey suit). Somewhat beyond the scope of your question but it is a crucial part of the narrative as you will read later.

In June (I believe it was June) of 2021 Montgomery approached a court in Virginia where he had filed suit in 2017 against about anybody who was anybody in the Intelligence Community over alleged illegal spying on American citizens and government officials on a mass scale. See link below just to read the list of names of the defendants in that case...

https://regmedia.co.uk/2017/06/08/01-main.pdf

The 2021 Montgomery approach to the court over lifting the protective order (in connection with the 2017 lawsuit Montgomery v The Intelligence Community of the US of America - link just above) appears to have been tossed back to the District Court in Nevada, since that is the court of origination of the protective order. We have already discussed the current status of the protective order in the Nevada Court in regard to the motion and the DOJ memorandum.

However, before going back to the District Court in Nevada when there was no movement in the Virgina lawsuit - link just above), Mike Lindell purchased 80% interest in all things Dennis Montgomery and his technology and Lindell so now Lindell is the intervening petitioner in the 2007 Nevada case to have the Montgomery protective order lifted so that he, Lindell can use the 32 terabytes of PCAP collection proving foreign manipulation (vote flipping) of the 2020 election in the lawsuit filed against him by Dominion for defamation. Strategy for that move is that now the case has much more national attention than if just Montgomery had approached the District Court in Nevada and guys like me with no girlfriend can spend Friday nights reading old court cases.

So you see, it is not just about getting the protective order lifted so that Mike Lindell can use the PCAP collection data to defend himself in the defamation case against him by Dominion (see link below) ...

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/59670901/us-dominion-inc-v-my-pillow-inc/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

But so that Montgomery's case against the Intelligence Community in Virginia for mass spying on Americans can also go forward.

Here, watch this...

https://youtu.be/vJG698U2Mvo (1 min, 22 sec)

What everyone seems to be paying no attention to is the claim that in the PCAP data that Mike Lindell wants to first show the world and then use in his court case is the presence of an electronic marker that Dennis Montgomery had inserted into the software source code he was forced to turn over to the [FBI] in 2014, so that he would be allowed to provide behind-closed-doors testimony to the Senate Intelligence Committee staff about the mass spying on Americans conducted by the US government and its intelligence agencies.

I'll write it again. The PCAP data which proves foreign (a lot from China) manipulation of the 2020 election contains the electronic marker inserted into the source code of the software programs that Montgomery surrendered to the [FBI] in 2014.

"Lucy! You got some splainin to do!"

That is a bomb shell and the 900 lb gorilla dancing all around all these lawsuits and motions and protective orders, and Russia Russia Russia hoaxes... the Washington Merry-Go-Round is going around and around and when it stops, it is going to stop right in front of that electronic marker brass ring in the PCAP data.

"Secondly, the President has this authority."

Even if the President has the authority, there is a process, and Mike Lindell's story about the Oval Office meeting, and the lawyers, and the reporter taking a picture of him outside the West Wing of the White House with a memo in his hand that had the words "Martial Law" in it are just scripted scenes in the movie that is being filmed in real time right in front of our eyes every single day.

It also had the name of Mike Lindell's future lead attorney, Kurt Olsen, a former Navy SEAL, on it. What are the odds?

"Why didn't Trump remove it during his Administration?"

Personally, I think that screenplay script would have bombed in production. And if Trump had signed the Executive Order and lifted the protective order, where would we be in terms of waking up the nation to just how corrupt and rotten our government, the legislative (national and state and local), the executive (national and state and local) and judiciary (national and state and local) really are?

Its a plan to reach across generations, races, genders, religions, cultures, etc. to unite we the people in one common cause: Freedom and liberty for all.

A lot of brainwashing, conditioning and gaslighting to undue. Can you think of a better way for things to have turned out?

And its a world wide plan, not just an American plan.

Thirdly, if there is a gag order on this, then how did Mike Lindell learn of the details?

https://youtu.be/lRTtLvKAKgk?t=100

A lot of this is ambiguous at this point in time.

Hope the above adds some clarity and has addressed some of the ambiguity.

2 years ago
1 score
Reason: None provided.

"I'm not sure if my question was answered. It however doesn't sound like a DoJ Memorandum is the place a gag order due to the State's secrecy act can be lifted."

You are correct both technically and substantively. The DOJ memorandum only provides the judge (in this instance) with an informed opinion that a judge (since this is not the judge that promulgated the order in the first place) could use in making a decision (which has not been made to date) to lift or maintain the protective order currently in place.

The real back story here is not clear and is not clear on purpose. This rabbit hole

https://dennismontgomery.com/ and scroll down to Whistleblower Efforts

lets you know what Dennis Montgomery knows is the real reason the gag order is still in effect. Scroll down and read the section that is titled Whistleblower Efforts, and after reading that section consider the following additional information.

The original protective order was issued based on the declaration to the judge in the 2007 court case (Montgomery v eTreppid Technologies) based on the declaration of then Director of National Intelligence John L. Negroponte, which you can read (and I recommend you read because there is simply no better way to comprehend what is really going on until you can parse the real from the spin on this issue) in the document linked below, beginning on page 96.

This is Dennis Montgomery's Declaration, attached to Mike Lindell's motion to intervene in the Montgomery v. eTreppid case in order to have the protective order lifted.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nvd.46642/gov.uscourts.nvd.46642.1216.2_2.pdf ( go to page 96 for DNI declaration)

However, there was a second presentation of secret information to the original judge in the case in 2007, the presentation was in camera (shown to the judge only by representatives of the US government) during which the judge was briefed and shown documentation not on the record nor to which either attorneys or plaintiff and defendant were shown. Now the judge is being asked to take the DoJs word 15 years later, without benefit of knowing now what the judge in 2007 knew, particularly since there is no record of the actual second secret presentation of the information provided the 2007 judge (maybe the documents could be produced again - but not record of the actual presentation, and that is problematic for the current judge).

Your next question...

So, how can the Montgomery gag order be lifted by the DoJ?

Gets to the spin Mike Lindell is putting on the DoJ memorandum. If the DoJ could lift the gag order, why would they have had to go a judge in the first place to have a gag order imposed.

What should be becoming clear is that nothing about this gag order business is what it appears to be.

