A "full" response would take pages upon pages of references and quotes, but let's start with something easy.
That Yahweh was a child of El is stated in the Bible itself (Deut. 32, 8-9):
8 When the Most High apportioned[f] the nations, at his dividing up of the sons of humankind, he fixed the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the children of Israel.[g]
9 For Yahweh’s portion was his people, Jacob the share of his inheritance.
But there’s a problem with this verse. The “children of Israel” makes no sense in this context.
More ancient texts found recently give a very different translation that does make sense: (see footnote (g) on this page):
LXX reads “the number of the angels of God”; Dead Sea Scrolls reads “the number of the sons of God”
To restate (paraphrased):
The Most High (El) divided up humanity (the nations of the world) according to the number of the sons of God. Yahweh got the children of Israel.
There are numerous such translation changes that can be found in the bible when comparing old (Nag Hammadi, Dead Sea Scrolls, etc.) to new. Many, such as these may very well be minor edits intended to change the previously polytheistic Canaanites (who called themselves the “children of Israel”) into a monotheistic religion, under the rulership of the Priest Class of Jews. You can find scholarship, and corroboration in other texts (primary sources) from the region (Canaan) all over the place.
Interestingly, this deeper dive into the translation also equates the sons of God as the angels of God, which also makes a whole lot of sense if you think in terms of the “first children” of God (perhaps some sort of extra-dimensional or higher dimensional (four dimensional e.g.) entity. This idea of a higher dimensional being (not bound by what we think of as the “physical” universe) is a trope which is literally everywhere in ancient religions, including in the bible itself.
Here’s a deeper dive into “Yahweh as son of El.” That’s just one take. There are numerous such articles of scholarship. At the least there is substantial reason to doubt the present day translation of the Bible (OT) we have on numerous issues, not the least of which is the belief of the parentage of the entity we call Yahweh.
I could do this all day, pointing out such discrepancies in translation (I have countless pages of such issues), but I prefer to just consider the attempts to equate “The Source of All Things” with the words and actions of Yahweh as presented in the bible we have, and see if they make any sense at all.
Consider a few examples (there are many more):
First there’s the entire concept that a handful of people are “The Chosen People of The Source of All Things,” and they have a “Promised Land.” Why would the Source of All Things select a very tiny subset of the hundreds of millions of people that existed at the time, on a tiny speck of a planet, in a MASSIVELY HUGE universe as his “special people.” Why would he select a few hundred square miles, that happens to be the homeland of the people in question already (the "Israelites" were just a subset of the Canaanites), as the "Promised Land." Quite frankly, it's not that great of a place, but it was where they lived, and they separated themselves from the larger group of Canaanites through "The Law," written by the Priest Class of those same people.
What about the people in India, for example? Are they just screwed because Yahweh selected a couple hundred thousand Jews as special? What about the hundreds of millions of people in the Americas who had never heard of Yahweh or the Jews? No promised land for them, much less "salvation". On the contrary, the Chosen would later be instrumental in wiping out those Americans and taking their land a couple thousand years later. What about the people on [insert your favorite non Earth planet here]? They are totally FUBAR. They aren't The Jews. They don't get to be part of "Gods Chosen."
If you think I'm being obtuse, you really need to read your bible. This concept of The Jews as being chosen above all others is literally everywhere. It's not even slightly hidden. They get all sorts of special privileges, because of their genetics.
What does the Source of All Things need with 'the tithe," AKA a tenth of everyone’s income (an income tax…)? Why does the Source of All Things need the best cuts of meat from each harvest? Why does the Source of All Things need the firstborn sons of every family? Why does the Source of All Things allow for those that don’t want to sacrifice their firstborn sons (or give them to the priests as slaves, which was also part of The Law) to pay a “redemption” (a "substitute tax" on firstborns, paid in gold or silver or other goods). Do you know who it was who actually got the tithes, and the firstborns, and the best cuts of meats, and the redemption monies? The exact same group of people who were the authors of The Law in the first place, the Priest Class of Jews, an aristocracy.
Why did the Source of All Things demand child sacrifice (or any sacrifice) in the first place? It is the SOURCE OF ALL THINGS!!! Why does it demand these things? Why did the Source of All Things slaughter all the first born sons of the Egyptians and/or the “Israelites” who were non-Yahweh worshipers in the beginning of the Exodus? Yahweh literally murdered countless innocent children (or rather, had “angels” do his murdering for him). No matter how you spin that story, the CHILDREN did nothing to deserve the end of their life. What does the Source of All Things need with such murder and mayhem so that his CHOSEN RACE OF PEOPLE (a genetic line) would be “let go” from a place where they had leadership positions in finance and government (just like always).
What about Exodus 34:14, when the Israelites are being told to go murder the people who live in the "Promised Land" and steal everything from them, and Yahweh tells them his true name?
For you will not bow in worship to another god, for ‘Yahweh Is Jealous’ is his name, he is a jealous God (emphasis mine)
What kind of Source of All Things is named Jealous? What can the Source be “Jealous” of? It’s the Source of ALL Things!
This goes on, page after page of issues; racism, sexism, condoning slavery, murdering and condoning murder, rape, etc.
I assert that no one who actually believes that the bible is “The Whole Truth,” and inspired by the Source of All Things has actually read the book.
…
As far as I can tell, the ONLY way to rectify these issues is to presuppose that the Bible is absolute truth, and not the works of the Priest Class of Jews (an Elite class, an Aristocracy, the children of Arron) to rule the larger group of “Jews” (which is exactly what actually happened through their writing of The Law). It is only by that presupposition that a person can then attempt to make all of the problems; the racism, the sexism, the Chosen People, the Promised Land, the laudations of slavery as an institution, the entire concept that all other peoples on the Earth are simply “less than” The Jews, etc.make any sense. All of those things are rampant in the OT, yet no one who is a True Believer bats an eyelash at them. They will even call you "evil" if you point them out.
“We have the new covenant” they say. OK, but how about Yahweh’s statements that he is “unchanging.”
“We have faith that God can work it out as he sees fit.”
“It obviously makes sense to God, and that’s good enough for me.”
OK, but those aren’t statements using the process of reason, rather they are statements that throw reason out the window in favor of “your faith.” I respect that, but I think you have likely been brainwashed by the Priest Class of Jews who wrote that book to rule the rest of that people. Just like it is the exact same Priest Class of Jews (the same Aristocracy) that has pulled the wool over the eyes of the rest of the world in the exact same manner today.
A "full" response would take pages upon pages of references and quotes, but let's start with something easy.
That Yahweh was a child of El is stated in the Bible itself (Deut. 32, 8-9):
8 When the Most High apportioned[f] the nations, at his dividing up of the sons of humankind, he fixed the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the children of Israel.[g]
9 For Yahweh’s portion was his people, Jacob the share of his inheritance.
But there’s a problem with this verse. The “children of Israel” makes no sense in this context.
More ancient texts found recently give a very different translation that does make sense: (see footnote (g) on this page):
LXX reads “the number of the angels of God”; Dead Sea Scrolls reads “the number of the sons of God”
To restate (paraphrased):
The Most High (El) divided up humanity (the nations of the world) according to the number of the sons of God. Yahweh got the children of Israel.
There are numerous such translation changes that can be found in the bible when comparing old (Nag Hammadi, Dead Sea Scrolls, etc.) to new. Many, such as these may very well be minor edits intended to change the previously polytheistic Canaanites (who called themselves the “children of Israel”) into a monotheistic religion, under the rulership of the Priest Class of Jews. You can find scholarship, and corroboration in other texts (primary sources) from the region (Canaan) all over the place.
Interestingly, this deeper dive into the translation also equates the sons of God as the angels of God, which also makes a whole lot of sense if you think in terms of the “first children” of God (perhaps some sort of extra-dimensional or higher dimensional (four dimensional e.g.) entity. This idea of a higher dimensional being (not bound by what we think of as the “physical” universe) is a trope which is literally everywhere in ancient religions, including in the bible itself.
Here’s a deeper dive into “Yahweh as son of El.” That’s just one take. There are numerous such articles of scholarship. At the least there is substantial reason to doubt the present day translation of the Bible (OT) we have on numerous issues, not the least of which is the belief of the parentage of the entity we call Yahweh.
I could do this all day, pointing out such discrepancies in translation (I have countless pages of such issues), but I prefer to just consider the attempts to equate “The Source of All Things” with the words and actions of Yahweh as presented in the bible we have, and see if they make any sense at all.
Consider a few examples (there are many more):
First there’s the entire concept that a handful of people are “The Chosen People of The Source of All Things,” and they have a “Promised Land.” Why would the Source of All Things select a very tiny subset of the hundreds of millions of people that existed at the time, on a tiny speck of a planet, in a MASSIVELY HUGE universe as his “special people.” Why would he select a few hundred square miles, that happens to be the homeland of the people in question already (the "Israelites" were just a subset of the Canaanites), as the "Promised Land." Quite frankly, it's not that great of a place, but it was where they lived, and they separated themselves from the larger group of Canaanites through "The Law," written by the Priest Class of those same people.
What about the people in India, for example? Are they just screwed because Yahweh selected a couple hundred thousand Jews as special? What about the hundreds of millions of people in the Americas who had never heard of Yahweh or the Jews? No promised land for them, much less "salvation". On the contrary, the Chosen would later be instrumental in wiping out those Americans and taking their land a couple thousand years later. What about the people on [insert your favorite non Earth planet here]? They are totally FUBAR. They aren't The Jews. They don't get to be part of "Gods Chosen."
If you think I'm being obtuse, you really need to read your bible. This concept of The Jews as being chosen above all others is literally everywhere. It's not even slightly hidden. They get all sorts of special privileges, because of their genetics.
What does the Source of All Things need with 'the tithe," AKA a tenth of everyone’s income (an income tax…)? Why does the Source of All Things need the best cuts of meat from each harvest? Why does the Source of All Things need the firstborn sons of every family? Why does the Source of All Things allow for those that don’t want to sacrifice their firstborn sons (or give them to the priests as slaves, which was also part of The Law) to pay a “redemption” (a "substitute tax" on firstborns, paid in gold or silver or other goods). Do you know who it was who actually got the tithes, and the firstborns, and the best cuts of meats, and the redemption monies? The exact same group of people who were the authors of The Law in the first place, the Priest Class of Jews, an aristocracy.
