There is certainly no height that we can reach to see the curve. I have pics at 20,000ft and 14,500ft to prove that.
As I said, I'm not talking about seeing a curved horizon. I'm well aware that it's imperceptible even at cruising altitude for most planes in the air. That does not prove a flat Earth or disprove a globe that is 8000 miles in diameter.
Now grab some binoculars and the object will reappear.
This is absolutely wrong and I am actually shocked to hear it. Binoculars, telescopes, and zoom lenses do not make objects appear that are otherwise actually invisible to the naked eye. They magnify what is already there. You are essentially changing your field of view, but not your point of view (unless your talking about a periscope of course).
The rate at which objects should disappear is also incorrect. Standing upright, you should not be able to see another person standing upright at 5 miles. But you can, easily. You can see end to end at the salt flats. Ive been there too. Its 12 mile long and you can watch a car drive across the entire thing. At 12 miles that car should be 52ft below the horizon, but its not. Its in plain view.
I'd love to see some evidence of that. Following this flat earth stuff for years, and I have never seen anything at the level you're suggesting. When I go to the beach here, tankers and cargo ships 10-15 miles out are like half obscured by the horizon. Forgive me if I doubt you're clearly seeing a car across the longest part of the flats.
Also, the distance you get from a calculation generally assumes a straight line to the subject, but does not take into account any atmospheric refraction, which would give you a slightly better view.
Also on a flat earth map the sun and moon dont set. They are both up rotating around. There are many many examples that you can look up.
Have you never watched a sunset from those peaks you've climbed? If the Earth is flat, and the horizon is however many thousands of feet below you, how can you explain to yourself that the sun disappears behind it?
Side note, I was once in Iceland in mid-summer and I watched the sun set and then rise like 10 minutes later (not from the other direction obviously, it just did a curve dip below the horizon). This is something that is easy to understand with a globe-earth model, and can be visualized in any globe-earth simulation, but it was still very interesting to see in person. If it was just floating around above the flat earth, it would never have gotten even that low.
Youre missing the point. If water finds level. All bodies of water all level/flat. Thats impossible on a round object.
You're missing the point that water is only "level" because it is attracted to the Earth's center of gravity, which is at the center of the globe. The "sea level" is always roughly the same distance from the center of the earth. I say roughly because I'm ignoring the variances in gravitational influence from land masses and the Moon (tides, duh).
Terra Mar is a location that ghislaine maxwell claimed legal citizenship of at her trial. I cant believe how little traction that got. She is a legal citizen of a place that is not on any map and no one cares.
Probably because if you read the deposition, even the judge did not take that claim seriously. Just because she made that claim does not give it any legal standing. She is not a legal citizen of a place that doesn't exist just because she said so. She is a citizen of the US, UK, and France.
There is certainly no height that we can reach to see the curve. I have pics at 20,000ft and 14,500ft to prove that.
As I said, I'm not talking about seeing a curved horizon. I'm well aware that it's imperceptible even at cruising altitude for most planes in the air. That does not prove a flat Earth or disprove a globe that is 8000 miles in diameter.
Now grab some binoculars and the object will reappear.
This is absolutely wrong and I am actually shocked to hear it. Binoculars, telescopes, and zoom lenses do not make objects appear that are otherwise actually invisible to the naked eye. They magnify what is already there. You are essentially changing your field of view, but not your point of view (unless your talking about a periscope of course).
The rate at which objects should disappear is also incorrect. Standing upright, you should not be able to see another person standing upright at 5 miles. But you can, easily. You can see end to end at the salt flats. Ive been there too. Its 12 mile long and you can watch a car drive across the entire thing. At 12 miles that car should be 52ft below the horizon, but its not. Its in plain view.
I'd love to see some evidence of that. Following this flat earth stuff for years, and I have never seen anything at the level you're suggesting. When I go to the beach here, tankers and cargo ships 10-15 miles out are like half obscured by the horizon. Forgive me if I doubt you're clearly seeing a car across the longest part of the flats.
Also, the distance you get from a calculation generally assumes a straight line to the subject, but does not take into account any atmospheric refraction, which would give you a slightly better view.
Also on a flat earth map the sun and moon dont set. They are both up rotating around. There are many many examples that you can look up.
Have you never watched a sunset from those peaks you've climbed? If the Earth is flat, and the horizon is however many thousands of feet below you, how can you explain to yourself that the sun disappears behind it?
Youre missing the point. If water finds level. All bodies of water all level/flat. Thats impossible on a round object.
You're missing the point that water is only "level" because it is attracted to the Earth's center of gravity, which is at the center of the globe. The "sea level" is always roughly the same distance from the center of the earth. I say roughly because I'm ignoring the variances in gravitational influence from land masses and the Moon (tides, duh).
Terra Mar is a location that ghislaine maxwell claimed legal citizenship of at her trial. I cant believe how little traction that got. She is a legal citizen of a place that is not on any map and no one cares.
Probably because if you read the deposition, even the judge did not take that claim seriously. Just because she made that claim does not give it any legal standing. She is not a legal citizen of a place that doesn't exist just because she said so. She is a citizen of the US, UK, and France.