The original case that all of this came out of was based on the unsuccessful attempt by Montgomery's then business partner, a guy named Trepp (hence eTreppid - a play on the word intrepid - to gain control of the all of Montgomery's proprietary software when Montgomery first balked when he found out what the government was really doing with his collection, exploitation and analysis software and systems. When Trepp, afraid Montgomery was going to break his (Trepp's) rice-bowl of government contracts, and that he (Trepp) could not buy out Montgomery, he (Trepp) brought a lawsuit to try and force the issue and get the technology through the courts.

Now there are lots of slimy corrupt strings Trepp pulled to put pressure on Montgomery, but one of the worst was being able to get Nevada officials to use the FBI to raid Montgomery's home in order to try and find and seize the really core and most valuable of the source code for various software applications.

Montgomery was able to prove that the FBI raid was based on lies and misrepresentations about who owned what by the original contracts of incorporation and was able to get the judge to order the return of everything the FBI had taken in the illegal raid - they never got the important stuff in the first place - and still have not returned everything seized in 2007 to this day.

Sound familiar?

Is this movie playing at your local theater?

Its called "Mar-a-Lago".

However, the protective order issued in connection with the 2007 case was never lifted (bad lawyering) and in 2010, the government showed up at a Montgomery bankruptcy proceeding (don't ask - but this is all smoke and mirrors too, having to do with how the 2007 case was settled and how Montgomery was protecting assets from ambulance-chasing vulture-identifying thug lawyers) and invoked the protective order stating Montgomery was still barred from revealing issues covered under the 2007 order.

There were some immunity negotiations in 2014 that is the next chapter / scene of this saga, in which Montgomery was allowed to give testimony as a whistleblower to Senate Intelligence Committee staff in exchange for finally turning over copies of the source code to the [FBI] that they had been after all along (insert here the backstory subplot of who, originally working through Trepp back in 2007, besides the [FBI], was working with Trepp to get all the good source code - told by a chain smoking nondescript heavily-wrinkled man of medium height and build and of no certain age in a faded grey suit). Somewhat beyond the scope of your question but it is a crucial part of the narrative as you will read later.

In June (I believe it was June) of 2021 Montgomery approached a court in Virginia where he had filed suit in 2017 against about anybody who was anybody in the Intelligence Community over alleged illegal spying on American citizens and government officials on a mass scale. See link below just to read the list of names of the defendants in that case...

https://regmedia.co.uk/2017/06/08/01-main.pdf

The 2021 Montgomery approach to the court over lifting the protective order (in connection with the 2017 lawsuit Montgomery v The Intelligence Community of the US of America - link just above) appears to have been tossed back to the District Court in Nevada, since that is the court of origination of the protective order. We have already discussed the current status of the protective order in the Nevada Court in regard to the motion and the DOJ memorandum.

However, before going back to the District Court in Nevada when there was no movement in the Virgina lawsuit - link just above), Mike Lindell purchased 80% interest in all things Dennis Montgomery and his technology and Lindell so now Lindell is the intervening petitioner in the 2007 Nevada case to have the Montgomery protective order lifted so that he, Lindell can use the 32 terabytes of PCAP collection proving foreign manipulation (vote flipping) of the 2020 election in the lawsuit filed against him by Dominion for defamation. Strategy for that move is that now the case has much more national attention than if just Montgomery had approached the District Court in Nevada and guys like me with no girlfriend can spend Friday nights reading old court cases.

So you see, it is not just about getting the protective order lifted so that Mike Lindell can use the PCAP collection data to defend himself in the defamation case against him by Dominion (see link below) ...

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/59670901/us-dominion-inc-v-my-pillow-inc/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

But so that Montgomery's case against the Intelligence Community in Virginia for mass spying on Americans can also go forward.

Here, watch this...

https://youtu.be/vJG698U2Mvo (1 min, 22 sec)

What everyone seems to be paying no attention to is the claim that in the PCAP data that Mike Lindell wants to first show the world and then use in his court case is the presence of an electronic marker that Dennis Montgomery had inserted into the software source code he was forced to turn over to the [FBI] in 2014, so that he would be allowed to provide behind-closed-doors testimony to the Senate Intelligence Committee staff about the mass spying on Americans conducted by the US government and its intelligence agencies.

I'll write it again. The PCAP data which proves foreign (a lot from China) manipulation of the 2020 election contains the electronic marker inserted into the source code of the software programs that Montgomery surrendered to the [FBI] in 2014.

"Lucy! You got some splainin to do!"

That is a bomb shell and the 900 lb gorilla dancing all around all these lawsuits and motions and protective orders, and Russia Russia Russia hoaxes... the Washington Merry-Go-Round is going around and around and when it stops, it is going to stop right in front of that electronic marker brass ring in the PCAP data.

"Secondly, the President has this authority."

Even if the President has the authority, there is a process, and Mike Lindell's story about the Oval Office meeting, and the lawyers, and the reporter taking a picture of him outside the West Wing of the White House with a memo in his hand that had the words "Martial Law" in it are just scripted scenes in the movie that is being filmed in real time right in front of our eyes every single day.

It also had the name of Mike Lindell's future lead attorney, Kurt Olsen, a former Navy SEAL, on it. What are the odds?

"Why didn't Trump remove it during his Administration?"

Personally, I think that screenplay script would have bombed in production. And if Trump had signed the Executive Order and lifted the protective order, where would we be in terms of waking up the nation to just how corrupt and rotten our government, the legislative (national and state and local), the executive (national and state and local) and judiciary (national and state and local) really are?

Its a plan to reach across generations, races, genders, religions, cultures, etc. to unite we the people in one common cause: Freedom and liberty for all.

A lot of brainwashing, conditioning and gaslighting to undue. Can you think of a better way for things to have turned out?

And its a world wide plan, not just an American plan.

Thirdly, if there is a gag order on this, then how did Mike Lindell learn of the details?

https://youtu.be/lRTtLvKAKgk?t=100

A lot of this is ambiguous at this point in time.

Hope the above adds some clarity and has addressed some of the ambiguity.

2 years ago
1 score
Reason: None provided.

"I'm not sure if my question was answered. It however doesn't sound like a DoJ Memorandum is the place a gag order due to the State's secrecy act can be lifted."

You are correct both technically and substantively. The DOJ memorandum only provides the judge (in this instance) with an informed opinion that a judge (since this is not the judge that promulgated the order in the first place) could use in making a decision (which has not been made to date) to lift or maintain the protective order currently in place.