Why did the Source of All Things demand child sacrifice (or any sacrifice) in the first place? It is the SOURCE OF ALL THINGS!!! Why does it demand these things? Why did the Source of All Things slaughter all the first born sons of the Egyptians and/or the “Israelites” who were non-Yahweh worshipers in the beginning of the Exodus? Yahweh literally murdered countless innocent children (or rather, had “angels” do his murdering for him). No matter how you spin that story, the CHILDREN did nothing to deserve the end of their life. What does the Source of All Things need with such murder and mayhem so that his CHOSEN RACE OF PEOPLE (a genetic line) would be “let go” from a place where they were they had leadership positions in finance and government (just like always).
What about Exodus 34:14, when the Israelites are being told to go murder the people who live in the "Promised Land" and steal everything from them, and Yahweh tells them his true name?
For you will not bow in worship to another god, for ‘Yahweh Is Jealous’ is his name, he is a jealous God (emphasis mine)
What kind of Source of All Things is named Jealous? What can the Source be “Jealous” of? It’s the Source of ALL Things!
This goes on, page after page of issues; racism, sexism, condoning slavery, murdering and condoning murder, rape, etc.
I assert that no one who actually believes that the bible is “The Whole Truth,” and inspired by the Source of All Things has actually read the book.
…
As far as I can tell, the ONLY way to rectify these issues is to presuppose that the Bible is absolute truth, and not the works of the Priest Class of Jews (an Elite class, an Aristocracy, the children of Arron) to rule the larger group of “Jews” (which is exactly what actually happened through their writing of The Law). It is only by that presupposition that a person can then attempt to make all of the problems; the racism, the sexism, the Chosen People, the Promised Land, the laudations of slavery as an institution, the entire concept that all other peoples on the Earth are simply “less than” The Jews, etc.make any sense. All of those things are rampant in the OT, yet no one who is a True Believer bats an eyelash at them. They will even call you "evil" if you point them out.
“We have the new covenant” they say. OK, but how about Yahweh’s statements that he is “unchanging.”
“We have faith that God can work it out as he sees fit.”
“It obviously makes sense to God, and that’s good enough for me.”
OK, but those aren’t statements using the process of reason, rather they are statements that throw reason out the window in favor of “your faith.” I respect that, but I think you have likely been brainwashed by the Priest Class of Jews who wrote that book to rule the rest of that people. Just like it is the exact same Priest Class of Jews (the same Aristocracy) that has pulled the wool over the eyes of the rest of the world in the exact same manner today.
A "full" response would take pages upon pages of references and quotes, but let's start with something easy.
That Yahweh was a child of El is stated in the Bible itself (Deut. 32, 8-9):
8 When the Most High apportioned[f] the nations, at his dividing up of the sons of humankind, he fixed the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the children of Israel.[g]
9 For Yahweh’s portion was his people, Jacob the share of his inheritance.
But there’s a problem with this verse. The “children of Israel” makes no sense in this context.
More ancient texts found recently give a very different translation that does make sense: (see footnote (g) on this page):
LXX reads “the number of the angels of God”; Dead Sea Scrolls reads “the number of the sons of God”
To restate (paraphrased):
The Most High (El) divided up humanity (the nations of the world) according to the number of the sons of God. Yahweh got the children of Israel.
There are numerous such translation changes that can be found in the bible when comparing old (Nag Hamadi, Dead Sea Scrolls, etc.) to new. Many, such as these may very well be minor edits intended to change the previously polytheistic Canaanites (who called themselves the “children of Israel”) into a monotheistic religion, under the rulership of the Priest Class of Jews. You can find scholarship, and corroboration in other texts (primary sources) from the region (Canaan) all over the place.
Interestingly, this deeper dive into the translation also equates the sons of God as the angels of God, which also makes a whole lot of sense if you think in terms of the “first children” of God (perhaps some sort of extra-dimensional or higher dimensional (four dimensional e.g.) entity. This idea of a higher dimensional being (not bound by what we think of as the “physical” universe) is a trope which is literally everywhere in ancient religions, including in the bible itself.
Here’s a deeper dive into “Yahweh as son of El.” That’s just one take. There are numerous such articles of scholarship. At the least there is substantial reason to doubt the present day translation of the Bible (OT) we have on numerous issues, not the least of which is the belief of the parentage of the entity we call Yahweh.
I could do this all day, pointing out such discrepancies in translation (I have countless pages of such issues), but I prefer to just consider the attempts to equate “The Source of All Things” with the words and actions of Yahweh as presented in the bible we have, and see if they make any sense at all.
Consider a few examples (there are many more):
First there’s the entire concept that a handful of people are “The Chosen People of The Source of All Things,” and they have a “Promised Land.” Why would the Source of All Things select a very tiny subset of the hundreds of millions of people that existed at the time, on a tiny speck of a planet, in a MASSIVELY HUGE universe as his “special people.” Why would he select a few hundred square miles, that happens to be the homeland of the people in question already (the "Israelites" were just a subset of the Canaanites), as the "Promised Land." Quite frankly, it's not that great of a place, but it was where they lived, and they separated themselves from the larger group of Canaanites through "The Law," written by the Priest Class of those same people.
What about the people in India, for example? Are they just screwed because Yahweh selected a couple hundred thousand Jews as special? What about the hundreds of millions of people in the Americas who had never heard of Yahweh or the Jews? No promised land for them, much less "salvation". On the contrary, the Chosen would later be instrumental in wiping out those Americans and taking their land a couple thousand years later. What about the people on [insert your favorite non Earth planet here]? They are totally FUBAR. They aren't The Jews. They don't get to be part of "Gods Chosen."
If you think I'm being obtuse, you really need to read your bible. This concept of The Jews as being chosen above all others is literally everywhere. It's not even slightly hidden. They get all sorts of special privileges, because of their genetics.
What does the Source of All Things need with 'the tithe," AKA a tenth of everyone’s income (an income tax…)? Why does the Source of All Things need the best cuts of meat from each harvest? Why does the Source of All Things need the firstborn sons of every family? Why does the Source of All Things allow for those that don’t want to sacrifice their firstborn sons (or give them to the priests as slaves, which was also part of The Law) to pay a “redemption” (a "substitute tax" on firstborns, paid in gold or silver or other goods). Do you know who it was who actually got the tithes, and the firstborns, and the best cuts of meats, and the redemption monies? The exact same group of people who were the authors of The Law in the first place, the Priest Class of Jews, an aristocracy.
Why did the Source of All Things demand child sacrifice (or any sacrifice) in the first place? It is the SOURCE OF ALL THINGS!!! Why does it demand these things? Why did the Source of All Things slaughter all the first born sons of the Egyptians and/or the “Israelites” who were non-Yahweh worshipers in the beginning of the Exodus? Yahweh literally murdered countless innocent children (or rather, had “angels” do his murdering for him). No matter how you spin that story, the CHILDREN did nothing to deserve the end of their life. What does the Source of All Things need with such murder and mayhem so that his CHOSEN RACE OF PEOPLE (a genetic line) would be “let go” from a place where they were they had leadership positions in finance and government (just like always).
What about Exodus 34:14, when the Israelites are being told to go murder the people who live in the "Promised Land" and steal everything from them, and Yahweh tells them his true name?
For you will not bow in worship to another god, for ‘Yahweh Is Jealous’ is his name, he is a jealous God (emphasis mine)
What kind of Source of All Things is named Jealous? What can the Source be “Jealous” of? It’s the Source of ALL Things!
This goes on, page after page of issues; racism, sexism, condoning slavery, murdering and condoning murder, rape, etc.
I assert that no one who actually believes that the bible is “The Whole Truth,” and inspired by the Source of All Things has actually read the book.
…
As far as I can tell, the ONLY way to rectify these issues is to presuppose that the Bible is absolute truth, and not the works of the Priest Class of Jews (an Elite class, an Aristocracy, the children of Arron) to rule the larger group of “Jews” (which is exactly what actually happened through their writing of The Law). It is only by that presupposition that a person can then attempt to make all of the problems; the racism, the sexism, the Chosen People, the Promised Land, the laudations of slavery as an institution, the entire concept that all other peoples on the Earth are simply “less than” The Jews, etc.make any sense. All of those things are rampant in the OT, yet no one who is a True Believer bats an eyelash at them. They will even call you "evil" if you point them out.
“We have the new covenant” they say. OK, but how about Yahweh’s statements that he is “unchanging.”
“We have faith that God can work it out as he sees fit.”
“It obviously makes sense to God, and that’s good enough for me.”
OK, but those aren’t statements using the process of reason, rather they are statements that throw reason out the window in favor of “your faith.” I respect that, but I think you have likely been brainwashed by the Priest Class of Jews who wrote that book to rule the rest of that people. Just like it is the exact same Priest Class of Jews (the same Aristocracy) that has pulled the wool over the eyes of the rest of the world in the exact same manner today.
A "full" response would take pages upon pages of references and quotes, but let's start with something easy.
That Yahweh was a child of El is stated in the Bible itself (Deut. 32, 8-9):
8 When the Most High apportioned[f] the nations, at his dividing up of the sons of humankind, he fixed the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the children of Israel.[g]
9 For Yahweh’s portion was his people, Jacob the share of his inheritance.
But there’s a problem with this verse. The “children of Israel” makes no sense in this context.
More ancient texts found recently give a very different translation that does make sense: (see footnote (g) on this page):
LXX reads “the number of the angels of God”; Dead Sea Scrolls reads “the number of the sons of God”
To restate (paraphrased):
The Most High (El) divided up humanity (the nations of the world) according to the number of the sons of God. Yahweh got the children of Israel.
There are numerous such translation changes that can be found in the bible when comparing old (Nag Hamadi, Dead Sea Scrolls, etc.) to new. Many, such as these may very well be minor edits intended to change the previously polytheistic Canaanites (who called themselves the “children of Israel”) into a monotheistic religion, under the rulership of the Priest Class of Jews. You can find scholarship, and corroboration in other texts (primary sources) from the region (Canaan) all over the place.
