What I am actually saying is that things can be one way one day and change totally the next.
OK. It's a worthwhile point. I get what you are saying I think.
(I just think your example was a bit skewed! It took a much longer process to free the Israelites than one, three or even 40 days!!!)
But yes, things can look dark one minute and then be changed dramatically and miraculously the next!!! Like the Pharaoh bearing down on the Israelites one minute and then being crushed by the Red Sea the next, as you say. That's a good example! So keep faith!!!
On the 40 years thing, I am sure there are many different views about that was going on there.
My understanding is that God requires people to fulfill certain conditions in order to be able to bestow his blessing. If God simply gave his blessings without any condition on the part of the recipient, a) it would have no really value and b) Satan could just as easily claim the blessing as well.
The condition represents fulfillment of our responsibility. Our responsibility is a factor built in to our reaching maturity and fulfilling God's purpose for us.
Example: Adam and Eve had the responsibility to keep faith in God's commandment not to eat the fruit. Tragically, they failed so that "In Adam all die".
A command is God's word. God requires us to keep faith in His word in order to fulfill that condition to enable Him to Bless us.
Example: the condition we must make in order to receive the grace (blessing) of salvation is faith. We cannot be saved by the blood of the cross without faith in Jesus and salvation through the cross.
For the Israelites to qualify to enter into Canaan after having left Egypt, they needed to have faith in Moses as God's representative for a specific period of time. Very quickly, they failed. While Moses was on the mount receiving God's word for the Israelites in the form of the 10 commandments (setting his own condition of faith for 40 days), the Israelites needed to maintain their own faith in him. When they got Aaron to make the golden calf and they worshipped it, they lost faith in Moses (and God) and failed. Moreover, Moses himself even destroyed the 2 tablets (which represented Jesus and the Holy Spirit) in anger by losing his temper.
So, he had to make a completely new condition of keeping faith (fasting) for 40 days on the mount in order to receive the grace of the two tablets (the Word) again.
Time and time again, the Israelites lost faith during the journey to Canaan, and the journey time was extended eventually to 40 years! It less than 500 miles from Egypt to Canaan, and by walking, they could certainly have covered the distance in a 3 or 4 weeks. But, they failed in their faith again and again, until finally, the 2nd generation united with Joshua and Caleb in faith (Joshua and Caleb maintained their faith in God for the 40 days of spying in Canaan), and finally qualified to receive the blessing of entering Canaan.
(Moving from Egypt to Canaan symbolized leaving the Satanic world under Satan's dominion and entering the Godly world under God's governance. Through salvation of the cross, we move from the spiritual realm under Satan's dominion into the spiritual realm of God's governance.)
The recurrence of the numbers like 12, 40 etc, in their course is because there is a numerical period required in the process of growing or fulfilling responsibility. Just like there is a specific numerical period of time required for a person to reach adulthood, or a tree to mature and bear fruit. That's part of the structure of God's creation.
I'm guessing you have a different understanding of the why and the what, but that's my understanding, anyway.
Again, keep faith
Exactly! This is the key condition that God requires in order to bestow on us the blessing of spiritual salvation. However, I put to you that in the last days (where we are, imo) more than mere faith is required. What is required now is unity with God's direction in substance.
It's no good if someone professes to be Christian or to believe in Jesus if they unite with the Satanic agenda, and promote LGBTQI in their church, or push the injection globalist narrative, for example.
"In the last days the sun and the moon will be darkened" means that the beacon that faith is up until the last days will be superseded by the need to unite with Christ in substance, and if CHrist's purpose is to destroy the Satanic sovereignty and restore God's sovereignty over the Earth in the Last Days, unity with that is what will shine (imo).
IOW, in the last days, the condition required is substantial action in UNITY with God's purpose, not simply faith in that purpose. That's why Jesus predicted that "Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’"
How is this possible? Because from the time of the crucifiction until the end times, faith is the main condition in order to receive the grace and blessing. But in the end times, unity with God's purpose (aka "the will of My Father in Heaven") will become necessary too. Do you see what I mean?
What is God's will today? It is the destruction of the Satanic ruling system.
We are on the cusp of entering into the REAL Canaan. On the cusp of entering the REAL Kingdom. Not symbolically, and not just spiritually (where we have been for the last 2000 years), but in substance. Satan's system of dominion over the Earth is being exposed and destroyed, and God's governance over the Earth is being realized in actual substance, right here, right now. We are a blessed generation.
Hope the above makes some sense to you. You don't need to agree with it all (some of it may well seem very different from what you've known over the years), but hopefully it's thought provoking.