The real back story here is not clear and is not clear on purpose. This rabbit hole

https://dennismontgomery.com/ and scroll down to Whistleblower Efforts

lets you know what Dennis Montgomery knows is the real reason the gag order is still in effect. Scroll down and read the section that is titled Whistleblower Efforts, and after reading that section consider the following additional information.

The original protective order was issued based on the declaration to the judge in the 2007 court case (Montgomery v eTreppid Technologies) based on the declaration of then Director of National Intelligence John L. Negroponte, which you can read (and I recommend you read because there is simply no better way to comprehend what is really going on until you can parse the real from the spin on this issue) in the document linked below, beginning on page 96.

This is Dennis Montgomery's Declaration, attached to Mike Lindell's motion to intervene in the Montgomery v. eTreppid case in order to have the protective order lifted.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nvd.46642/gov.uscourts.nvd.46642.1216.2_2.pdf ( go to page 96 for DNI declaration)

However, there was a second presentation of secret information to the original judge in the case in 2007, the presentation was in camera (shown to the judge only by representatives of the US government) during which the judge was briefed and shown documentation not on the record nor to which either attorneys or plaintiff and defendant were shown. Now the judge is being asked to take the DoJs word 15 years later, without benefit of knowing now what the judge in 2007 knew, particularly since there is no record of the actual second secret presentation of the information provided the 2007 judge (maybe the documents could be produced again - but not record of the actual presentation, and that is problematic for the current judge).

Your next question...

So, how can the Montgomery gag order be lifted by the DoJ?

Gets to the spin Mike Lindell is putting on the DoJ memorandum. If the DoJ could lift the gag order, why would they have had to go a judge in the first place to have a gag order imposed.

What should be becoming clear is that nothing about this gag order business is what it appears to be.

The original case that all of this came out of was based on the unsuccessful attempt by Montgomery's then business partner, a guy named Trepp (hence eTreppid - a play on the word intrepid - to gain control of the all of Montgomery's proprietary software when Montgomery first balked when he found out what the government was really doing with his collection, exploitation and analysis software and systems. When Trepp, afraid Montgomery was going to break his (Trepp's) rice-bowl of government contracts, and that he (Trepp) could not buy out Montgomery, he (Trepp) brought a lawsuit to try and force the issue and get the technology through the courts.

Now there are lots of slimy corrupt strings Trepp pulled to put pressure on Montgomery, but one of the worst was being able to get Nevada officials to use the FBI to raid Montgomery's home in order to try and find and seize the really core and most valuable of the source code for various software applications.

Montgomery was able to prove that the FBI raid was based on lies and misrepresentations about who owned what by the original contracts of incorporation and was able to get the judge to order the return of everything the FBI had taken in the illegal raid - they never got the important stuff in the first place - and still have not returned everything seized in 2007 to this day.

Sound familiar?

Is this movie playing at your local theater?

Its called "Mar-a-Lago".

However, the protective order issued in connection with the 2007 case was never lifted (bad lawyering) and in 2010, the government showed up at a Montgomery bankruptcy proceeding (don't ask - but this is all smoke and mirrors too, having to do with how the 2007 case was settled and how Montgomery was protecting assets from ambulance-chasing vulture-identifying thug lawyers) and invoked the protective order stating Montgomery was still barred from revealing issues covered under the 2007 order.

There were some immunity negotiations in 2014 that is the next chapter / scene of this saga, in which Montgomery was allowed to give testimony as a whistleblower to Senate Intelligence Committee staff in exchange for finally turning over copies of the source code to the [FBI] that they had been after all along (insert here the backstory subplot of who, originally working through Trepp back in 2007, besides the [FBI], was working with Trepp to get all the good source code - told by a chain smoking nondescript heavily-wrinkled man of medium height and build and of no certain age in a faded grey suit). Somewhat beyond the scope of your question but it is a crucial part of the narrative as you will read later.

In June (I believe it was June) of 2021 Montgomery approached a court in Virginia where he had filed suit in 2017 against about anybody who was anybody in the Intelligence Community over alleged illegal spying on American citizens and government officials on a mass scale. See link below just to read the list of names of the defendants in that case...

https://regmedia.co.uk/2017/06/08/01-main.pdf

The 2021 Montgomery approach to the court over lifting the protective order (in connection with the 2017 lawsuit Montgomery v The Intelligence Community of the US of America - link just above) appears to have been tossed back to the District Court in Nevada, since that is the court of origination of the protective order. We have already discussed the current status of the protective order in the Nevada Court in regard to the motion and the DOJ memorandum.

However, before going back to the District Court in Nevada when there was no movement in the Virgina lawsuit - link just above), Mike Lindell purchased 80% interest in all things Dennis Montgomery and his technology and Lindell so now Lindell is the intervening petitioner in the 2007 Nevada case to have the Montgomery protective order lifted so that he, Lindell can use the 32 terabytes of PCAP collection proving foreign manipulation (vote flipping) of the 2020 election in the lawsuit filed against him by Dominion for defamation. Strategy for that move is that now the case has much more national attention than if just Montgomery had approached the District Court in Nevada and guys like me with no girlfriend can spend Friday nights reading old court cases.

So you see, it is not just about getting the protective order lifted so that Mike Lindell can use the PCAP collection data to defend himself in the defamation case against him by Dominion (see link below) ...

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/59670901/us-dominion-inc-v-my-pillow-inc/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

But so that Montgomery's case against the Intelligence Community in Virginia for mass spying on Americans can also go forward.

Here, watch this...

https://youtu.be/vJG698U2Mvo (1 min, 22 sec)

What everyone seems to be paying no attention to is the claim that in the PCAP data that Mike Lindell wants to first show the world and then use in his court case is the presence of an electronic marker that Dennis Montgomery had inserted into the software source code he was forced to turn over to the [FBI] in 2014, so that he would be allowed to provide behind-closed-doors testimony to the Senate Intelligence Committee staff about the mass spying on Americans conducted by the US government and its intelligence agencies.

I'll write it again. The PCAP data which proves foreign (a lot from China) manipulation of the 2020 election contains the electronic marker inserted into the source code of the software programs that Montgomery surrendered to the [FBI] in 2014.

"Lucy! You got some splainin to do!"