Interestingly, this deeper dive into the translation also equates the sons of God as the angels of God, which also makes a whole lot of sense if you think in terms of the “first children” of God (perhaps some sort of extra-dimensional or higher dimensional (four dimensional e.g.) entity. This idea of a higher dimensional being (not bound by what we think of as the “physical” universe) is a trope which is literally everywhere in ancient religions, including in the bible itself.
Here’s a deeper dive into “Yahweh as son of El.” That’s just one take. There are numerous such articles of scholarship. At the least there is substantial reason to doubt the present day translation of the Bible (OT) we have on numerous issues, not the least of which is the belief of the parentage of the entity we call Yahweh.
I could do this all day, pointing out such discrepancies in translation (I have countless pages of such issues), but I prefer to just consider the attempts to equate “The Source of All Things” with the words and actions of Yahweh as presented in the bible we have, and see if they make any sense at all.
Consider a few examples (there are many more):
First there’s the entire concept that a handful of people are “The Chosen People of The Source of All Things,” and they have a “Promised Land.” Why would the Source of All Things select a very tiny subset of the hundreds of millions of people that existed at the time, on a tiny speck of a planet, in a MASSIVELY HUGE universe as his “special people.” Why would he select a few hundred square miles, that happens to be the homeland of the people in question already (the "Israelites" were just a subset of the Canaanites), as the "Promised Land." Quite frankly, it's not that great of a place, but it was where they lived, and they separated themselves from the larger group of Canaanites through "The Law," written by the Priest Class of those same people.
What about the people in India, for example? Are they just screwed because Yahweh selected a couple hundred thousand Jews as special? What about the hundreds of millions of people in the Americas who had never heard of Yahweh or the Jews? No promised land for them, much less "salvation". On the contrary, the Chosen would later be instrumental in wiping out those Americans and taking their land a couple thousand years later. What about the people on [insert your favorite non Earth planet here]? They are totally FUBAR. They aren't The Jews. They don't get to be part of "Gods Chosen."
If you think I'm being obtuse, you really need to read your bible. This concept of The Jews as being chosen above all others is literally everywhere. It's not even slightly hidden. They get all sorts of special privileges, because of their genetics.
What does the Source of All Things need with 'the tithe," AKA a tenth of everyone’s income (an income tax…)? Why does the Source of All Things need the best cuts of meat from each harvest? Why does the Source of All Things need the firstborn sons of every family? Why does the Source of All Things allow for those that don’t want to sacrifice their firstborn sons (or give them to the priests as slaves, which was also part of The Law) to pay a “redemption” (a "substitute tax" on firstborns, paid in gold or silver or other goods). Do you know who it was who actually got the tithes, and the firstborns, and the best cuts of meats, and the redemption monies? The exact same group of people who were the authors of The Law in the first place, the Priest Class of Jews, an aristocracy.
Why did the Source of All Things demand child sacrifice (or any sacrifice) in the first place? It is the SOURCE OF ALL THINGS!!! Why does it demand these things? Why did the Source of All Things slaughter all the first born sons of the Egyptians and/or the “Israelites” who were non-Yahweh worshipers in the beginning of the Exodus? Yahweh literally murdered countless innocent children (or rather, had “angels” do his murdering for him). No matter how you spin that story, the CHILDREN did nothing to deserve the end of their life. What does the Source of All Things need with such murder and mayhem so that his CHOSEN RACE OF PEOPLE (a genetic line) would be “let go” from a place where they were they had leadership positions in finance and government (just like always).
What about Exodus 34:14, when the Israelites are being told to go murder the people who live in the "Promised Land" and steal everything from them, and Yahweh tells them his true name?
For you will not bow in worship to another god, for ‘Yahweh Is Jealous’ is his name, he is a jealous God (emphasis mine)
What kind of Source of All Things is named Jealous? What can the Source be “Jealous” of? It’s the Source of ALL Things!
This goes on, page after page of issues; racism, sexism, condoning slavery, murdering and condoning murder, rape, etc.
I assert that no one who actually believes that the bible is “The Whole Truth,” and inspired by the Source of All Things has actually read the book.
…
As far as I can tell, the ONLY way to rectify these issues is to presuppose that the Bible is absolute truth, and not the works of the Priest Class of Jews (an Elite class, an Aristocracy, the children of Arron) to rule the larger group of “Jews” (which is exactly what actually happened through their writing of The Law). It is only by that presupposition that a person can then attempt to make all of the problems; the racism, the sexism, the Chosen People, the Promised Land, the laudations of slavery as an institution, the entire concept that all other peoples on the Earth are simply “less than” The Jews, etc. All of those things are rampant in the OT, yet no one who is a True Believer bats an eyelash at them, or calls you "evil" if you point them out.
“We have the new covenant” they say. OK, but how about Yahweh’s statements that he is “unchanging.”
“We have faith that God can work it out as he sees fit.”
“It obviously makes sense to God, and that’s good enough for me.”
OK, but those aren’t statements using the process of reason, rather they are statements that throw reason out the window in favor of “your faith.” I respect that, but I think you have likely been brainwashed by the Priest Class of Jews who wrote that book to rule the rest of that people. Just like it is the exact same Priest Class of Jews (the same Aristocracy) that has pulled the wool over the eyes of the rest of the world in the exact same manner today.
A "full" response would take pages upon pages of references and quotes, but let's start with something easy.
That Yahweh was a child of El is stated in the Bible itself (Deut. 32, 8-9):
8 When the Most High apportioned[f] the nations, at his dividing up of the sons of humankind, he fixed the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the children of Israel.[g]
9 For Yahweh’s portion was his people, Jacob the share of his inheritance.
But there’s a problem with this verse. The “children of Israel” makes no sense in this context.
More ancient texts found recently give a very different translation that does make sense: (see footnote (g) on this page):
LXX reads “the number of the angels of God”; Dead Sea Scrolls reads “the number of the sons of God”
To restate (paraphrased):
The Most High (El) divided up humanity (the nations of the world) according to the number of the sons of God. Yahweh got the children of Israel.
There are numerous such translation changes that can be found in the bible when comparing old (Nag Hamadi, Dead Sea Scrolls, etc.) to new. Many, such as these may very well be minor edits intended to change the previously polytheistic Canaanites (who called themselves the “children of Israel”) into a monotheistic religion, under the rulership of the Priest Class of Jews. You can find scholarship, and corroboration in other texts (primary sources) from the region (Canaan) all over the place.
Interestingly, this deeper dive into the translation also equates the sons of God as the angels of God, which also makes a whole lot of sense if you think in terms of the “first children” of God (perhaps some sort of extra-dimensional or higher dimensional (four dimensional e.g.) entity. This idea of a higher dimensional being (not bound by what we think of as the “physical” universe) is a trope which is literally everywhere in ancient religions, including in the bible itself.
Here’s a deeper dive into “Yahweh as son of El.” That’s just one take. There are numerous such articles of scholarship. At the least there is substantial reason to doubt the present day translation of the Bible (OT) we have on numerous issues, not the least of which is the belief of the parentage of the entity we call Yahweh.
I could do this all day, pointing out such discrepancies in translation (I have countless pages of such issues), but I prefer to just consider the attempts to equate “The Source of All Things” with the words and actions of Yahweh as presented in the bible we have, and see if they make any sense at all.
Consider a few examples (there are many more):
First there’s the entire concept that a handful of people are “The Chosen People of The Source of All Things,” and they have a “Promised Land.” Why would the Source of All Things select a very tiny subset of the hundreds of millions of people that existed at the time, on a tiny speck of a planet, in a MASSIVELY HUGE universe as his “special people.” Why would he select a few hundred square miles, that happens to be the homeland of the people in question already (the "Israelites" were just a subset of the Canaanites), as the "Promised Land." Quite frankly, it's not that great of a place, but it was where they lived, and they separated themselves from the larger group of Canaanites through "The Law," written by the Priest Class of those same people.
What about the people in India, for example? Are they just screwed because Yahweh selected a couple hundred thousand Jews as special? What about the hundreds of millions of people in the Americas who had never heard of Yahweh or the Jews? No promised land for them, much less "salvation". On the contrary, the Chosen would later be instrumental in wiping out those Americans and taking their land a couple thousand years later. What about the people on [insert your favorite non Earth planet here]? They are totally FUBAR. They aren't The Jews. They don't get to be part of "Gods Chosen."
If you think I'm being obtuse, you really need to read your bible. This concept of The Jews as being chosen above all others is literally everywhere. It's not even slightly hidden. They get all sorts of special privileges, because of their genetics.
What does the Source of All Things need with 'the tithe," AKA a tenth of everyone’s income (an income tax…)? Why does the Source of All Things need the best cuts of meat from each harvest? Why does the Source of All Things need the firstborn sons of every family? Why does the Source of All Things allow for those that don’t want to sacrifice their firstborn sons (or give them to the priests as slaves, which was also part of The Law) to pay a “redemption” (a "substitute tax" on firstborns, paid in gold or silver or other goods). Do you know who it was who actually got the tithes, and the firstborns, and the best cuts of meats, and the redemption monies? The exact same group of people who were the authors of The Law in the first place, the Priest Class of Jews, an aristocracy.
Why did the Source of All Things demand child sacrifice (or any sacrifice) in the first place? It is the SOURCE OF ALL THINGS!!! Why does it demand these things? Why did the Source of All Things slaughter all the first born sons of the Egyptians and/or the “Israelites” who were non-Yahweh worshipers in the beginning of the Exodus? Yahweh literally murdered countless innocent children (or rather, had “angels” do his murdering for him). No matter how you spin that story, the CHILDREN did nothing to deserve the end of their life. What does the Source of All Things need with such murder and mayhem so that his CHOSEN RACE OF PEOPLE (a genetic line) would be “let go” from a place where they were they had leadership positions in finance and government (just like always).
What about Exodus 34:14, when the Israelites being told to go murder the people who live in the "Promised Land" and steal everything from them?