And why was that the punishment?. Major lesson to be learned there.
Can you share a bit what you think about that? What is the major lesson to be learned, do you think?
What I am actually saying is that things can be one way one day and change totally the next.
OK. It's a worthwhile point. I get what you are saying I think.
(I just think your example was a bit skewed! It took a much longer process to free the Israelites than one, three or even 40 days!!!)
But yes, things can look dark one minute and then be changed dramatically and miraculously the next!!! Like the Pharaoh bearing down on the Israelites one minute and then being crushed by the Red Sea the next, as you say. That's a good example! So keep faith!!!
On the 40 years thing, I am sure there are many different views about that was going on there.
My understanding is that God requires people to fulfill certain conditions in order to be able to bestow his blessing. If God simply gave his blessings without any condition on the part of the recipient, a) it would have no really value and b) Satan could just as easily claim the blessing as well.
The condition represents fulfillment of our responsibility. Our responsibility is a factor built in to our reaching maturity and fulfilling God's purpose for us.
Example: Adam and Eve had the responsibility to keep faith in God's commandment not to eat the fruit. Tragically, they failed so that "In Adam all die".
A command is God's word. God requires us to keep faith in His word in order to fulfill that condition to enable Him to Bless us.
Example: the condition we must make in order to receive the grace (blessing) of salvation is faith. We cannot be saved by the blood of the cross without faith in Jesus and salvation through the cross.
For the Israelites to qualify to enter into Canaan after having left Egypt, they needed to have faith in Moses as God's representative for a specific period of time. Very quickly, they failed. While Moses was on the mount receiving God's word for the Israelites in the form of the 10 commandments (setting his own condition of faith for 40 days), the Israelites needed to maintain their own faith in him. When they got Aaron to make the golden calf and they worshipped it, they lost faith in Moses (and God) and failed. Moreover, Moses himself even destroyed the 2 tablets (which represented Jesus and the Holy Spirit) in anger by losing his temper.
So, he had to make a completely new condition of keeping faith (fasting) for 40 days on the mount in order to receive the grace of the two tablets (the Word) again.
Time and time again, the Israelites lost faith during the journey to Canaan, and the journey time was extended eventually to 40 years! It less than 500 miles from Egypt to Canaan, and by walking, they could certainly have covered the distance in a 3 or 4 weeks. But, they failed in their faith again and again, until finally, the 2nd generation united with Joshua and Caleb in faith (Joshua and Caleb maintained their faith in God for the 40 days of spying in Canaan), and finally qualified to receive the blessing of entering Canaan.
(Moving from Egypt to Canaan symbolized leaving the Satanic world under Satan's dominion and entering the Godly world under God's governance. Through salvation of the cross, we move from the spiritual realm under Satan's dominion into the spiritual realm of God's governance.)
The recurrence of the numbers like 12, 40 etc, in their course is because there is a numerical period required in the process of growing or fulfilling responsibility. Just like there is a specific numerical period of time required for a person to reach adulthood, or a tree to mature and bear fruit. That's part of the structure of God's creation.
I'm guessing you have a different understanding of the why and the what, but that's my understanding, anyway.
Again, keep faith
Exactly! This is the key condition that God requires in order to bestow on us the blessing of spiritual salvation. However, I put to you that in the last days (where we are, imo) more than mere faith is required. What is required now is unity with God's direction in substance.
It's no good if someone professes to be Christian or to believe in Jesus if they unite with the Satanic agenda, and promote LGBTQI in their church, or push the injection globalist narrative, for example.
"In the last days the sun and the moon will be darkened" means that the beacon that faith is up until the last days will be superseded by the need to unite with Christ in substance, and if CHrist's purpose is to destroy the Satanic sovereignty and restore God's sovereignty over the Earth in the Last Days, unity with that is what will shine (imo).
IOW, in the last days, the condition required is substantial action in UNITY with God's purpose, not simply faith in that purpose. That's why Jesus predicted that "Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’"
How is this possible? Because from the time of the crucifiction until the end times, faith is the main condition in order to receive the grace and blessing. But in the end times, unity with God's purpose (aka "the will of My Father in Heaven") will become necessary too. Do you see what I mean?
What is God's will today? It is the destruction of the Satanic ruling system.
We are on the cusp of entering into the REAL Canaan. On the cusp of entering the REAL Kingdom. Not symbolically, and not just spiritually (where we have been for the last 2000 years), but in substance. Satan's system of dominion over the Earth is being exposed and destroyed, and God's governance over the Earth is being realized in actual substance, right here, right now. We are a blessed generation.
