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.... He said "That's not my concern" and as far as I can see, he said that in response to Tucker saying that "your concern... is how many tanks Ukraine has".

That's all. It seems pretty straightforward to me.

<rant>

This doesn't mean Pence isn't deep state. It doesn't mean that his level of concern about the US situation is adequate. It doesn't mean that his concerns about Ukraine are non-existent or appropriate. It doesn't mean that he isn't actually concerned about the tanks and Ukraine thing.

All it means is that he responded to what Tucker was rhetorically asserting that "Your Concern is ..... the Ukraine". Tucker's rhetoric may well have been on point. But I don't think it serves truth or freedom when facts are misrepresented and then used for purposes of manipulating public opinion.

If someone put out memes or stories that "Pence's is more concerned about the Ukraine than he is about America" that's an opinion and fair game. People can freely make that argument. But to put out the story that "Pence said American is NOT his concern" it's both misquoting and to my mind, misrepresenting. And, I think that's important.

So in my view, the story that "Pence just killed his political career because he said that the USA is NOT his concern" is untrue.

How many times (like a kazillion?) have the media and deep state twisted DJT's words to misrepresent him to the American and the World's people? Surely the problem here is how truth is twisted and manipulated for nefarious or manipulative purposes. How will people be able to truly be sovereign over their nations and governments unless they upgrade their thinking to the level that the real facts matter and REALLY matter? Propaganda works by manipulating facts and destroying the line between facts and opinion.

Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree. I'm not arguing for Pence as some good guy. I'm arguing about how various parties, including TPA, took what Pence said and seemed happy to reshape it, spin it, in order to win hit points against... Well, Pence. Isn't THAT a problem?

If Pence is rubbish, and his policies and concerns are really bad for America, then this will really ONLY be clear and obvious when the facts are correctly presented. Not via Spin. Otherwise, we're simply playing the same Swamp game, only swapping out us for them.

I don't know. Maybe for me this is a much bigger point than for others. Maybe that has to do with the fact that a massive turning point for me in how I view the world and started paying serious attention came when I watched a video by Stefan Molyneux around Jan of 2016 called "The Untruth About Donald Trump". (PS. I'm not American, btw)

I watched that video, which examined what DJT was actually saying, and what the Mainstream Media were saying what he was saying, and it was really a massive red pill, one that sent me on the path of examining the real situation in the USA not to mention questioning the media industrial complex.

Today I remain convinced that the most important red pill and the biggest turning points for our societies will come when people wake up to the fact that the Media Industrial Complex has been lying and manipulating and controlled them (us), mostly all of our lives.

Once the Media complex collapses (and it's in the process of collapse, imo) what are we going to replace it with? That's meant to be us, regular citizens. The anons are the first, but a truly free society will live or die on that capacity of its people to honor truth and keep ourselves accountable to truth.

<end of rant>

Q4148

The news is dead.

You are what matters now.

HANDLE WITH CARE.
1 year ago
1 score
Reason: Original

.... He said "That's not my concern" and as far as I can see, he said that in response to Tucker saying that "your concern... is how many tanks Ukraine has".

That's all. It seems pretty straightforward to me.

This doesn't mean Pence isn't deep state. It doesn't mean that his level of concern about the US situation is adequate. It doesn't mean that his concerns about Ukraine are non-existent or appropriate. It doesn't mean that he isn't actually concerned about the tanks and Ukraine thing.

All it means is that he responded to what Tucker was rhetorically asserting that "Your Concern is ..... the Ukraine". Tucker's rhetoric may well have been on point. But I don't think it serves truth or freedom when facts are misrepresented and then used for purposes of manipulating public opinion.

If someone put out memes or stories that "Pence's is more concerned about the Ukraine than he is about America" that's an opinion and fair game. People can freely make that argument. But to put out the story that "Pence said American is NOT his concern" it's both misquoting and to my mind, misrepresenting. And, I think that's important.

So in my view, the story that "Pence just killed his political career because he said that the USA is NOT his concern" is untrue.

How many times (like a kazillion?) have the media and deep state twisted DJT's words to misrepresent him to the American and the World's people? Surely the problem here is how truth is twisted and manipulated for nefarious or manipulative purposes. How will people be able to truly be sovereign over their nations and governments unless they upgrade their thinking to the level that the real facts matter and REALLY matter? Propaganda works by manipulating facts and destroying the line between facts and opinion.

Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree. I'm not arguing for Pence as some good guy. I'm arguing about how various parties, including TPA, took what Pence said and seemed happy to reshape it, spin it, in order to win hit points against... Well, Pence. Isn't THAT a problem?

If Pence is rubbish, and his policies and concerns are really bad for America, then this will really ONLY be clear and obvious when the facts are correctly presented. Not via Spin. Otherwise, we're simply playing the same Swamp game, only swapping out us for them.

I don't know. Maybe for me this is a much bigger point than for others. Maybe that has to do with the fact that a massive turning point for me in how I view the world and started paying serious attention came when I watched a video by Stefan Molyneux around Jan of 2016 called "The Untruth About Donald Trump". (PS. I'm not American, btw)

I watched that video, which examined what DJT was actually saying, and what the Mainstream Media were saying what he was saying, and it was really a massive red pill, one that sent me on the path of examining the real situation in the USA not to mention questioning the media industrial complex.

Today I remain convinced that the most important red pill and the biggest turning points for our societies will come when people wake up to the fact that the Media Industrial Complex has been lying and manipulating and controlled them (us), mostly all of our lives.

Once the Media complex collapses (and it's in the process of collapse, imo) what are we going to replace it with?

Q4148

The news is dead.

You are what matters now.

HANDLE WITH CARE.
1 year ago
1 score