That is a bomb shell and the 900 lb gorilla dancing all around all these lawsuits and motions and protective orders, and Russia Russia Russia hoaxes... the Washington Merry-Go-Round is going around and around and when it stops, it is going to stop right in front of that electronic marker brass ring in the PCAP data.

"Secondly, the President has this authority."

Even if the President has the authority, there is a process, and Mike Lindell's story about the Oval Office meeting, and the lawyers, and the reporter taking a picture of him outside the West Wing of the White House with a memo in his hand that had the words "Martial Law" on are just scripted scenes in the movie that is being filmed in real time in right in front of our eyes every single day.

It also had the name of Mike Lindell's lead attorney, a former Navy SEAL, on it. What are the odds?

"Why didn't Trump remove it during his Administration?"

Personally, I think that screenplay script would have bombed in production. And if he had signed the Executive Order and lifted the protective order, where would we be in terms of waking up the nation to just how corrupt and rotten our government, the legislative (national and state and local), the executive (national and state and local) and judiciary (national and state and local) really are? Its a plan to reach across generations, races, genders, religions, cultures, etc. to unite we the people in one common cause: Freedom and liberty for all.
A lot of brainwashing and gaslighting to undue. Can you think of a better way for things to have turned out. And its a world wide plan, not just an American plan.

Thirdly, if there is a gag order on this, then how did Mike Lindell learn of the details?

https://youtu.be/lRTtLvKAKgk?t=100

A lot of this is ambiguous at this point in time.

Hope the above adds some clarity and has addressed some of the ambiguity.

2 years ago
1 score
Reason: None provided.

"I'm not sure if my question was answered. It however doesn't sound like a DoJ Memorandum is the place a gag order due to the State's secrecy act can be lifted."

You are correct both technically and substantively. The DOJ memorandum only provides the judge (in this instance) with an informed opinion that a judge (since this is not the judge that promulgated the order in the first place) could use in making a decision (which has not been made to date) to lift or maintain the protective order currently in place.

The real back story here is not clear and is not clear on purpose. This rabbit hole

https://dennismontgomery.com/ and scroll down to Whistleblower Efforts

lets you know what Dennis Montgomery knows is the real reason the gag order is still in effect. Scroll down and read the section that is titled Whistleblower Efforts, and after reading that section consider the following additional information.

The original protective order was issued based on the declaration to the judge in the 2007 court case (Montgomery v eTreppid Technologies) based on the declaration of then Director of National Intelligence John L. Negroponte, which you can read (and I recommend you read because there is simply no better way to comprehend what is really going on until you can parse the real from the spin on this issue) in the document linked below, beginning on page 96.

This is Dennis Montgomery's Declaration, attached to Mike Lindell's motion to intervene in the Montgomery v. eTreppid case in order to have the protective order lifted.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nvd.46642/gov.uscourts.nvd.46642.1216.2_2.pdf ( go to page 96 for DNI declaration)

However, there was a second presentation of secret information to the original judge in the case in 2007, the presentation was in camera (shown to the judge only by representatives of the US government) during which the judge was briefed and shown documentation not on the record nor to which either attorneys or plaintiff and defendant were shown. Now the judge is being asked to take the DoJs word 15 years later, without benefit of knowing now what the judge in 2007 knew, particularly since there is no record of the actual second secret presentation of the information provided the 2007 judge (maybe the documents could be produced again - but not record of the actual presentation, and that is problematic for the current judge).

Your next question...

So, how can the Montgomery gag order be lifted by the DoJ?

Gets to the spin Mike Lindell is putting on the DoJ memorandum. If the DoJ could lift the gag order, why would they have had to go a judge in the first place to have a gag order imposed.

What should be becoming clear is that nothing about this gag order business is what it appears to be.

The original case that all of this came out of was based on the unsuccessful attempt by Montgomery's then business partner, a guy named Trepp (hence eTreppid - a play on the word intrepid - to gain control of the all of Montgomery's proprietary software when Montgomery first balked when he found out what the government was really doing with his collection, exploitation and analysis software and systems. When Trepp, afraid Montgomery was going to break his (Trepp's) rice-bowl of government contracts, and that he (Trepp) could not buy out Montgomery, he (Trepp) brought a lawsuit to try and force the issue and get the technology through the courts.

Now there are lots of slimy corrupt strings Trepp pulled to put pressure on Montgomery, but one of the worst was being able to get Nevada officials to use the FBI to raid Montgomery's home in order to try and find and seize the really core and most valuable of the source code for various software applications.

Montgomery was able to prove that the FBI raid was based on lies and misrepresentations about who owned what by the original contracts of incorporation and was able to get the judge to order the return of everything the FBI had taken in the illegal raid - they never got the important stuff in the first place - and still have not returned everything seized in 2007 to this day.

Sound familiar?

Is this movie playing at your local theater?

Its called "Mar-a-Lago".

However, the protective order issued in connection with the 2007 case was never lifted (bad lawyering) and in 2010, the government showed up at a Montgomery bankruptcy proceeding (don't ask - but this is all smoke and mirrors too, having to do with how the 2007 case was settled and how Montgomery was protecting assets from ambulance-chasing vulture-identifying thug lawyers) and invoked the protective order stating Montgomery was still barred from revealing issues covered under the 2007 order.

There were some immunity negotiations in 2014 that is the next chapter / scene of this saga, in which Montgomery was allowed to give testimony as a whistleblower to Senate Intelligence Committee staff in exchange for finally turning over copies of the source code to the [FBI] that they had been after all along (insert here the backstory subplot of who, originally working through Trepp back in 2007, besides the [FBI], was working with Trepp to get all the good source code - told by a chain smoking nondescript heavily-wrinkled man of medium height and build and of no certain age in a faded grey suit). Somewhat beyond the scope of your question but it is a crucial part of the narrative as you will read later.

In June (I believe it was June) of 2021 Montgomery approached a court in Virginia where he had filed suit in 2017 against about anybody who was anybody in the Intelligence Community over alleged illegal spying on American citizens and government officials on a mass scale. See link below just to read the list of names of the defendants in that case...

https://regmedia.co.uk/2017/06/08/01-main.pdf

The 2021 Montgomery approach to the court over lifting the protective order (in connection with the 2017 lawsuit Montgomery v The Intelligence Community of the US of America) appears to have been tossed back to the District Court in Nevada Court, since it is the court of origination of the protective order. We have already discussed the current status of the protective order in the Nevada Court in regard to the motion and the DOJ memorandum.

