Certainly not with that attitude. Have you never been in a tall building? To a beach? In a plane? And no, I'm not talking about seeing a curved horizon, but rather observing objects and landmarks falling below the horizon from different viewing heights. There are so many experiments you can do yourself, and the results somehow always match up with what we've been told to believe. I'd challenge any flat-earther to show me using a flat earth map where the sun is setting and rising or the direction and distance its shadows should fall. Or how long it should take for a plane to fly between two distant cities by measuring on one of their maps. Or where the stars should be in the sky at any given moment in time. >
Im a climber by hobby, summited the highest peaks in north america. Flew countless times. There is certainly no height that we can reach to see the curve. I have pics at 20,000ft and 14,500ft to prove that.
But the horizon effect is the limitation of the optic being used. Start with your eyes, look for an object "disappearing behind the horizon". Now grab some binoculars and the object will reappear. Then repeat, find a further object "disappearing behind the horizon" with binoculars. Then grab a telescope and it reappears.
The rate at which objects should disappear is also incorrect. Standing upright, you should not be able to see another person standing upright at 5 miles. But you can, easily. You can see end to end at the salt flats. Ive been there too. Its 12 mile long and you can watch a car drive across the entire thing. At 12 miles that car should be 52ft below the horizon, but its not. Its in plain view.
Also on a flat earth map the sun and moon dont set. They are both up rotating around. There are many many examples that you can look up.
You're the one simply repeating what you've heard. "Water finds level" is a dumbed-down sound bite repeated by people (really mostly TikTokers) who think they now know better than everyone else while at the same time claiming nobody has the knowledge to test it themself. You think you're uncovering some kind of conspiracy, but you clearly only believe what you can see in your own view and are refusing to look and think further. >
Youre missing the point. If water finds level. All bodies of water all level/flat. Thats impossible on a round object.
I have no idea what you're talking about here. Feel free to educate me, and certainly feel free to ask for clarification on any specific globe-Earth topics that you don't think make sense. I'll be happy to answer.>
Terra Mar is a location that ghislaine maxwell claimed legal citizenship of at her trial. I cant believe how little traction that got. She is a legal citizen of a place that is not on any map and no one cares.
Certainly not with that attitude. Have you never been in a tall building? To a beach? In a plane? And no, I'm not talking about seeing a curved horizon, but rather observing objects and landmarks falling below the horizon from different viewing heights. There are so many experiments you can do yourself, and the results somehow always match up with what we've been told to believe. I'd challenge any flat-earther to show me using a flat earth map where the sun is setting and rising or the direction and distance its shadows should fall. Or how long it should take for a plane to fly between two distant cities by measuring on one of their maps. Or where the stars should be in the sky at any given moment in time. >
Im a climber by hobby, summited the highest peaks in north america. Flew countless times. There is certainly no height that we can reach to see the curve. I have pics at 20,000ft and 14,500ft to prove that.
But the horizon effect is the limitation of the optic being used. Start with your eyes, look for an object "disappearing behind the horizon". Now grab some binoculars and the object will reappear. Then repeat, find a further object "disappearing behind the horizon" with binoculars. Then grab a telescope and it reappears.
The rate at which objects should disappear is also incorrect. Standing upright, you should not be able to see another person standing upright at 5 miles. But you can, easily. You can see end to end at the salt flats. Ive been there too. Its 12 mile long and you can watch a car drive across the entire thing. At 12 miles that car should be 52ft below the horizon, but its not. Its in plain view.
Also on a flat earth map the sun and moon dont set. They are both up rotating around. There are many many examples that you can look up.
You're the one simply repeating what you've heard. "Water finds level" is a dumbed-down sound bite repeated by people (really mostly TikTokers) who think they now know better than everyone else while at the same time claiming nobody has the knowledge to test it themself. You think you're uncovering some kind of conspiracy, but you clearly only believe what you can see in your own view and are refusing to look and think further.
Honestly I can't even fathom how closed off someone's mind has to be to think the Earth is flat just because they haven't seen it from space themself or that "water finds level" is some kind of gotcha while they don't even understand enough high school level physics to know that water IS level on a globe when the water level is always the same distance from the globe's center of gravity.>
Youre missing the point. If water finds level. All bodies of water all level/flat. Thats impossible on a round object.
I have no idea what you're talking about here. Feel free to educate me, and certainly feel free to ask for clarification on any specific globe-Earth topics that you don't think make sense. I'll be happy to answer.>
Terra Mar is a location that ghislaine maxwell claimed legal citizenship of at her trial. I cant believe how little traction that got. She is a legal citizen of a place that is not on any map and no one cares.