Kek. There is nothing like a theological discussion to engender the downvote fingers. It's par for the course. What we are seeing in real time directly verifies my point: our theological understandings are limited, and this is why Christianity has continually divided and fractured more and more with the flow of time.

People want to hold on to their theologicla (aka 'human' aka limited) understandings, instead of allowing God to work in humility via the holy Spirit. The issues at play are the very same issues being fought over in our current (final) 5G war: how humans grasp on to truth but then transform truth into workable (aka applicable) concepts of reality. yet, too many fail to recognize that the map is not the territory. They seek a sense of security in their concept of truth, failing to realize that the truth transcends them.

When you no longer identify purely with your concept of truth, but instead recognize that God inherently requires you to have faith in Him, not in a concept or a theological understanding of him, then that humility opens the door.

It's very hard however. It's like asking people who trust the govt and the propaganda machine to question all that and find a sense of security in something else. It's extremely difficult to do, because people require that sense of security. Only when your sense of security rests in something other than the propaganda you are sold can you begin to question it. Thus, questioning the narrative matrix requires self-reflection, and a willingness to confront one's fears. That requires a faith in something higher than, or deeper than, the matrix.

The same is true of theological understanding. The very reason the Israelite leadership rejected and crucified Jesus was because in the hardness of their hearts, they held onto their theological understanding of God, themselves, and everything they'd been raised on, instead of stepping out in humility to be open to what Jesus was telling them: There is a better way; there is a higher understanding; I am the embodiment of that way; you should drop your beliefs, not because they are wrong, but because they are now outdated. Come to me!

But they hated him, because they could not let go of what to them was their security; their theological traditions inherited from Moses; their own concept of God and of themselves are the chosen people. And in that moment, they lost their qualification as the chosen people. They failed to upgrade.

The lessons are crystal clear, and the New Testament is rife with the warnings; yet so many of the Christian faithful fall into the exact same pit, just one with a different name.

But I have faith in God. At some point, it will become undeniable, and those whose hearts are open will rise above the one's with all the theological certainty, just as Peter accepted Christ, while Ciaphas rejected him.

Kek. There is nothing like a theological discussion to engender the downvote fingers. It's par for the course. What we are seeing in real time directly verifies my point: our theological understandings are limited, and this is why Christianity has continually divided and fractured more and more with the flow of time.

People want to hold on to their theologicla (aka 'human' aka limited) understandings, instead of allowing God to work in humility via the holy Spirit. The issues at play are the very same issues being fought over in our current (final) 5G war: how humans grasp on to truth but then transform truth into workable (aka applicable) concepts of reality. yet, too many fail to recognize that the map is not the territory. They seek a sense of security in their concept of truth, failing to realize that the truth transcends them.

When you no longer identify purely with your concept of truth, but instead recognize that God inherently requires you to have faith in Him, not in a concept or a theological understanding of him, then that humility opens the door.

It's very hard however. It's like asking people who trust the govt and the propaganda machine to question all that and find a sense of security in something else. It's extremely difficult to do, because people require that sense of security. Only when your sense of security rests in something other than the propaganda you are sold can you begin to question it. Thus, questioning the narrative matrix requires self-reflection, and a willingness to confront one's fears. That requires a faith in something higher than, or deeper than, the matrix.

The same is true of theological understanding. The very reason the Israelite leadership rejected and crucified Jesus was because in the hardness of their hearts, they held onto their theological understanding of God, themselves, and everything they'd been raised on, instead of stepping out in humility to be open to what Jesus was telling them: There is a better way; there is a higher understanding; I am the embodiment of that way; you should drop your beliefs, not because they are wrong, but because they are now outdated. Come to me!

But they hated him, because they could not let go of what to them was their security; their own concept of God and of themselves are the chosen people. And in that moment, they lost their qualification as the chosen people. They failed to upgrade.

The lessons are crystal clear, and the New Testament is rife with the warnings; yet so many of the Christian faithful fall into the exact same pit, just one with a different name.

But I have faith in God. At some point, it will become undeniable, and those whose hearts are open will rise above the one's with all the theological certainty, just as Peter accepted Christ, while Ciaphas rejected him.