Is that what I'm saying?

Or am I challenging their standards of what proves guilt, which they play fast and loose with all the time?

They get away with double standards because people fail to call them out. That's the entire reason they invented the word "whataboutism." Ever wonder why it's primarily used by the left?

When their premise is based on bad faith arguments, you must throw it back at them. Like I already said, you can do this while debating the point.

FYI, I don't know why you're being downvoted. I personally don't downvote counterpoints.

Is that what I'm saying?

Or am I challenging their standards of what proves guilt, which they play fast and loose with all the time?

They get away with double standards because people fail to call them out. That's the entire reason they invented the word "whataboutism." Ever wonder why it's primarily used by the left?

When their premise is based on bad faith arguments, you must throw it back at them. Like I already said, you can do this while debating the point.