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Reason: None provided.

Earlier in the conversation I said this:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

To which you agreed:

Yes, but they are not "natural-born" citizens. They can be of foreign origin and naturalized (not eligible to be President) and they can be of foreign parents and born here (the point at issue...citizens by law only, and not "natural").

I then go back to quote I shared before, which was from the very first link you sent me. I assume that you had this link as a primary reference because it's one that you consider the most reputable source:

All the sources routinely used to interpret the Constitution confirm that the phrase “natural born Citizen” has a specific meaning: namely, someone who was a U.S. citizen at birth with no need to go through a naturalization proceeding at some later time.

Thus, Barack Obama, being a citizen by law at birth (your words) due to the fact he was born on US soil, and had no need to go through a naturalization proceeding at some later time, would also be considered a natural born citizen.

I will also point to this article:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/natural_born_citizen#:~:text=Under%20the%2014th%20Amendment's%20Naturalization,referred%20to%20as%20birthright%20citizenship.

Under the 14th Amendment's Naturalization Clause and the Supreme Court case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 US. 649, anyone born on U.S. soil and subject to its jurisdiction is a natural born citizen, regardless of parental citizenship. This type of citizenship is referred to as birthright

1 year ago
1 score
Reason: None provided.

Earlier in the conversation I said this:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

To which you agreed:

Yes, but they are not "natural-born" citizens. They can be of foreign origin and naturalized (not eligible to be President) and they can be of foreign parents and born here (the point at issue...citizens by law only, and not "natural").

I then go back to quote I shared before, which was from the very first link you sent me. I assume that you had this link as a primary reference because it's one that you consider the most reputable source:

All the sources routinely used to interpret the Constitution confirm that the phrase “natural born Citizen” has a specific meaning: namely, someone who was a U.S. citizen at birth with no need to go through a naturalization proceeding at some later time.

Thus, Barack Obama, being a citizen by law at birth (your words) due to the fact he was born on US soil, would also be considered a natural born citizen.

I will also point to this article:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/natural_born_citizen#:~:text=Under%20the%2014th%20Amendment's%20Naturalization,referred%20to%20as%20birthright%20citizenship.

Under the 14th Amendment's Naturalization Clause and the Supreme Court case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 US. 649, anyone born on U.S. soil and subject to its jurisdiction is a natural born citizen, regardless of parental citizenship. This type of citizenship is referred to as birthright

1 year ago
1 score
Reason: None provided.

Earlier in the conversation I said this:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

To which you agreed:

Yes, but they are not "natural-born" citizens. They can be of foreign origin and naturalized (not eligible to be President) and they can be of foreign parents and born here (the point at issue...citizens by law only, and not "natural").

I then go back to quote I shared before, which was from the very first link you sent me. I assume that you had this link as a primary reference because it's one that you consider the most reputable source:

All the sources routinely used to interpret the Constitution confirm that the phrase “natural born Citizen” has a specific meaning: namely, someone who was a U.S. citizen at birth with no need to go through a naturalization proceeding at some later time.

Thus, Barack Obama, being a citizen by law at birth due to the fact he was born on US soil, would also be considered a natural born citizen.

I will also point to this article:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/natural_born_citizen#:~:text=Under%20the%2014th%20Amendment's%20Naturalization,referred%20to%20as%20birthright%20citizenship.

Under the 14th Amendment's Naturalization Clause and the Supreme Court case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 US. 649, anyone born on U.S. soil and subject to its jurisdiction is a natural born citizen, regardless of parental citizenship. This type of citizenship is referred to as birthright

1 year ago
1 score
Reason: Original

Earlier in the conversation I said this:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

To which you agreed:

Yes, but they are not "natural-born" citizens. They can be of foreign origin and naturalized (not eligible to be President) and they can be of foreign parents and born here (the point at issue...citizens by law only, and not "natural").

I then go back to quote I shared before, which was from the very first link you sent me. I assume that you had this link as a primary reference because it's one that you consider the most reputable source:

All the sources routinely used to interpret the Constitution confirm that the phrase “natural born Citizen” has a specific meaning: namely, someone who was a U.S. citizen at birth with no need to go through a naturalization proceeding at some later time.

Thus, Barack Obama, being a citizen by law at birth due to the fact he was born on US soil, would also be considered a natural born citizen.

1 year ago
1 score