However, before going back to the District Court in Nevada, Mike Lindell purchased 80% interest in all things Dennis Montgomery and his technology and Lindell is the petitioner to have the Montgomery protective order lifted so that he, Lindell can use the 32 terabytes of PCAP collection proving foreign manipulation (vote flipping) of the 2020 election. Now the case has much more national attention than if just Montgomery had approached the District Court in Nevada.

So you see, it is not just about getting the protective order lifted so that Mike Lindell can use the PCAP collection to defend himself in the defamation case against him by Dominion (see link below) ...

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/59670901/us-dominion-inc-v-my-pillow-inc/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

But so that Montgomery's case against the Intelligence Community for mass spying on Americans can also go forward.

Here, watch this...

https://youtu.be/vJG698U2Mvo (1 min, 22 sec)

What everyone seems to be paying no attention to is the claim that in the PCAP data that Mike Lindell wants to first show the world and then use in his court case the presence of an electronic marker that Dennis Montgomery had inserted into the software source code he was forced to turn over to the FBI in 2014, so that he would be allowed to provide behind-closed-doors testimony to the Senate Intelligence Committee staff about the mass spying on Americans conducted by the US government and its intelligence agencies.

I'll write it again, the PCAP data which proves foreign (a lot from China) manipulation of the 2020 election contains the electronic marker inserted into the source code of the software programs that Montgomery surrendered to the FBI in 2014.

That is a bomb shell and the 900 lb gorilla dancing all around all these lawsuits and motions and protective orders, and Russia Russia Russian hoaxes... the Washington Merry-Go-Round is going around and around and when it stops, it is going to stop right in front of that electronic marker brass ring in the PCAP data.

"Secondly, the President has this authority."

Even if the President has the authority, there is a process, and Mike Lindell's story about the Oval Office meeting, and the lawyers, and the reporter taking a picture of him outside the West Wing of the White House with a memo in his hand that had the words "Martial Law" on are just scripted scenes in the movie that is being filmed in real time in right in front of our eyes every single day.

It also had the name of Mike Lindell's lead attorney, a former Navy SEAL, on it. What are the odds?

"Why didn't Trump remove it during his Administration?"

Personally, I think that screenplay script would have bombed in production. And if he had signed the Executive Order and lifted the protective order, where would we be in terms of waking up the nation to just how corrupt and rotten our government, the legislative (national and state and local), the executive (national and state and local) and judiciary (national and state and local) really are? Its a plan to reach across generations, races, genders, religions, cultures, etc. to unite we the people in one common cause: Freedom and liberty for all.
A lot of brainwashing and gaslighting to undue. Can you think of a better way for things to have turned out. And its a world wide plan, not just an American plan.

Thirdly, if there is a gag order on this, then how did Mike Lindell learn of the details?

https://youtu.be/lRTtLvKAKgk?t=100

A lot of this is ambiguous at this point in time.

Hope the above adds some clarity and has addressed some of the ambiguity.

2 years ago
1 score
Reason: None provided.

"I'm not sure if my question was answered. It however doesn't sound like a DoJ Memorandum is the place a gag order due to the State's secrecy act can be lifted."

You are correct both technically and substantively. The DOJ memorandum only provides the judge (in this instance) with an informed opinion that a judge (since this is not the judge that promulgated the order in the first place) could use in making a decision (which has not been made to date) to lift or maintain the protective order currently in place.

The real back story here is not clear and is not clear on purpose. This rabbit hole

https://dennismontgomery.com/ and scroll down to Whistleblower Efforts

lets you know what Dennis Montgomery knows is the real reason the gag order is still in effect. Scroll down and read the section that is titled Whistleblower Efforts, and after reading that section consider the following additional information.

The original protective order was issued based on the declaration to the judge in the 2007 court case (Montgomery v eTreppid Technologies) based on the declaration of then Director of National Intelligence John L. Negroponte, which you can read (and I recommend you read because there is simply no better way to comprehend what is really going on until you can parse the real from the spin on this issue) in the document linked below, beginning on page 96.

This is Dennis Montgomery's Declaration, attached to Mike Lindell's motion to intervene in the Montgomery v. eTreppid case in order to have the protective order lifted.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nvd.46642/gov.uscourts.nvd.46642.1216.2_2.pdf ( go to page 96 for DNI declaration)

However, there was a second presentation of secret information to the original judge in the case in 2007, the presentation was in camera (shown to the judge only by representatives of the US government) during which the judge was briefed and shown documentation not on the record nor to which either attorneys or plaintiff and defendant were shown. Now the judge is being asked to take the DoJs word 15 years later, without benefit of knowing now what the judge in 2007 knew, particularly since there is no record of the actual second secret presentation of the information provided the 2007 judge (maybe the documents could be produced again - but not record of the actual presentation, and that is problematic for the current judge).

Your next question...

So, how can the Montgomery gag order be lifted by the DoJ?

Gets to the spin Mike Lindell is putting on the DoJ memorandum. If the DoJ could lift the gag order, why would they have had to go a judge in the first place to have a gag order imposed.

What should be becoming clear is that nothing about this gag order business is what it appears to be.

The original case that all of came out of was based on the unsuccessful attempt by Montgomery's then business partner, a guy named Trepp (hence eTreppid - a play on the word intrepid - to gain control of the all of Montgomery's proprietary software when Montgomery first balked when he found out what the government was really doing with his collection, exploitation and analysis software and systems. When Trepp, afraid Montgomery was going to break his (Trepp's) rice-bowl of government contracts, and that he (Trepp) could not buy out Montgomery, Trepp brought a lawsuit to try and force the issue and get the technology through the courts.

Now there are lots of slimy corrupt strings Trepp pulled to put pressure on Montgomery, but one of the worst was being able to get Nevada officials to use the FBI to raid Montgomery's home in order to try and find and seize the really core and most valuable of the source code for various software applications.

Montgomery was able to prove that the FBI raid was based on lies and misrepresentations about who owned what by the original contracts of incorporation and was able to get the judge to order the return of everything the FBI had taken in the illegal raid - they never got the important stuff in the first place - and still have not returned everything seized in 2007 to this day.

Sound familiar?

Is this movie playing at your local theater?

Its called "Mar-a-Lago".