Hope the above makes some sense to you. You don't need to agree with it all (some of it may well seem very different from what you've known over the years), but hopefully it's thought provoking, and if it encourages you to grow in faith, then that's the win, right? (Just as your point about keeping faith, because God can change things in a wink of an eye, is on point!)
And why was that the punishment?. Major lesson to be learned there.
Can you share a bit what you think about that? What is the major lesson to be learned, do you think?
What I am actually saying is that things can be one way one day and change totally the next.
OK. It's a worthwhile point. I get what you are saying I think.
(I just think your example was a bit skewed! It took a much longer process to free the Israelites than one, three or even 40 days!!!)
But yes, things can look dark one minute and then be changed dramatically and miraculously the next!!! Like the Pharaoh bearing down on the Israelites one minute and then being crushed by the Red Sea the next, as you say. That's a good example! So keep faith!!!
On the 40 years thing, I am sure there are many different views about that was going on there.
My understanding is that God requires people to fulfill certain conditions in order to be able to bestow his blessing. If God simply gave his blessings without any condition on the part of the recipient, a) it would have no really value and b) Satan could just as easily claim the blessing as well.
The condition represents fulfillment of our responsibility. Our responsibility is a factor built in to our reaching maturity and fulfilling God's purpose for us.
Example: Adam and Eve had the responsibility to keep faith in God's commandment not to eat the fruit. Tragically, they failed so that "In Adam all die".
A command is God's word. God requires us to keep faith in His word in order to fulfill that condition to enable Him to Bless us.
Example: the condition we must make in order to receive the grace (blessing) of salvation is faith. We cannot be saved by the blood of the cross without faith in Jesus and salvation through the cross.
For the Israelites to qualify to enter into Canaan after having left Egypt, they needed to have faith in Moses as God's representative for a specific period of time. Very quickly, they failed. While Moses was on the mount receiving God's word for the Israelites in the form of the 10 commandments (setting his own condition of faith for 40 days), the Israelites needed to maintain their own faith in him. When they got Aaron to make the golden calf and they worshipped it, they lost faith in Moses (and God) and failed. Moreover, Moses himself even destroyed the 2 tablets (which represented Jesus and the Holy Spirit) in anger by losing his temper.
So, he had to make a completely new condition of keeping faith (fasting) for 40 days on the mount in order to receive the grace of the two tablets (the Word) again.
Time and time again, the Israelites lost faith during the journey to Canaan, and the journey time was extended eventually to 40 years! It less than 500 miles from Egypt to Canaan, and by walking, they could certainly have covered the distance in a 3 or 4 weeks. But, they failed in their faith again and again, until finally, the 2nd generation united with Joshua and Caleb in faith (Joshua and Caleb maintained their faith in God for the 40 days of spying in Canaan), and finally qualified to receive the blessing of entering Canaan.
(Moving from Egypt to Canaan symbolized leaving the Satanic world under Satan's dominion and entering the Godly world under God's governance. Through salvation of the cross, we move from the spiritual realm under Satan's dominion into the spiritual realm of God's governance.)
The recurrence of the numbers like 12, 40 etc, in their course is because there is a numerical period required in the process of growing or fulfilling responsibility. Just like there is a specific numerical period of time required for a person to reach adulthood, or a tree to mature and bear fruit. That's part of the structure of God's creation.
I'm guessing you have a different understanding of the why and the what, but that's my understanding, anyway.
Again, keep faith
Exactly! This is the key condition that God requires in order to bestow on us the blessing of spiritual salvation. However, I put to you that in the last days (where we are, imo) more than mere faith is required. What is required now is unity with God's direction in substance.
It's no good if someone professes to be Christian or to believe in Jesus if they unite with the Satanic agenda, and promote LGBTQI in their church, or push the injection globalist narrative, for example.
"In the last days the sun and the moon will be darkened" means that the beacon that faith is up until the last days will be superseded by the need to unite with Christ in substance, and if CHrist's purpose is to destroy the Satanic sovereignty and restore God's sovereignty over the Earth in the Last Days, unity with that is what will shine (imo).
IOW, in the last days, the condition required is substantial action in UNITY with God's purpose, not simply faith in that purpose. That's why Jesus predicted that "Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’"
How is this possible? Because from the time of the crucifiction until the end times, faith is the main condition in order to receive the grace and blessing. But in the end times, unity with God's purpose (aka "the will of My Father in Heaven") will become necessary too. Do you see what I mean?
