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I don't believe in a "secret" rapture followed by 7 years of hell on earth followed by the Second Coming. I used to believe that because I was told so in HS before I was a believer. When I did begin to have faith, I just assumed my HS friends had told me the truth. Later I learned there are different schools of interpretation, and I settled on what scripture told me:

Gospel of John, Ch. 11: 20 When Martha heard that Jesus was coming, she went out to meet him, but Mary stayed at home. 21 “Lord,” Martha said to Jesus, “if you had been here, my brother would not have died. 22 But I know that even now God will give you whatever you ask.” 23 Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise again.” 24 Martha answered, “I know he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.

Thess. 4: [resurrection/"rapture" on the last day]: 15For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together ["rapture"] with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.

Then Christ will take vengeance on his enemies: 2 Thess.1 6 Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you; 7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Recently I am studying about the "Historicist" school of interpretation of Revelation. This is what the Reformation era theologians believed and taught. The "pre-trib rapture/7 years trib/futurist dispensationalist" teachings originated with the Jesuits of Rome. According to this Historicist school, all the seal and trumpet judgments have been fulfilled gradually over the past 1900 years. Now, we are between the 6th and 7th bowls/vials. This is where the guess of a WW3 and economic collapse fulfillment are being speculated. But everyone here knows these events are possible. I don't know how many years this will last. It seems maybe not so long. Christ said we should keep watch for him. If the world collapses, people will be crying out for the "peace and safety" that a one world government would [potentially] give them.

All that UN/WEF crazy stuff. I have no idea how much they are going to succeed in applying, nor the exact time frame.

1 year ago
1 score
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I don't believe in a "secret" rapture followed by 7 years of hell on earth followed by the Second Coming. I used to believe that because I was told so in HS before I was a believer. When I did begin to have faith, I just assumed my HS friends had told me the truth. Later I learned there are different schools of interpretation, and I settled on what scripture told me:

Gospel of John, Ch. 11: 20 When Martha heard that Jesus was coming, she went out to meet him, but Mary stayed at home. 21 “Lord,” Martha said to Jesus, “if you had been here, my brother would not have died. 22 But I know that even now God will give you whatever you ask.” 23 Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise again.” 24 Martha answered, “I know he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.

Thess. 4: [resurrection/"rapture" on the last day]: 15For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together ["rapture"] with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.

Then Christ will take vengeance on his enemies: 2 Thess.1 6 Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you; 7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Recently I am studying about the "Historicist" school of interpretation of Revelation. This is what the Reformation era theologians believed and taught. The "pre-trib rapture/7 years trib/futurist dispensationalist teachings originated with the Jesuits of Rome. According to this Historicist school, all the seal and trumpet judgments have been fulfilled gradually over the past 1900 years. Now, we are between the 6th and 7th bowls/vials. This is where the guess of a WW3 and economic collapse fulfillment are being speculated. But everyone here knows these events are possible. I don't know how many years this will last. It seems maybe not so long. Christ said we should keep watch for him. If the world collapses, people will be crying out for the "peace and safety" that a one world government would [potentially] give them.

All that UN/WEF crazy stuff. I have no idea how much they are going to succeed in applying, nor the exact time frame.

1 year ago
1 score