However, the protective order issued in connection with the 2007 case was never lifted (bad lawyering) and in 2010, the government showed up at a Montgomery bankruptcy proceeding (don't ask - but this is all smoke and mirrors too, having to do with how the 2007 case was settle and how Montgomery was protecting assets from ambulance-chasing vulture-identifying thug lawyers) and invoked the protective order stating Montgomery was still barred from revealing issues covered under the 2007 order.

There were some immunity negotiations in 2014 that is the next chapter of this saga, in which Montgomery was allowed to give testimony as a whistleblower to Senate Intelligence Committee staff in exchange for finally turning over copies of the source code the government has been after all along. Somewhat beyond the scope of your question but it is a crucial part of the narrative as you will read later.

In June (I believe it was June) of 2021 Montgomery approached a court in Virginia where he had filed suit in 2017 against about anybody who was anybody in the Intelligence Community over alleged illegal spying on American citizens and government officials on a mass scale. See link below just to read the list of names of the defendants in that case...

https://regmedia.co.uk/2017/06/08/01-main.pdf

The 2021 Montgomery approach to the court over lifting the protective order (in connection with the 2017 lawsuit Montgomery v The Intelligence Community of the US of America) appears to have been tossed back to the District Court in Nevada Court, since it is the court of origination of the protective order. We have already discussed the current status of the protective order in the Nevada Court in regard to the motion and the DOJ memorandum.

However, before going back to the District Court in Nevada, Mike Lindell purchased 80% interest in all things Dennis Montgomery and his technology and Lindell is the petitioner to have the Montgomery protective order lifted so that he, Lindell can use the 32 terabytes of PCAP collection proving foreign manipulation (vote flipping) of the 2020 election. Now the case has much more national attention than if just Montgomery had approached the District Court in Nevada.

So you see, it is not just about getting the protective order lifted so that Mike Lindell can use the PCAP collection to defend himself in the defamation case against him by Dominion (see link below) ...

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/59670901/us-dominion-inc-v-my-pillow-inc/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

But so that Montgomery's case against the Intelligence Community for mass spying on Americans can also go forward.

Here, watch this...

https://youtu.be/vJG698U2Mvo (1 min, 22 sec)

What everyone seems to be paying no attention to is the claim that in the PCAP data that Mike Lindell wants to first show the world and then use in his court case the presence of an electronic marker that Dennis Montgomery had inserted into the software source code he was forced to turn over to the FBI in 2014, so that he would be allowed to provide behind-closed-doors testimony to the Senate Intelligence Committee staff about the mass spying on Americans conducted by the US government and its intelligence agencies.

I'll write it again, the PCAP data which proves foreign (a lot from China) manipulation of the 2020 election contains the electronic marker inserted into the source code of the software programs that Montgomery surrendered to the FBI in 2014.

That is a bomb shell and the 900 lb gorilla dancing all around all these lawsuits and motions and protective orders, and Russia Russia Russian hoaxes... the Washington Merry-Go-Round is going around and around and when it stops, it is going to stop right in front of that electronic marker brass ring in the PCAP data.

"Secondly, the President has this authority."

Even if the President has the authority, there is a process, and Mike Lindell's story about the Oval Office meeting, and the lawyers, and the reporter taking a picture of him outside the West Wing of the White House with a memo in his hand that had the words "Martial Law" on are just scripted scenes in the movie that is being filmed in real time in right in front of our eyes every single day.

It also had the name of Mike Lindell's lead attorney, a former Navy SEAL, on it. What are the odds?

"Why didn't Trump remove it during his Administration?"

Personally, I think that screenplay script would have bombed in production. And if he had signed the Executive Order and lifted the protective order, where would we be in terms of waking up the nation to just how corrupt and rotten our government, the legislative (national and state and local), the executive (national and state and local) and judiciary (national and state and local) really are? Its a plan to reach across generations, races, genders, religions, cultures, etc. to unite we the people in one common cause: Freedom and liberty for all.
A lot of brainwashing and gaslighting to undue. Can you think of a better way for things to have turned out. And its a world wide plan, not just an American plan.

Thirdly, if there is a gag order on this, then how did Mike Lindell learn of the details?

https://youtu.be/lRTtLvKAKgk?t=100

A lot of this is ambiguous at this point in time.

Hope the above adds some clarity and has addressed some of the ambiguity.

2 years ago
1 score
Reason: None provided.

"I'm not sure if my question was answered. It however doesn't sound like a DoJ Memorandum is the place a gag order due to the State's secrecy act can be lifted."

You are correct both technically and substantively. The DOJ memorandum only provides the judge (in this instance) with an informed opinion that a judge (since this is not the judge that promulgated the order in the first place) could use in making a decision (which has not been made to date) to lift or maintain the protective order currently in place.

The real back story here is not clear and is not clear on purpose. This rabbit hole

https://dennismontgomery.com/ and scroll down to Whistleblower Efforts

lets you know what Dennis Montgomery knows is the real reason the gag order is still in effect. Scroll down and read the section that is titled Whistleblower Efforts, and after reading that section consider the following additional information.

The original protective order was issued based on the declaration to the judge in the 2007 court case (Montgomery v eTreppid Technologies) based on the declaration of then Director of National Intelligence John L. Negroponte, which you can read (and I recommend you read because there is simply no better way to comprehend what is really going on until you can parse the real from the spin on this issue) in the document linked below, beginning on page 96.

This is Dennis Montgomery's Declaration, attached to Mike Lindell's motion to intervene in the Montgomery v. eTreppid case in order to have the protective order lifted.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nvd.46642/gov.uscourts.nvd.46642.1216.2_2.pdf ( go to page 96 for DNI declaration)

However, there was a second presentation of secret information to the original judge in the case in 2007, the presentation was in camera (shown to the judge only by representatives of the US government) during which the judge was briefed and shown documentation not on the record nor to which either attorneys or plaintiff and defendant were shown. Now the judge is being asked to take the DoJs word 15 years later, without benefit of knowing now what the judge in 2007 knew, particularly since there is no record of the actual second secret presentation of the information provided the 2007 judge (maybe the documents could be produced again - but not record of the actual presentation, and that is problematic for the current judge).

Your next question...

So, how can the Montgomery gag order be lifted by the DoJ?

Gets to the spin Mike Lindell is putting on the DoJ memorandum. If the DoJ could lift the gag order, why would they have had to go a judge in the first place to have a gag order imposed.