For you will not bow in worship to another god, for ‘Yahweh Is Jealous’ is his name, he is a jealous God (emphasis mine)
What kind of Source of All Things is named Jealous? What can the Source be “Jealous” of? It’s the Source of ALL Things!
This goes on, page after page of issues; racism, sexism, condoning slavery, murdering and condoning murder, rape, etc.
I assert that no one who actually believes that the bible is “The Whole Truth,” and inspired by the Source of All Things has actually read the book.
…
As far as I can tell, the ONLY way to rectify these issues is to presuppose that the Bible is absolute truth, and not the works of the Priest Class of Jews (an Elite class, an Aristocracy, the children of Arron) to rule the larger group of “Jews” (which is exactly what actually happened through their writing of The Law). It is only by that presupposition that a person can then attempt to make all of the problems; the racism, the sexism, the Chosen People, the Promised Land, the laudations of slavery as an institution, the entire concept that all other peoples on the Earth are simply “less than” The Jews, etc. All of those things are rampant in the OT, yet no one who is a True Believer bats an eyelash at them, or calls you "evil" if you point them out.
“We have the new covenant” they say. OK, but how about Yahweh’s statements that he is “unchanging.”
“We have faith that God can work it out as he sees fit.”
“It obviously makes sense to God, and that’s good enough for me.”
OK, but those aren’t statements using the process of reason, rather they are statements that throw reason out the window in favor of “your faith.” I respect that, but I think you have likely been brainwashed by the Priest Class of Jews who wrote that book to rule the rest of that people. Just like it is the exact same Priest Class of Jews (the same Aristocracy) that has pulled the wool over the eyes of the rest of the world in the exact same manner today.
A "full" response would take pages upon pages of references and quotes, but let's start with something easy.
That Yahweh was a child of El is stated in the Bible itself (Deut. 32, 8-9):
8 When the Most High apportioned[f] the nations, at his dividing up of the sons of humankind, he fixed the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the children of Israel.[g]
9 For Yahweh’s portion was his people, Jacob the share of his inheritance.
But there’s a problem with this verse. The “children of Israel” makes no sense in this context.
More ancient texts found recently give a very different translation that does make sense: (see footnote (g) on this page):
LXX reads “the number of the angels of God”; Dead Sea Scrolls reads “the number of the sons of God”
To restate (paraphrased):
The Most High (El) divided up humanity (the nations of the world) according to the number of the sons of God. Yahweh got the children of Israel.
There are numerous such translation changes that can be found in the bible when comparing old (Nag Hamadi, Dead Sea Scrolls, etc.) to new. Many, such as these may very well be minor edits intended to change the previously polytheistic Canaanites (who called themselves the “children of Israel”) into a monotheistic religion, under the rulership of the Priest Class of Jews. You can find scholarship, and corroboration in other texts (primary sources) from the region (Canaan) all over the place.
Interestingly, this deeper dive into the translation also equates the sons of God as the angels of God, which also makes a whole lot of sense if you think in terms of the “first children” of God (perhaps some sort of extra-dimensional or higher dimensional (four dimensional e.g.) entity. This idea of a higher dimensional being (not bound by what we think of as the “physical” universe) is a trope which is literally everywhere in ancient religions, including in the bible itself.
Here’s a deeper dive into “Yahweh as son of El.” That’s just one take. There are numerous such articles of scholarship. At the least there is substantial reason to doubt the present day translation of the Bible (OT) we have on numerous issues, not the least of which is the belief of the parentage of the entity we call Yahweh.
I could do this all day, pointing out such discrepancies in translation (I have countless pages of such issues), but I prefer to just consider the attempts to equate “The Source of All Things” with the words and actions of Yahweh as presented in the bible we have, and see if they make any sense at all.
Consider a few examples (there are many more):
First there’s the entire concept that a handful of people are “The Chosen People of The Source of All Things,” and they have a “Promised Land.” Why would the Source of All Things select a very tiny subset of the hundreds of millions of people that existed at the time, on a tiny speck of a planet, in a MASSIVELY HUGE universe as his “special people.” Why would he select a few hundred square miles, that happens to be the homeland of the people in question already (the "Israelites" were just a subset of the Canaanites), as the "Promised Land." Quite frankly, it's not that great of a place, but it was where they lived, and they separated themselves from the larger group of Canaanites through "The Law," written by the Priest Class of those same people.
What about the people in India, for example? Are they just screwed because Yahweh selected a couple hundred thousand Jews as special? What about the hundreds of millions of people in the Americas who had never heard of Yahweh or the Jews? No promised land for them, much less "salvation". On the contrary, the Chosen would later be instrumental in wiping out those Americans and taking their land a couple thousand years later. What about the people on [insert your favorite non Earth planet here]? They are totally FUBAR. They aren't The Jews. They don't get to be part of "Gods Chosen."
If you think I'm being obtuse, you really need to read your bible. This concept of The Jews as being chosen above all others is literally everywhere. It's not even slightly hidden. They get all sorts of special privileges, because of their genetics.
What does the Source of All Things need with 'the tithe," AKA a tenth of everyone’s income (an income tax…)? Why does the Source of All Things need the best cuts of meat from each harvest? Why does the Source of All Things need the firstborn sons of every family? Why does the Source of All Things allow for those that don’t want to sacrifice their firstborn sons (or give them to the priests as slaves, which was also part of The Law) to pay a “redemption” (a "substitute tax" on firstborns, paid in gold or silver or other goods). Do you know who was the go between for those who paid the tithes, and gave their firstborns, and their best cuts of meats, and their redemption monies? The exact same group of people who were the authors of The Law in the first place, the Priest Class of Jews, an aristocracy.
Why did the Source of All Things demand child sacrifice (or any sacrifice) in the first place? It is the SOURCE OF ALL THINGS!!! Why does it demand these things? Why did the Source of All Things slaughter all the first born sons of the Egyptians and/or the “Israelites” who were non-Yahweh worshipers in the beginning of the Exodus? Yahweh literally murdered countless innocent children (or rather, had “angels” do his murdering for him). No matter how you spin that story, the CHILDREN did nothing to deserve the end of their life. What does the Source of All Things need with such murder and mayhem so that his CHOSEN RACE OF PEOPLE (a genetic line) would be “let go” from a place where they were they had leadership positions in finance and government (just like always).
What about Exodus 34:14, when the Israelites being told to go murder the people who live in the "Promised Land" and steal everything from them?
For you will not bow in worship to another god, for ‘Yahweh Is Jealous’ is his name, he is a jealous God (emphasis mine)
What kind of Source of All Things is named Jealous? What can the Source be “Jealous” of? It’s the Source of ALL Things!
This goes on, page after page of issues; racism, sexism, condoning slavery, murdering and condoning murder, rape, etc.
I assert that no one who actually believes that the bible is “The Whole Truth,” and inspired by the Source of All Things has actually read the book.
…
As far as I can tell, the ONLY way to rectify these issues is to presuppose that the Bible is absolute truth, and not the works of the Priest Class of Jews (an Elite class, an Aristocracy, the children of Arron) to rule the larger group of “Jews” (which is exactly what actually happened through their writing of The Law). It is only by that presupposition that a person can then attempt to make all of the problems; the racism, the sexism, the Chosen People, the Promised Land, the laudations of slavery as an institution, the entire concept that all other peoples on the Earth are simply “less than” The Jews, etc. All of those things are rampant in the OT, yet no one who is a True Believer bats an eyelash at them, or calls you "evil" if you point them out.
“We have the new covenant” they say. OK, but how about Yahweh’s statements that he is “unchanging.”
“We have faith that God can work it out as he sees fit.”
“It obviously makes sense to God, and that’s good enough for me.”
OK, but those aren’t statements using the process of reason, rather they are statements that throw reason out the window in favor of “your faith.” I respect that, but I think you have likely been brainwashed by the Priest Class of Jews who wrote that book to rule the rest of that people. Just like it is the exact same Priest Class of Jews (the same Aristocracy) that has pulled the wool over the eyes of the rest of the world in the exact same manner today.
A "full" response would take pages upon pages of references and quotes, but let's start with something easy.
That Yahweh was a child of El is stated in the Bible itself (Deut. 32, 8-9):
8 When the Most High apportioned[f] the nations, at his dividing up of the sons of humankind, he fixed the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the children of Israel.[g]
9 For Yahweh’s portion was his people, Jacob the share of his inheritance.
But there’s a problem with this verse. The “children of Israel” makes no sense in this context.
More ancient texts found recently give a very different translation that does make sense: (see footnote (g) on this page):
LXX reads “the number of the angels of God”; Dead Sea Scrolls reads “the number of the sons of God”
To restate (paraphrased):
The Most High (El) divided up humanity (the nations of the world) according to the number of the sons of God. Yahweh got the children of Israel.
There are numerous such translation changes that can be found in the bible when comparing old (Nag Hamadi, Dead Sea Scrolls, etc.) to new. Many, such as these may very well be minor edits intended to change the previously polytheistic Canaanites (who called themselves the “children of Israel”) into a monotheistic religion, under the rulership of the Priest Class of Jews. You can find scholarship, and corroboration in other texts (primary sources) from the region (Canaan) all over the place.
Interestingly, this deeper dive into the translation also equates the sons of God as the angels of God, which also makes a whole lot of sense if you think in terms of the “first children” of God (perhaps some sort of extra-dimensional or higher dimensional (four dimensional e.g.) entity. This idea of a higher dimensional being (not bound by what we think of as the “physical” universe) is a trope which is literally everywhere in ancient religions, including in the bible itself.
Here’s a deeper dive into “Yahweh as son of El.” That’s just one take. There are numerous such articles of scholarship. At the least there is substantial reason to doubt the present day translation of the Bible (OT) we have on numerous issues, not the least of which is the belief of the parentage of the entity we call Yahweh.
I could do this all day, pointing out such discrepancies in translation (I have countless pages of such issues), but I prefer to just consider the attempts to equate “The Source of All Things” with the words and actions of Yahweh as presented in the bible we have, and see if they make any sense at all.