What is God's will today? It is the destruction of the Satanic ruling system.
We are on the cusp of entering into the REAL Canaan. On the cusp of entering the REAL Kingdom. Not symbolically, and not just spiritually (where we have been for the last 2000 years), but in substance. Satan's system of dominion over the Earth is being exposed and destroyed, and God's governance over the Earth is being realized in actual substance, right here, right now. We are a blessed generation.
And why was that the punishment?. Major lesson to be learned there.
Can you share a bit what you think about that? What is the major lesson to be learned, do you think?
Hope the above makes some sense to you. You don't need to agree with it all (some of it may well seem very different from what you've known over the years), but hopefully it's thought provoking, and if it encourages you to grow in faith, then that's the win, right? (Just as your point about keeping faith, because God can change things in a wink of an eye, is on point!)
What I am actually saying is that things can be one way one day and change totally the next.
OK. It's a worthwhile point. I get what you are saying I think.
(I just think your example was a bit skewed! It took a much longer process to free the Israelites than one, three or even 40 days!!!)
But yes, things can look dark one minute and then be changed dramatically and miraculously the next!!! Like the Pharaoh bearing down on the Israelites one minute and then being crushed by the Red Sea the next, as you say. That's a good example! So keep faith!!!
On the 40 years thing, I am sure there are many different views about that was going on there.
My understanding is that God requires people to fulfill certain conditions in order to be able to bestow his blessing. If God simply gave his blessings without any condition on the part of the recipient, a) it would have no really value and b) Satan could just as easily claim the blessing as well.
The condition represents fulfillment of our responsibility. Our responsibility is a factor built in to our reaching maturity and fulfilling God's purpose for us.
Example: Adam and Eve had the responsibility to keep faith in God's commandment not to eat the fruit. Tragically, they failed so that "In Adam all die".
A command is God's word. God requires us to keep faith in His word in order to fulfill that condition to enable Him to Bless us.
Example: the condition we must make in order to receive the grace (blessing) of salvation is faith. We cannot be saved by the blood of the cross without faith in Jesus and salvation through the cross.
For the Israelites to qualify to enter into Canaan after having left Egypt, they needed to have faith in Moses as God's representative for a specific period of time. Very quickly, they failed. While Moses was on the mount receiving God's word for the Israelites in the form of the 10 commandments (setting his own condition of faith for 40 days), the Israelites needed to maintain their own faith in him. When they got Aaron to make the golden calf and they worshipped it, they lost faith in Moses (and God) and failed. Moreover, Moses himself even destroyed the 2 tablets (which represented Jesus and the Holy Spirit) in anger by losing his temper.
So, he had to make a completely new condition of keeping faith (fasting) for 40 days on the mount in order to receive the grace of the two tablets (the Word) again.
Time and time again, the Israelites lost faith during the journey to Canaan, and the journey time was extended eventually to 40 years! It less than 500 miles from Egypt to Canaan, and by walking, they could certainly have covered the distance in a 3 or 4 weeks. But, they failed in their faith again and again, until finally, the 2nd generation united with Joshua and Caleb in faith (Joshua and Caleb maintained their faith in God for the 40 days of spying in Canaan), and finally qualified to receive the blessing of entering Canaan.
(Moving from Egypt to Canaan symbolized leaving the Satanic world under Satan's dominion and entering the Godly world under God's governance. Through salvation of the cross, we move from the spiritual realm under Satan's dominion into the spiritual realm of God's governance.)
The recurrence of the numbers like 12, 40 etc, in their course is because there is a numerical period required in the process of growing or fulfilling responsibility. Just like there is a specific numerical period of time required for a person to reach adulthood, or a tree to mature and bear fruit. That's part of the structure of God's creation.
I'm guessing you have a different understanding of the why and the what, but that's my understanding, anyway.
Again, keep faith
Exactly! This is the key condition that God requires in order to bestow on us the blessing of spiritual salvation. However, I put to you that in the last days (where we are, imo) more than mere faith is required. What is required now is unity with God's direction in substance.
It's no good if someone professes to be Christian or to believe in Jesus if they unite with the Satanic agenda, and promote LGBTQI in their church, or push the injection globalist narrative, for example.
"In the last days the sun and the moon will be darkened" means that the beacon that faith is up until the last days will be superseded by the need to unite with Christ in substance, and if CHrist's purpose is to destroy the Satanic sovereignty and restore God's sovereignty over the Earth in the Last Days, unity with that is what will shine (imo).