What should be becoming clear is that nothing about this gag order business is what it appears to be.

The original case that all of came out of was based on the unsuccessful attempt by Montgomery's then business partner, a guy named Trepp (hence eTreppid - a play on the word intrepid - to gain control of the all of Montgomery's proprietary software when Montgomery first balked when he found out what the government was really doing with his collection, exploitation and analysis software and systems. When Trepp, afraid Montgomery was going to break his (Trepp's) rice-bowl of government contracts, and that he (Trepp) could not buy out Montgomery, Trepp brought a lawsuit to try and force the issue and get the technology through the courts.

Now there are lots of slimy corrupt strings Trepp pulled to put pressure on Montgomery, but one of the worst was being able to get Nevada officials to use the FBI to raid Montgomery's home in order to try and find and seize the really core and most valuable of the source code for various software applications.

Montgomery was able to prove that the FBI raid was based on lies and misrepresentations about who owned what by the original contracts of incorporation and was able to get the judge to order the return of everything the FBI had taken in the illegal raid - they never got the important stuff in the first place - and still have not returned everything seized in 2007 to this day.

Sound familiar?

Is this movie playing at your local theater?

Its called "Mar-a-Lago".

However, the protective order issued in connection with the 2007 case was never lifted (bad lawyering) and in 2010, the government showed up at a Montgomery bankruptcy proceeding (don't ask - but this is all smoke and mirrors too, having to do with how the 2007 case was settle and how Montgomery was protecting assets from ambulance-chasing vulture-identifying thug lawyers) and invoked the protective order stating Montgomery was still barred from revealing issues covered under the 2007 order.

There were some immunity negotiations in 2014 that is the next chapter of this saga, in which Montgomery was allowed to give testimony as a whistleblower to Senate Intelligence Committee staff in exchange for finally turning over copies of the source code the government has been after all along. Somewhat beyond the scope of your question but it is a crucial part of the narrative as you will read later.

In June (I believe it was June) of 2021 Montgomery approached a court in Virginia where he had filed suit in 2017 against about anybody who was anybody in the Intelligence Community over alleged illegal spying on American citizens and government officials on a mass scale. See link below just to read the list of names of the defendants in that case...

https://regmedia.co.uk/2017/06/08/01-main.pdf

The 2021 Montgomery approach to the court over lifting the protective order (in connection with the 2017 lawsuit Montgomery v The Intelligence Community of the US of America) appears to have been tossed back to the District Court in Nevada Court, since it is the court of origination of the protective order. We have already discussed the current status of the protective order in the Nevada Court in regard to the motion and the DOJ memorandum.

However, before going back to the District Court in Nevada, Mike Lindell purchased 80% interest in all things Dennis Montgomery and his technology and Lindell is the petitioner to have the Montgomery protective order lifted so that he, Lindell can use the 32 terabytes of PCAP collection proving foreign manipulation (vote flipping) of the 2020 election. Now the case has much more national attention than if just Montgomery had approached the District Court in Nevada.

So you see, it is not just about getting the protective order lifted so that Mike Lindell can use the PCAP collection to defend himself in the defamation case against him by Dominion (see link below) ...

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/59670901/us-dominion-inc-v-my-pillow-inc/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

But so that Montgomery's case against the Intelligence Community for mass spying on Americans can also go forward.

Here, watch this...

https://youtu.be/vJG698U2Mvo (1 min, 22 sec)

What everyone seems to be paying no attention to is the claim that in the PCAP data that Mike Lindell wants to first show the world and then use in his court case is evidence of an electronic marker Dennis Montgomery inserted into the software source code he was forced to turn over to the FBI in 2014, so that he would be allowed to provide behind-closed-doors testimony to the staff of the Senate Intelligence Committee about the mass spying on Americans conducted by the US government and its intelligence agencies.

I'll write it again, the PCAP data which proves foreign (a lot from China) manipulation of the 2020 election contains the electronic marker inserted into the source code of the software programs that Montgomery surrendered to the FBI in 2014. That is a bomb shell and the 900 lb gorilla dancing all around all these lawsuits and motions and protective orders, and Russia Russia Russian hoaxes... the Washington Merry-Go-Round is going around and around and when it stops, it is going to stop right in front of that electronic marker in the PCAP data.

"Secondly, the President has this authority."

Even if the President has the authority, there is a process, and Mike Lindell's story about the Oval Office meeting, and the lawyers, and the reporter taking a picture of him outside the West Wing of the White House with a memo in his hand that has the words "Martial Law" on are just scripted scenes in the movie that is being filmed in real time in right in front of our eyes every single day.

"Why didn't Trump remove it during his Administration?"

Personally, I think that screenplay script would have bombed in production. And if he had signed the Executive Order and lifted the protective order, where would we be in terms of waking up the nation to just how corrupt and rotten our government, the legislative (national and state and local), the executive (national and state and local) and judiciary (national and state and local) really are? Its a plan to reach across generations, races, genders, religions, cultures, etc. to unite we the people in one common cause: Freedom and liberty for all.
All lot of brainwashing and gaslighting to undue. Can you think of a better way for things to have turned out. And its a world wide plant, not just an American plan.

Thirdly, if there is a gag order on this, then how did Mike Lindell learn of the details?

https://youtu.be/lRTtLvKAKgk?t=100

A lot of this is ambiguous at this point in time.

Hope the above adds some clarity and has addressed some of the ambiguity.

2 years ago
1 score
Reason: Original

"I'm not sure if my question was answered. It however doesn't sound like a DoJ Memorandum is the place a gag order due to the State's secrecy act can be lifted."

You are correct both technically and substantively. The DOJ memorandum only provides the judge (in this instance) with an informed opinion that a judge (since this is not the judge that promulgated the order in the first place) could use in making a decision (which has not been made to date) to lift or maintain the protective order currently in place.

The real back story here is not clear and is not clear on purpose. This rabbit hole

https://dennismontgomery.com/ and scroll down to Whistleblower Efforts

lets you know what Dennis Montgomery knows is the real reason the gag order is still in effect. Scroll down and read the section that is titled Whistleblower Efforts, and after reading that section consider the following additional information.

The original protective order was issued based on the declaration to the judge in the 2007 court case (Montgomery v eTreppid Technologies) based on the declaration of then Director of National Intelligence John L. Negroponte, which you can read (and I recommend you read because there is simply no better way to comprehend what is really going on until you can parse the real from the spin on this issue) in the document linked below, beginning on page 96.