Consider a few examples (there are many more):
First there’s the entire concept that a handful of people are “The Chosen People of The Source of All Things,” and they have a “Promised Land.” Why would the Source of All Things select a very tiny subset of the hundreds of millions of people that existed at the time, on a tiny speck of a planet, in a MASSIVELY HUGE universe as his “special people.” Why would he select a few hundred square miles, that happens to be the homeland of the people in question already (the "Israelites" were just a subset of the Canaanites), as the "Promised Land." Quite frankly, it's not that great of a place, but it was where they lived, and they separated themselves from the larger group of Canaanites through "The Law," written by the Priest Class of those same people.
What about the people in India, for example? Are they just screwed because Yahweh selected a couple hundred thousand Jews as special? What about the hundreds of millions of people in the Americas who had never heard of Yahweh or the Jews? No promised land for them, much less "salvation". On the contrary, the Chosen would later be instrumental in wiping out those Americans and taking their land a couple thousand years later. What about the people on [insert your favorite non Earth planet here]? They are totally FUBAR. They aren't The Jews. They don't get to be part of "Gods Chosen."
If you think I'm being obtuse, you really need to read your bible. This concept of The Jews as being chosen above all others is literally everywhere. It's not even slightly hidden. They get all sorts of special privileges, because of their genetics.
What does the Source of All Things need with a tenth of everyone’s income (an income tax…)? Why does the Source of All Things need the best cuts of meat from each harvest? Why does the Source of All Things need the firstborn sons of every family? Why does the Source of All Things allow for those that don’t want to sacrifice their firstborn sons (or give them to the priests as slaves, which was also part of The Law) to pay a “redemption” (a "substitute tax" on firstborns, paid in gold or silver or other goods). Do you know who was the go between for those who paid the tithes, and gave their firstborns, and their best cuts of meats, and their redemption monies? The exact same group of people who were the authors of The Law in the first place, the Priest Class of Jews, an aristocracy.
Why did the Source of All Things demand child sacrifice (or any sacrifice) in the first place? It is the SOURCE OF ALL THINGS!!! Why does it demand these things? Why did the Source of All Things slaughter all the first born sons of the Egyptians and/or the “Israelites” who were non-Yahweh worshipers in the beginning of the Exodus? Yahweh literally murdered countless innocent children (or rather, had “angels” do his murdering for him). No matter how you spin that story, the CHILDREN did nothing to deserve the end of their life. What does the Source of All Things need with such murder and mayhem so that his CHOSEN RACE OF PEOPLE (a genetic line) would be “let go” from a place where they were they had leadership positions in finance and government (just like always).
What about Exodus 34:14, when the Israelites being told to go murder the people who live in the "Promised Land" and steal everything from them?
For you will not bow in worship to another god, for ‘Yahweh Is Jealous’ is his name, he is a jealous God (emphasis mine)
What kind of Source of All Things is named Jealous? What can the Source be “Jealous” of? It’s the Source of ALL Things!
This goes on, page after page of issues; racism, sexism, condoning slavery, murdering and condoning murder, rape, etc.
I assert that no one who actually believes that the bible is “The Whole Truth,” and inspired by the Source of All Things has actually read the book.
…
As far as I can tell, the ONLY way to rectify these issues is to presuppose that the Bible is absolute truth, and not the works of the Priest Class of Jews (an Elite class, an Aristocracy, the children of Arron) to rule the larger group of “Jews” (which is exactly what actually happened through their writing of The Law). It is only by that presupposition that a person can then attempt to make all of the problems; the racism, the sexism, the Chosen People, the Promised Land, the laudations of slavery as an institution, the entire concept that all other peoples on the Earth are simply “less than” The Jews, etc. All of those things are rampant in the OT, yet no one who is a True Believer bats an eyelash at them, or calls you "evil" if you point them out.
“We have the new covenant” they say. OK, but how about Yahweh’s statements that he is “unchanging.”
“We have faith that God can work it out as he sees fit.”
“It obviously makes sense to God, and that’s good enough for me.”
OK, but those aren’t statements using the process of reason, rather they are statements that throw reason out the window in favor of “your faith.” I respect that, but I think you have likely been brainwashed by the Priest Class of Jews who wrote that book to rule the rest of that people. Just like it is the exact same Priest Class of Jews (the same Aristocracy) that has pulled the wool over the eyes of the rest of the world in the exact same manner today.
A "full" response would take pages upon pages of references and quotes, but let's start with something easy.
That Yahweh was a child of El is stated in the Bible itself (Deut. 32, 8-9):
8 When the Most High apportioned[f] the nations, at his dividing up of the sons of humankind, he fixed the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the children of Israel.[g]
9 For Yahweh’s portion was his people, Jacob the share of his inheritance.
But there’s a problem with this verse. The “children of Israel” makes no sense in this context.
More ancient texts found recently give a very different translation that does make sense: (see footnote (g) on this page):
LXX reads “the number of the angels of God”; Dead Sea Scrolls reads “the number of the sons of God”
To restate (paraphrased):
The Most High (El) divided up humanity (the nations of the world) according to the number of the sons of God. Yahweh got the children of Israel.
There are numerous such translation changes that can be found in the bible when comparing old (Nag Hamadi, Dead Sea Scrolls, etc.) to new. Many, such as these may very well be minor edits intended to change the previously polytheistic Canaanites (who called themselves the “children of Israel”) into a monotheistic religion, under the rulership of the Priest Class of Jews. You can find scholarship, and corroboration in other texts (primary sources) from the region (Canaan) all over the place.
Interestingly, this deeper dive into the translation also equates the sons of God as the angels of God, which also makes a whole lot of sense if you think in terms of the “first children” of God (perhaps some sort of extra-dimensional or higher dimensional (four dimensional e.g.) entity. This idea of a higher dimensional being (not bound by what we think of as the “physical” universe) is a trope which is literally everywhere in ancient religions, including in the bible itself.
Here’s a deeper dive into “Yahweh as son of El.” That’s just one take. There are numerous such articles of scholarship. At the least there is substantial reason to doubt the present day translation of the Bible (OT) we have on numerous issues, not the least of which is the belief of the parentage of the entity we call Yahweh.
I could do this all day, pointing out such discrepancies in translation (I have countless pages of such issues), but I prefer to just consider the attempts to equate “The Source of All Things” with the words and actions of Yahweh as presented in the bible we have, and see if they make any sense at all.
Consider a few examples (there are many more):
First there’s the entire concept that a handful of people are “The Chosen People of The Source of All Things,” and they have a “Promised Land.” Why would the Source of All Things select a very tiny subset of the hundreds of millions of people that existed at the time, on a tiny speck of a planet, in a MASSIVELY HUGE universe as his “special people.” Why would he select a few hundred square miles, that happens to be the homeland of the people in question already (the "Israelites" were just a subset of the Canaanites), as the "Promised Land." Quite frankly, it's not that great of a place, but it was where they lived, and they separated themselves from the larger group of Canaanites through "The Law," written by the Priest Class of those same people.
What about the people in India, for example? Are they just screwed because Yahweh selected a couple hundred thousand Jews as special? What about the hundreds of millions of people in the Americas who had never heard of Yahweh or the Jews? No promised land for them, much less "salvation". On the contrary, the Chosen would later be instrumental in wiping out those Americans and taking their land a couple thousand years later. What about the people on [insert your favorite non Earth planet here]? They are totally FUBAR. They aren't The Jews. They don't get to be part of "Gods Chosen."
If you think I'm being obtuse, you really need to read your bible. This concept of The Jews as being chosen above all others is literally everywhere. It's not even slightly hidden. They get all sorts of special privileges. I'll touch on a couple below.
What does the Source of All Things need with a tenth of everyone’s income (an income tax…)? Why does the Source of All Things need the best cuts of meat from each harvest? Why does the Source of All Things need the firstborn sons of every family? Why does the Source of All Things allow for those that don’t want to sacrifice their firstborn sons (or give them to the priests as slaves, which was also part of The Law) to pay a “redemption” (a "substitute tax" on firstborns, paid in gold or silver or other goods). Do you know who was the go between for those who paid the tithes, and gave their firstborns, and their best cuts of meats, and their redemption monies? The exact same group of people who were the authors of The Law in the first place, the Priest Class of Jews, an aristocracy.
Why did the Source of All Things demand child sacrifice (or any sacrifice) in the first place? It is the SOURCE OF ALL THINGS!!! Why does it demand these things? Why did the Source of All Things slaughter all the first born sons of the Egyptians and/or the “Israelites” who were non-Yahweh worshipers in the beginning of the Exodus? Yahweh literally murdered countless innocent children (or rather, had “angels” do his murdering for him). No matter how you spin that story, the CHILDREN did nothing to deserve the end of their life. What does the Source of All Things need with such murder and mayhem so that his CHOSEN RACE OF PEOPLE (a genetic line) would be “let go” from a place where they were they had leadership positions in finance and government (just like always).
What about Exodus 34:14, when the Israelites being told to go murder the people who live in the "Promised Land" and steal everything from them?
For you will not bow in worship to another god, for ‘Yahweh Is Jealous’ is his name, he is a jealous God (emphasis mine)
What kind of Source of All Things is named Jealous? What can the Source be “Jealous” of? It’s the Source of ALL Things!
This goes on, page after page of issues; racism, sexism, condoning slavery, murdering and condoning murder, rape, etc.
I assert that no one who actually believes that the bible is “The Whole Truth,” and inspired by the Source of All Things has actually read the book.
…
As far as I can tell, the ONLY way to rectify these issues is to presuppose that the Bible is absolute truth, and not the works of the Priest Class of Jews (an Elite class, an Aristocracy, the children of Arron) to rule the larger group of “Jews” (which is exactly what actually happened through their writing of The Law). It is only by that presupposition that a person can then attempt to make all of the problems; the racism, the sexism, the Chosen People, the Promised Land, the laudations of slavery as an institution, the entire concept that all other peoples on the Earth are simply “less than” The Jews, etc. All of those things are rampant in the OT, yet no one who is a True Believer bats an eyelash at them, or calls you "evil" if you point them out.
“We have the new covenant” they say. OK, but how about Yahweh’s statements that he is “unchanging.”
“We have faith that God can work it out as he sees fit.”
“It obviously makes sense to God, and that’s good enough for me.”