IOW, in the last days, the condition required is substantial action in UNITY with God's purpose, not simply faith in that purpose. That's why Jesus predicted that "Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’"
How is this possible? Because from the time of the crucifiction until the end times, faith is the main condition in order to receive the grace and blessing. But in the end times, unity with God's purpose (aka "the will of My Father in Heaven") will become necessary too. Do you see what I mean?
What is God's will today? It is the destruction of the Satanic ruling system.
We are on the cusp of entering into the REAL Canaan. Not symbolically, and not just spiritually, but in substance. Satan's system of dominion over the Earth is being exposed and destroyed, and God's governance over the Earth is being realized in actual substance, right here, right now. We are a blessed generation.
And why was that the punishment?. Major lesson to be learned there.
Can you share a bit what you think about that? What is the major lesson to be learned, do you think?
Hope the above makes some sense to you. You don't need to agree with it all (some of it may well seem very different from what you've known over the years), but hopefully it's thought provoking, and if it encourages you to grow in faith, then that's the win, right? (Just as your point about keeping faith, because God can change things in a wink of an eye, is on point!)
What I am actually saying is that things can be one way one day and change totally the next.
OK. It's a worthwhile point. I get what you are saying I think.
(I just think your example was a bit skewed! It took a much longer process to free the Israelites than one, three or even 40 days!!!)
But yes, things can look dark one minute and then be changed dramatically and miraculously the next!!! Like the Pharaoh bearing down on the Israelites one minute and then being crushed by the Red Sea the next, as you say. That's a good example! So keep faith!!!
On the 40 years thing, I am sure there are many different views about that was going on there.
My understanding is that God requires people to fulfill certain conditions in order to be able to bestow his blessing. If God simply gave his blessings without any condition on the part of the recipient, a) it would have no really value and b) Satan could just as easily claim the blessing as well.
The condition represents fulfillment of our responsibility. Our responsibility is a factor built in to our reaching maturity and fulfilling God's purpose for us.
Example: the condition we must make in order to receive the grace (blessing) of salvation is faith. We cannot be saved by the blood of the cross without faith.
For the Israelites to qualify to enter into Canaan after having left Egypt, they needed to have faith in Moses as God's representative for a specific period of time. Very quickly, they failed. While Moses was on the mount receiving the 10 commandments (setting his own condition of faith for 40 days), the Israelites needed to maintain their own faith in him. When they got Aaron to make the golden calf and they worshipped it, they broke their faith and failed. Moreover, Moses himself even destroyed the 2 tablets (which represented Jesus and the Holy Spirit) in anger by losing his temper.
So, he had to make a completely new condition of keeping faith (fasting) for 40 days on the mount in order to receive the grace of the two tablets again.
Again and again, the Israelites lost faith during the journey to Canaan, and the journey time was extended eventually to 40 years! It less than 500 miles from Egypt to Canaan, and by walking, they could certainly have covered the distance in a 3 or 4 weeks. But, they failed in their faith again and again, until finally, teh 2nd generation united with joshua and Caleb in faith (Joshua and Caleb maintained their faith in God for the 40 days of spying in Canaan), and finally qualified to receive the blessing of entering Canaan.
(Moving from Egypt to Canaan symbolized leaving the Satanic world under Satan's dominion and entering the Godly world under God's governance.)
The recurrence of the numbers like 12, 40 etc, in their course is because there is a numerical period required in the process of growing or fulfilling responsibility.
I'm guessing you have a different understanding of the why and the what, but that's my understanding, anyway.
Again, keep faith
Exactly! This is the key condition that God requires in order to give the blessing of spiritual salvation. However, I put to you that in the last days (when we are, imo) More than mere faith is required. What is required now is unity with God's direction in substance.
It's no good if someone professes to be Christian or to believe in Jesus if they unite with the Satanic agenda, and promote LGBTQI in their church, or push the injection globalist narrative.
In the last days, the condition required is substantial action in UNITY with God's purpose, not simply faith in that purpose. That's why Jesus predicted that "Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’"
How is this possible? Because from the time of the crucifiction until the end times, faith is the main condition in order to receive the grace and blessing. But in the end times, unity with God's purpose will become necessary too. In my view.
We are on the cusp of entering into the REAL Canaan. Not symbolically, but in substance. Satan's system of dominion over the Earth is being exposed and destroyed, and God's governance over the Earth is being realized. IMO.
And why was that the punishment?. Major lesson to be learned there.
Can you share a bit what you think about that? What is the major lesson to be learned, do you think?