This is Dennis Montgomery's Declaration, attached to Mike Lindell's motion to intervene in the Montgomery v. eTreppid case in order to have the protective order lifted.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nvd.46642/gov.uscourts.nvd.46642.1216.2_2.pdf ( go to page 96 for DNI declaration)

However, there was a second presentation of secret information to the original judge in the case in 2007, the presentation was in camera (shown to the judge only by representatives of the US government) during which the judge was briefed and shown documentation not on the record nor to which either attorneys or plaintiff and defendant were shown. Now the judge is being asked to take the DoJs word 15 years later, without benefit on knowing now what the judge in 2007 knew, nor since there is not record of the actual presentation of the information provided the 2007 judge (maybe the documents could be produced again - but not record of the actual presentation, and that is problematic for the current judge).

So, your next question...

So, how can the Montgomery gag order be lifted by the DoJ?

Gets to the spin Mike Lindell is putting on the DoJ memorandum. If the DoJ could lift the gag order, why would they have had to a judge in the first place to have a gag order imposed.

What should be becoming clear is that nothing about this gag order business is what it appears to be.

The original case where this all came out of was based on the unsuccessful attempt by Montgomery's then business partner, a guy named Trepp (hence eTreppid - a play on the word intrepid - to gain control of the all of Montgomery's proprietary software when Montgomery first balked when he found out what the government was really doing with his collection and exploitation software and systems. When Trepp, afraid Montgomery was going to break his (Trepp's) rice-bowl of government contracts, and he could not buy out Montgomery, Trepp brought a lawsuit to force the issue and get the technology through the courts. Now there are lots of slimy corrupt strings Trepp pulled to put pressure on Montgomery, but one of the worst was being able to get the FBI to raid Montgomery's home in order to try and find and seize the really core and most valuable of the source code for various software applications. Montgomery was able to prove that the FBI raid was based on lies an misrepresentations about who owned what by the original contracts of incorporation and was able to get the judge to order return of everything the FBI had taken in the illegal raid - they never got the important stuff in the first place - and still have not returned everything seized in 2007 to this day.

However, the protective order issued in connection with the 2007 case was never lifted (bad lawyering) and in 2010, the government showed up at a Montgomery bankruptcy proceeding (don't ask - but this is all smoke and mirrors too having to do with how the 2007 case was settle and how Montgomery was protecting assets from ambulance chasing vulture identifying thug lawyers) and invoked the protective order stating Montgomery was still barred from revealing issues covered under the 2007 order.

There were some immunity negotiations in 2014 that is the next chapter of this saga, in which Montgomery was allowed to give testimony as a whistleblower in exchange for finally turning over copies of the source code the government has been after all along. Somewhat beyond the scope of your question but peripheral enough to include in this timeline.

In June (I believe it was June) of 2021 Montgomery approached a court in Virginia where he had filed suit in 2017 against about anybody who was anybody in the Intelligence Community over alleged illegal spying on American citizens and government officials on a mass scale. See link below just to read the list of names of the defendants in that case...

https://regmedia.co.uk/2017/06/08/01-main.pdf

The 2021 approach to the court over lifting the protective order (in connection with the 2017 lawsuit Montgomery v The Intelligence Community of the US of America) appears to have been tossed back to the District Court in Nevada Court since it is the court of origination of the protective order. We have already discussed the status of the Nevada Court in regard to the motion and the DOJ memorandum.

However, before going back to the District Court in Nevada, Mike Lindell purchased 80% interest in all things Dennis Montgomery and his technology and Lindell is the petitioner to have the Montgomery protective order lifted so that he, Lindell can use the 32 terabytes of PCAP collection proving foreign manipulation (vote flipping) of the 2020 election. Now the case has much more national attention than if just Montgomery had approached the District Court in Nevada.

So you see, it is not just about getting the protective order lifted so that Mike Lindell can use the PCAP collection to defend himself in the defamation case against him by Dominion (see link below) ...

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/59670901/us-dominion-inc-v-my-pillow-inc/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

But so that Montgomery's case against the Intelligence Community for mass spying on Americans can also go forward.

Here, watch this...

https://youtu.be/vJG698U2Mvo (1 min, 22 sec)

What everyone seems to be paying no attention to is the claim that in the PCAP data that Mike Lindell wants to first show the world and then use in his court case is evidence of an electronic marker Dennis Montgomery inserted into the software source code he was forced to turn over to the FBI in 2014, so that he would be allowed to provide behind-closed-doors testimony to the staff of the Senate Intelligence Committee about the mass spying on Americans conducted by the US government and its intelligence agencies.

I'll write it again, the PCAP data which proves foreign (a lot from China) manipulation of the 2020 election contains the electronic marker inserted into the source code of the software programs that Montgomery surrendered to the FBI in 2014. That is a bomb shell and the 900 lb gorilla dancing all around all these lawsuits and motions and protective orders, and Russia Russia Russian hoaxes... the Washington Merry-Go-Round is going around and around and when it stops, it is going to stop right in front of that electronic marker in the PCAP data.

"Secondly, the President has this authority."

Even if the President has the authority, there is a process, and Mike Lindell's story about the Oval Office meeting, and the lawyers, and the reporter taking a picture of him outside the West Wing of the White House with a memo in his hand that has the words "Martial Law" on are just scripted scenes in the movie that is being filmed in real time in right in front of our eyes every single day.

"Why didn't Trump remove it during his Administration?"

Personally, I think that screenplay script would have bombed in production. And if he had signed the Executive Order and lifted the protective order, where would we be in terms of waking up the nation to just how corrupt and rotten our government, the legislative (national and state and local), the executive (national and state and local) and judiciary (national and state and local) really are? Its a plan to reach across generations, races, genders, religions, cultures, etc. to unite we the people in one common cause: Freedom and liberty for all.
All lot of brainwashing and gaslighting to undue. Can you think of a better way for things to have turned out. And its a world wide plant, not just an American plan.

Thirdly, if there is a gag order on this, then how did Mike Lindell learn of the details?

https://youtu.be/lRTtLvKAKgk?t=100

A lot of this is ambiguous at this point in time.

Hope the above adds some clarity and has addressed some of the ambiguity.

2 years ago
1 score