OK, but those aren’t statements using the process of reason, rather they are statements that throw reason out the window in favor of “your faith.” I respect that, but I think you have likely been brainwashed by the Priest Class of Jews who wrote that book to rule the rest of that people. Just like it is the exact same Priest Class of Jews (the same Aristocracy) that has pulled the wool over the eyes of the rest of the world in the exact same manner today.
A "full" response would take pages upon pages of references and quotes, but let's start with something easy.
That Yahweh was a child of El is stated in the Bible itself (Deut. 32, 8-9):
8 When the Most High apportioned[f] the nations, at his dividing up of the sons of humankind, he fixed the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the children of Israel.[g]
9 For Yahweh’s portion was his people, Jacob the share of his inheritance.
But there’s a problem with this verse. The “children of Israel” makes no sense in this context.
More ancient texts found recently give a very different translation that does make sense: (see footnote (g) on this page):
LXX reads “the number of the angels of God”; Dead Sea Scrolls reads “the number of the sons of God”
To restate (paraphrased):
The Most High (El) divided up humanity (the nations of the world) according to the number of the sons of God. Yahweh got the children of Israel.
There are numerous such translation changes that can be found in the bible when comparing old (Nag Hamadi, Dead Sea Scrolls, etc.) to new. Many, such as these may very well be minor edits intended to change the previously polytheistic Canaanites (who called themselves the “children of Israel”) into a monotheistic religion, under the rulership of the Priest Class of Jews. You can find scholarship, and corroboration in other texts (primary sources) from the region (Canaan) all over the place.
Interestingly, this deeper dive into the translation also equates the sons of God as the angels of God, which also makes a whole lot of sense if you think in terms of the “first children” of God (perhaps some sort of extra-dimensional or higher dimensional (four dimensional e.g.) entity. This idea of a higher dimensional being (not bound by what we think of as the “physical” universe) is a trope which is literally everywhere in ancient religions, including in the bible itself.
Here’s a deeper dive into “Yahweh as son of El.” That’s just one take. There are numerous such articles of scholarship. At the least there is substantial reason to doubt the present day translation of the Bible (OT) we have on numerous issues, not the least of which is the belief of the parentage of the entity we call Yahweh.
I could do this all day, pointing out such discrepancies in translation (I have countless pages of such issues), but I prefer to just consider the attempts to equate “The Source of All Things” with the words and actions of Yahweh as presented in the bible we have, and see if they make any sense at all.
Consider a few examples (there are many more):
First there’s the entire concept that a handful of people are “The Chosen People of The Source of All Things,” and they have a “Promised Land.” Why would the Source of All Things select a very tiny subset of the hundreds of millions of people that existed at the time, on a tiny speck of a planet, in a MASSIVELY HUGE universe as his “special people.”
What about the people in India, for example? Are they just screwed because Yahweh selected a couple hundred thousand Jews as special? What about the hundreds of millions of people in the Americas who had never heard of Yahweh or the Jews? No promised land for them, much less "salvation". On the contrary, the Chosen would later be instrumental in wiping out those Americans and taking their land a couple thousand years later. What about the people on [insert your favorite non Earth planet here]? They are totally FUBAR. They aren't The Jews. They don't get to be part of "Gods Chosen."
If you think I'm being obtuse, you really need to read your bible. This concept of The Jews as being chosen above all others is literally everywhere. It's not even slightly hidden. They get all sorts of special privileges. I'll touch on a couple below.
What does the Source of All Things need with a tenth of everyone’s income (an income tax…)? Why does the Source of All Things need the best cuts of meat from each harvest? Why does the Source of All Things need the firstborn sons of every family? Why does the Source of All Things allow for those that don’t want to sacrifice their firstborn sons (or give them to the priests as slaves, which was also part of The Law) to pay a “redemption” (a "substitute tax" on firstborns, paid in gold or silver or other goods). Do you know who was the go between for those who paid the tithes, and gave their firstborns, and their best cuts of meats, and their redemption monies? The exact same group of people who were the authors of The Law in the first place, the Priest Class of Jews, an aristocracy.
Why did the Source of All Things demand child sacrifice (or any sacrifice) in the first place? It is the SOURCE OF ALL THINGS!!! Why does it demand these things? Why did the Source of All Things slaughter all the first born sons of the Egyptians and/or the “Israelites” who were non-Yahweh worshipers in the beginning of the Exodus? Yahweh literally murdered countless innocent children (or rather, had “angels” do his murdering for him). No matter how you spin that story, the CHILDREN did nothing to deserve the end of their life. What does the Source of All Things need with such murder and mayhem so that his CHOSEN RACE OF PEOPLE (a genetic line) would be “let go” from a place where they were they had leadership positions in finance and government (just like always).
What about Exodus 34:14, when the Israelites being told to go murder the people who live in the "Promised Land" and steal everything from them?
For you will not bow in worship to another god, for ‘Yahweh Is Jealous’ is his name, he is a jealous God (emphasis mine)
What kind of Source of All Things is named Jealous? What can the Source be “Jealous” of? It’s the Source of ALL Things!
This goes on, page after page of issues; racism, sexism, condoning slavery, murdering and condoning murder, rape, etc.
I assert that no one who actually believes that the bible is “The Whole Truth,” and inspired by the Source of All Things has actually read the book.
…
As far as I can tell, the ONLY way to rectify these issues is to presuppose that the Bible is absolute truth, and not the works of the Priest Class of Jews (an Elite class, an Aristocracy, the children of Arron) to rule the larger group of “Jews” (which is exactly what actually happened through their writing of The Law). It is only by that presupposition that a person can then attempt to make all of the problems; the racism, the sexism, the Chosen People, the Promised Land, the laudations of slavery as an institution, the entire concept that all other peoples on the Earth are simply “less than” The Jews, etc. All of those things are rampant in the OT, yet no one who is a True Believer bats an eyelash at them, or calls you "evil" if you point them out.
“We have the new covenant” they say. OK, but how about Yahweh’s statements that he is “unchanging.”
“We have faith that God can work it out as he sees fit.”
“It obviously makes sense to God, and that’s good enough for me.”
OK, but those aren’t statements using the process of reason, rather they are statements that throw reason out the window in favor of “your faith.” I respect that, but I think you have likely been brainwashed by the Priest Class of Jews who wrote that book to rule the rest of that people. Just like it is the exact same Priest Class of Jews (the same Aristocracy) that has pulled the wool over the eyes of the rest of the world in the exact same manner today.
A "full" response would take pages upon pages of references and quotes, but let's start with something easy.
That Yahweh was a child of El is stated in the Bible itself (Deut. 32, 8-9):
8 When the Most High apportioned[f] the nations, at his dividing up of the sons of humankind, he fixed the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the children of Israel.[g]
9 For Yahweh’s portion was his people, Jacob the share of his inheritance.
But there’s a problem with this verse. The “children of Israel” makes no sense in this context.
More ancient texts found recently give a very different translation that does make sense: (see footnote (g) on this page):
LXX reads “the number of the angels of God”; Dead Sea Scrolls reads “the number of the sons of God”
To restate (paraphrased):
The Most High (El) divided up humanity (the nations of the world) according to the number of the sons of God. Yahweh got the children of Israel.
There are numerous such translation changes that can be found in the bible when comparing old (Nag Hamadi, Dead Sea Scrolls, etc.) to new. Many, such as these may very well be minor edits intended to change the previously polytheistic Canaanites (who called themselves the “children of Israel”) into a monotheistic religion, under the rulership of the Priest Class of Jews. You can find scholarship, and corroboration in other texts (primary sources) from the region (Canaan) all over the place.
Interestingly, this deeper dive into the translation also equates the sons of God as the angels of God, which also makes a whole lot of sense if you think in terms of the “first children” of God (perhaps some sort of extra-dimensional or higher dimensional (four dimensional e.g.) entity. This idea of a higher dimensional being (not bound by what we think of as the “physical” universe) is a trope which is literally everywhere in ancient religions, including in the bible itself.
Here’s a deeper dive into “Yahweh as son of El.” That’s just one take. There are numerous such articles of scholarship. At the least there is substantial reason to doubt the present day translation of the Bible (OT) we have on numerous issues, not the least of which is the belief of the parentage of the entity we call Yahweh.
I could do this all day, pointing out such discrepancies in translation (I have countless pages of such issues), but I prefer to just consider the attempts to equate “The Source of All Things” with the words and actions of Yahweh as presented in the bible we have, and see if they make any sense at all.
Consider a few examples (there are many more):
First there’s the entire concept that a handful of people are “The Chosen People of Yahweh,” and they have a “Promised Land.” Why would the Source of All Things select a very tiny subset of the hundreds of millions of people that existed at the time, on a tiny speck of a planet, in a MASSIVELY HUGE universe as his “special people.”
What about the people in India, for example? Are they just screwed because Yahweh selected a couple hundred thousand Jews as special? What about the hundreds of millions of people in the Americas who had never heard of Yahweh or the Jews? No promised land for them, much less "salvation". On the contrary, the Chosen would later be instrumental in wiping out those Americans and taking their land a couple thousand years later. What about the people on [insert your favorite non Earth planet here]? They are totally FUBAR. They aren't The Jews. They don't get to be part of "Gods Chosen."
If you think I'm being obtuse, you really need to read your bible. This concept of The Jews as being chosen above all others is literally everywhere. It's not even slightly hidden. They get all sorts of special privileges. I'll touch on a couple below.
What does the Source of All Things need with a tenth of everyone’s income (an income tax…)? Why does the Source of All Things need the best cuts of meat from each harvest? Why does the Source of All Things need the firstborn sons of every family? Why does the Source of All Things allow for those that don’t want to sacrifice their firstborn sons (or give them to the priests as slaves, which was also part of The Law) to pay a “redemption” (a "substitute tax" on firstborns, paid in gold or silver or other goods). Do you know who was the go between for those who paid the tithes, and gave their firstborns, and their best cuts of meats, and their redemption monies? The exact same group of people who were the authors of The Law in the first place, the Priest Class of Jews, an aristocracy.
Why did the Source of All Things demand child sacrifice (or any sacrifice) in the first place? It is the SOURCE OF ALL THINGS!!! Why does it demand these things? Why did the Source of All Things slaughter all the first born sons of the Egyptians and/or the “Israelites” who were non-Yahweh worshipers in the beginning of the Exodus? Yahweh literally murdered countless innocent children (or rather, had “angels” do his murdering for him). No matter how you spin that story, the CHILDREN did nothing to deserve the end of their life. What does the Source of All Things need with such murder and mayhem so that his CHOSEN RACE OF PEOPLE (a genetic line) would be “let go” from a place where they were they had leadership positions in finance and government (just like always).
What about Exodus 34:14, when the Israelites being told to go murder the people who live in the "Promised Land" and steal everything from them?
For you will not bow in worship to another god, for ‘Yahweh Is Jealous’ is his name, he is a jealous God (emphasis mine)
What kind of Source of All Things is named Jealous? What can the Source be “Jealous” of? It’s the Source of ALL Things!
This goes on, page after page of issues; racism, sexism, condoning slavery, murdering and condoning murder, rape, etc.
I assert that no one who actually believes that the bible is “The Whole Truth,” and inspired by the Source of All Things has actually read the book.
…
As far as I can tell, the ONLY way to rectify these issues is to presuppose that the Bible is absolute truth, and not the works of the Priest Class of Jews (an Elite class, an Aristocracy, the children of Arron) to rule the larger group of “Jews” (which is exactly what actually happened through their writing of The Law). It is only by that presupposition that a person can then attempt to make all of the problems; the racism, the sexism, the Chosen People, the Promised Land, the laudations of slavery as an institution, the entire concept that all other peoples on the Earth are simply “less than” The Jews, etc. All of those things are rampant in the OT, yet no one who is a True Believer bats an eyelash at them, or calls you "evil" if you point them out.
“We have the new covenant” they say. OK, but how about Yahweh’s statements that he is “unchanging.”
“We have faith that God can work it out as he sees fit.”
“It obviously makes sense to God, and that’s good enough for me.”
OK, but those aren’t statements using the process of reason, rather they are statements that throw reason out the window in favor of “your faith.” I respect that, but I think you have likely been brainwashed by the Priest Class of Jews who wrote that book to rule the rest of that people. Just like it is the exact same Priest Class of Jews (the same Aristocracy) that has pulled the wool over the eyes of the rest of the world in the exact same manner today.
A "full" response would take pages upon pages of references and quotes, but let's start with something easy.
That Yahweh was a child of El is stated in the Bible itself (Deut. 32, 8-9):
8 When the Most High apportioned[f] the nations, at his dividing up of the sons of humankind, he fixed the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the children of Israel.[g]
9 For Yahweh’s portion was his people, Jacob the share of his inheritance.
But there’s a problem with this verse. The “children of Israel” makes no sense in this context.
More ancient texts found recently give a very different translation that does make sense: (see footnote (g) on this page):
LXX reads “the number of the angels of God”; Dead Sea Scrolls reads “the number of the sons of God”
To restate (paraphrased):
The Most High (El) divided up humanity (the nations of the world) according to the number of the sons of God. Yahweh got the children of Israel.
There are numerous such translation changes that can be found in the bible when comparing old (Nag Hamadi, Dead Sea Scrolls, etc.) to new. Many, such as these may very well be minor edits intended to change the previously polytheistic Canaanites (who called themselves the “children of Israel”) into a monotheistic religion, under the rulership of the Priest Class of Jews. You can find scholarship, corroborated by other texts (primary sources) from the region (Canaan) all over the place.
Interestingly, this deeper dive into the translation also equates the sons of God as the angels of God, which also makes a whole lot of sense if you think in terms of the “first children” of God (perhaps some sort of extra-dimensional or higher dimensional (four dimensional e.g.) entity. This idea of a higher dimensional being (not bound by what we think of as the “physical” universe) is a trope which is literally everywhere in ancient religions, including in the bible itself.
Here’s a deeper dive into “Yahweh as son of El.” That’s just one take. There are numerous such articles of scholarship. At the least there is substantial reason to doubt the present day translation of the Bible (OT) we have on numerous issues, not the least of which is the belief of the parentage of the entity we call Yahweh.
I could do this all day, pointing out such discrepancies in translation (I have countless pages of such issues), but I prefer to just consider the attempts to equate “The Source of All Things” with the words and actions of Yahweh as presented in the bible we have, and see if they make any sense at all.
Consider a few examples (there are many more):
First there’s the entire concept that a handful of people are “The Chosen People of Yahweh,” and they have a “Promised Land.” Why would the Source of All Things select a very tiny subset of the hundreds of millions of people that existed at the time, on a tiny speck of a planet, in a MASSIVELY HUGE universe as his “special people.”
What about the people in India, for example? Are they just screwed because Yahweh selected a couple hundred thousand Jews as special? What about the hundreds of millions of people in the Americas who had never heard of Yahweh or the Jews? No promised land for them, much less "salvation". On the contrary, the Chosen would later be instrumental in wiping out those Americans and taking their land a couple thousand years later. What about the people on [insert your favorite non Earth planet here]? They are totally FUBAR. They aren't The Jews. They don't get to be part of "Gods Chosen."
If you think I'm being obtuse, you really need to read your bible. This concept of The Jews as being chosen above all others is literally everywhere. It's not even slightly hidden. They get all sorts of special privileges. I'll touch on a couple below.
What does the Source of All Things need with a tenth of everyone’s income (an income tax…)? Why does the Source of All Things need the best cuts of meat from each harvest? Why does the Source of All Things need the firstborn sons of every family? Why does the Source of All Things allow for those that don’t want to sacrifice their firstborn sons (or give them to the priests as slaves, which was also part of The Law) to pay a “redemption” (a "substitute tax" on firstborns, paid in gold or silver or other goods). Do you know who was the go between for those who paid the tithes, and gave their firstborns, and their best cuts of meats, and their redemption monies? The exact same group of people who were the authors of The Law in the first place, the Priest Class of Jews, an aristocracy.
Why did the Source of All Things demand child sacrifice (or any sacrifice) in the first place? It is the SOURCE OF ALL THINGS!!! Why does it demand these things? Why did the Source of All Things slaughter all the first born sons of the Egyptians and/or the “Israelites” who were non-Yahweh worshipers in the beginning of the Exodus? Yahweh literally murdered countless innocent children (or rather, had “angels” do his murdering for him). No matter how you spin that story, the CHILDREN did nothing to deserve the end of their life. What does the Source of All Things need with such murder and mayhem so that his CHOSEN RACE OF PEOPLE (a genetic line) would be “let go” from a place where they were they had leadership positions in finance and government (just like always).
What about Exodus 34:14, when the Israelites being told to go murder the people who live in the "Promised Land" and steal everything from them?
For you will not bow in worship to another god, for ‘Yahweh Is Jealous’ is his name, he is a jealous God (emphasis mine)
What kind of Source of All Things is named Jealous? What can the Source be “Jealous” of? It’s the Source of ALL Things!
This goes on, page after page of issues; racism, sexism, condoning slavery, murdering and condoning murder, rape, etc.
I assert that no one who actually believes that the bible is “The Whole Truth,” and inspired by the Source of All Things has actually read the book.
…
As far as I can tell, the ONLY way to rectify these issues is to presuppose that the Bible is absolute truth, and not the works of the Priest Class of Jews (an Elite class, an Aristocracy, the children of Arron) to rule the larger group of “Jews” (which is exactly what actually happened through their writing of The Law). It is only by that presupposition that a person can then attempt to make all of the problems; the racism, the sexism, the Chosen People, the Promised Land, the laudations of slavery as an institution, the entire concept that all other peoples on the Earth are simply “less than” The Jews, etc. All of those things are rampant in the OT, yet no one who is a True Believer bats an eyelash at them, or calls you "evil" if you point them out.
“We have the new covenant” they say. OK, but how about Yahweh’s statements that he is “unchanging.”
“We have faith that God can work it out as he sees fit.”
“It obviously makes sense to God, and that’s good enough for me.”
OK, but those aren’t statements using the process of reason, rather they are statements that throw reason out the window in favor of “your faith.” I respect that, but I think you have likely been brainwashed by the Priest Class of Jews who wrote that book to rule the rest of that people. Just like it is the exact same Priest Class of Jews (the same Aristocracy) that has pulled the wool over the eyes of the rest of the world in the exact same manner today.
A "full" response would take pages upon pages of references and quotes, but let's start with something easy.
That Yahweh was a child of El is stated in the Bible itself (Deut. 32, 8-9):
8 When the Most High apportioned[f] the nations, at his dividing up of the sons of humankind, he fixed the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the children of Israel.[g]
9 For Yahweh’s portion was his people, Jacob the share of his inheritance.
But there’s a problem with this verse. The “children of Israel” makes no sense in this context.
More ancient texts found recently give a very different translation that does make sense: (see footnote (g) on this page):
LXX reads “the number of the angels of God”; Dead Sea Scrolls reads “the number of the sons of God”
To restate (paraphrased):
The Most High (El) divided up humanity (the nations of the world) according to the number of the sons of God. Yahweh got the children of Israel.
There are numerous such translation changes that can be found in the bible when comparing old to new. Many, such as these may very well be minor edits intended to change the previously polytheistic Canaanites (who called themselves the “children of Israel”) into a monotheistic religion, under the rulership of the Priest Class of Jews. You can find scholarship, corroborated by other texts (primary sources) from the region (Canaan) all over the place.
Interestingly, this deeper dive into the translation also equates the sons of God as the angels of God, which also makes a whole lot of sense if you think in terms of the “first children” of God (perhaps some sort of extra-dimensional or higher dimensional (four dimensional e.g.) entity. This idea of a higher dimensional being (not bound by what we think of as the “physical” universe) is a trope which is literally everywhere in ancient religions, including in the bible itself.
Here’s a deeper dive into “Yahweh as son of El.” That’s just one take. There are numerous such articles of scholarship. At the least there is substantial reason to doubt the present day translation of the Bible (OT) we have on numerous issues, not the least of which is the belief of the parentage of the entity we call Yahweh.
I could do this all day, pointing out such discrepancies in translation (I have countless pages of such issues), but I prefer to just consider the attempts to equate “The Source of All Things” with the words and actions of Yahweh as presented in the bible we have, and see if they make any sense at all.
Consider a few examples (there are many more):
First there’s the entire concept that a handful of people are “The Chosen People of Yahweh,” and they have a “Promised Land.” Why would the Source of All Things select a very tiny subset of the hundreds of millions of people that existed at the time, on a tiny speck of a planet, in a MASSIVELY HUGE universe as his “special people.”
What about the people in India, for example? Are they just screwed because Yahweh selected a couple hundred thousand Jews as special? What about the hundreds of millions of people in the Americas who had never heard of Yahweh or the Jews? No promised land for them, much less "salvation". On the contrary, the Chosen would later be instrumental in wiping out those Americans and taking their land a couple thousand years later. What about the people on [insert your favorite non Earth planet here]? They are totally FUBAR. They aren't The Jews. They don't get to be part of "Gods Chosen."
If you think I'm being obtuse, you really need to read your bible. This concept of The Jews as being chosen above all others is literally everywhere. It's not even slightly hidden. They get all sorts of special privileges. I'll touch on a couple below.
What does the Source of All Things need with a tenth of everyone’s income (an income tax…)? Why does the Source of All Things need the best cuts of meat from each harvest? Why does the Source of All Things need the firstborn sons of every family? Why does the Source of All Things allow for those that don’t want to sacrifice their firstborn sons (or give them to the priests as slaves, which was also part of The Law) to pay a “redemption” (a "substitute tax" on firstborns, paid in gold or silver or other goods). Do you know who was the go between for those who paid the tithes, and gave their firstborns, and their best cuts of meats, and their redemption monies? The exact same group of people who were the authors of The Law in the first place, the Priest Class of Jews, an aristocracy.
Why did the Source of All Things demand child sacrifice (or any sacrifice) in the first place? It is the SOURCE OF ALL THINGS!!! Why does it demand these things? Why did the Source of All Things slaughter all the first born sons of the Egyptians and/or the “Israelites” who were non-Yahweh worshipers in the beginning of the Exodus? Yahweh literally murdered countless innocent children (or rather, had “angels” do his murdering for him). No matter how you spin that story, the CHILDREN did nothing to deserve the end of their life. What does the Source of All Things need with such murder and mayhem so that his CHOSEN RACE OF PEOPLE (a genetic line) would be “let go” from a place where they were they had leadership positions in finance and government (just like always).
What about Exodus 34:14, when the Israelites being told to go murder the people who live in the "Promised Land" and steal everything from them?
For you will not bow in worship to another god, for ‘Yahweh Is Jealous’ is his name, he is a jealous God (emphasis mine)
What kind of Source of All Things is named Jealous? What can the Source be “Jealous” of? It’s the Source of ALL Things!
This goes on, page after page of issues; racism, sexism, condoning slavery, murdering and condoning murder, rape, etc.
I assert that no one who actually believes that the bible is “The Whole Truth,” and inspired by the Source of All Things has actually read the book.
…
As far as I can tell, the ONLY way to rectify these issues is to presuppose that the Bible is absolute truth, and not the works of the Priest Class of Jews (an Elite class, an Aristocracy, the children of Arron) to rule the larger group of “Jews” (which is exactly what actually happened through their writing of The Law). It is only by that presupposition that a person can then attempt to make all of the problems; the racism, the sexism, the Chosen People, the Promised Land, the laudations of slavery as an institution, the entire concept that all other peoples on the Earth are simply “less than” The Jews, etc. All of those things are rampant in the OT, yet no one who is a True Believer bats an eyelash at them, or calls you "evil" if you point them out.
“We have the new covenant” they say. OK, but how about Yahweh’s statements that he is “unchanging.”
“We have faith that God can work it out as he sees fit.”
“It obviously makes sense to God, and that’s good enough for me.”
OK, but those aren’t statements using the process of reason, rather they are statements that throw reason out the window in favor of “your faith.” I respect that, but I think you have likely been brainwashed by the Priest Class of Jews who wrote that book to rule the rest of that people. Just like it is the exact same Priest Class of Jews (the same Aristocracy) that has pulled the wool over the eyes of the rest of the world in the exact same manner today.
A "full" response would take pages upon pages of references and quotes, but let's start with something easy.
That Yahweh was a child of El is stated in the Bible itself (Deut. 32, 8-9):
8 When the Most High apportioned[f] the nations, at his dividing up of the sons of humankind, he fixed the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the children of Israel.[g]
9 For Yahweh’s portion was his people, Jacob the share of his inheritance.
But there’s a problem with this verse. The “children of Israel” makes no sense in this context.
More ancient texts found recently give a very different translation that does make sense: (see footnote (g) on this page):
LXX reads “the number of the angels of God”; Dead Sea Scrolls reads “the number of the sons of God”
To restate (paraphrased):
The Most High (El) divided up humanity (the nations of the world) according to the number of the sons of God. Yahweh got the children of Jacob.
There are numerous such translation changes that can be found in the bible when comparing old to new. Many, such as these may very well be minor edits intended to change the previously polytheistic Canaanites (who called themselves the “children of Israel”) into a monotheistic religion, under the rulership of the Priest Class of Jews. You can find scholarship, corroborated by other texts (primary sources) from the region (Canaan) all over the place.
Interestingly, this deeper dive into the translation also equates the sons of God as the angels of God, which also makes a whole lot of sense if you think in terms of the “first children” of God (perhaps some sort of extra-dimensional or higher dimensional (four dimensional e.g.) entity. This idea of a higher dimensional being (not bound by what we think of as the “physical” universe) is a trope which is literally everywhere in ancient religions, including in the bible itself.
Here’s a deeper dive into “Yahweh as son of El.” That’s just one take. There are numerous such articles of scholarship. At the least there is substantial reason to doubt the present day translation of the Bible (OT) we have on numerous issues, not the least of which is the belief of the parentage of the entity we call Yahweh.
I could do this all day, pointing out such discrepancies in translation (I have countless pages of such issues), but I prefer to just consider the attempts to equate “The Source of All Things” with the words and actions of Yahweh as presented in the bible we have, and see if they make any sense at all.
Consider a few examples (there are many more):
First there’s the entire concept that a handful of people are “The Chosen People of Yahweh,” and they have a “Promised Land.” Why would the Source of All Things select a very tiny subset of the hundreds of millions of people that existed at the time, on a tiny speck of a planet, in a MASSIVELY HUGE universe as his “special people.”
What about the people in India, for example? Are they just screwed because Yahweh selected a couple hundred thousand Jews as special? What about the hundreds of millions of people in the Americas who had never heard of Yahweh or the Jews? No promised land for them, much less "salvation". On the contrary, the Chosen would later be instrumental in wiping out those Americans and taking their land a couple thousand years later. What about the people on [insert your favorite non Earth planet here]? They are totally FUBAR. They aren't The Jews. They don't get to be part of "Gods Chosen."
If you think I'm being obtuse, you really need to read your bible. This concept of The Jews as being chosen above all others is literally everywhere. It's not even slightly hidden. They get all sorts of special privileges. I'll touch on a couple below.
What does the Source of All Things need with a tenth of everyone’s income (an income tax…)? Why does the Source of All Things need the best cuts of meat from each harvest? Why does the Source of All Things need the firstborn sons of every family? Why does the Source of All Things allow for those that don’t want to sacrifice their firstborn sons (or give them to the priests as slaves, which was also part of The Law) to pay a “redemption” (a "substitute tax" on firstborns, paid in gold or silver or other goods). Do you know who was the go between for those who paid the tithes, and gave their firstborns, and their best cuts of meats, and their redemption monies? The exact same group of people who were the authors of The Law in the first place, the Priest Class of Jews, an aristocracy.
Why did the Source of All Things demand child sacrifice (or any sacrifice) in the first place? It is the SOURCE OF ALL THINGS!!! Why does it demand these things? Why did the Source of All Things slaughter all the first born sons of the Egyptians and/or the “Israelites” who were non-Yahweh worshipers in the beginning of the Exodus? Yahweh literally murdered countless innocent children (or rather, had “angels” do his murdering for him). No matter how you spin that story, the CHILDREN did nothing to deserve the end of their life. What does the Source of All Things need with such murder and mayhem so that his CHOSEN RACE OF PEOPLE (a genetic line) would be “let go” from a place where they were they had leadership positions in finance and government (just like always).
What about Exodus 34:14, when the Israelites being told to go murder the people who live in the "Promised Land" and steal everything from them?
For you will not bow in worship to another god, for ‘Yahweh Is Jealous’ is his name, he is a jealous God (emphasis mine)
What kind of Source of All Things is named Jealous? What can the Source be “Jealous” of? It’s the Source of ALL Things!
This goes on, page after page of issues; racism, sexism, condoning slavery, murdering and condoning murder, rape, etc.
I assert that no one who actually believes that the bible is “The Whole Truth,” and inspired by the Source of All Things has actually read the book.
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As far as I can tell, the ONLY way to rectify these issues is to presuppose that the Bible is absolute truth, and not the works of the Priest Class of Jews (an Elite class, an Aristocracy, the children of Arron) to rule the larger group of “Jews” (which is exactly what actually happened through their writing of The Law). It is only by that presupposition that a person can then attempt to make all of the problems; the racism, the sexism, the Chosen People, the Promised Land, the laudations of slavery as an institution, the entire concept that all other peoples on the Earth are simply “less than” The Jews, etc. All of those things are rampant in the OT, yet no one who is a True Believer bats an eyelash at them, or calls you "evil" if you point them out.
“We have the new covenant” they say. OK, but how about Yahweh’s statements that he is “unchanging.”
“We have faith that God can work it out as he sees fit.”
“It obviously makes sense to God, and that’s good enough for me.”
OK, but those aren’t statements using the process of reason, rather they are statements that throw reason out the window in favor of “your faith.” I respect that, but I think you have likely been brainwashed by the Priest Class of Jews who wrote that book to rule the rest of that people. Just like it is the exact same Priest Class of Jews (the same Aristocracy) that has pulled the wool over the eyes of the rest of the world in the exact same manner today.