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I'm trying to make this short but I think there are 2 talking points the left are attempting to make right now...

  1. Trump ordered the shutdowns (heard this at the bar this weekend, looked into it a little tonight as I couldn't believe the stupidity of the question)

-Timeline for 2020: https://www.ajmc.com/view/a-timeline-of-covid19-developments-in-2020 -Note: Cali ordered their state lockdown on 3/19/2020, not Trump

-Florida ordered a 30 day lockdown after "heavy criticism from state lawmakers" | https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/04/01/coronavirus-florida-desantis/

--The above article links to this: https://www.wfla.com/community/health/coronavirus/florida-lawmakers-sign-letter-urging-desantis-to-issue-statewide-stay-at-home-order/ -"DeSantis said he hasn’t issued a statewide stay-at-home order, partly because the White House hasn’t advised it." Cite above. Note the White House comment. -Interesting to note that the EUA was granted by the FDA to Pfizer-BioNTech in December, AFTER the election. 12/11, see https://www.ajmc.com/view/a-timeline-of-covid19-developments-in-2020 --It was the States that ordered lockdowns.

  1. The next "statement" I am waiting for is "Trump is responsible under Operation WarpSpeed...". He isn't a scientist that worked in the lab, all he did was free up money and gov't resources for a vaccine, but whatever... let's look at the timeline.

-Operation Warp Speed was launched 4/30/2020 | https://www.cdc.gov/museum/timeline/covid19.html#Mid-2021 . IMO, he needed something to get around the lockdowns that others wanted.

ALL DATES BELOW ARE FROM THE CDC TIMELINE.

-5/11/2020, "President Trump holds a briefing in the White House Rose Garden to claim that anyone who wants to get a coronavirus test can get one and encourages businesses around the country to reopen. He does not wear a mask."

-5/12/2020, "Dr. Anthony Fauci, the Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), testifies before the U.S. Senate that experts believe more people have died from COVID-19 than have been officially reported and warns against “re-opening” too quickly."

-8/12/2020, Obesity is found to be a factor. NOTE: THEN WHY CLOSE GYMS?

-11/20-21/2020, CDC recommends Americans stay home for Thanksgiving and revises the Travel Health Notice system for COVID-19. (After the election). NOTE: I also think it is important to remember that Trump made 2 hospital ships available. I don't believe that anyone died on these ships. This article was written on 4/30/2020 showing that fewer than 200 patients were treated on the NYC ship, https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2020/04/30/hospital-ship-comfort-departs-nyc-having-treated-fewer-than-200-patients/ . I find it interesting that no deaths were mentioned in the article for that ship.

-Trump "leaves" office on 1/20/2021.

-5/10/2021, FDA expands the emergency use authorization (EUA) for the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine to include all adolescents ages 12–15 years. AFTER TRUMP.

-8/11/2021, CDC releases a statement assuring the public that COVID-19 vaccination is safe for pregnant and breastfeeding people. CDC studies have found that an infection with COVID-19 during pregnancy increases the risk of developing severe illness from COVID-19 and that there is no evidence that any vaccines, including the COVID-19 vaccines, cause fertility problems in women or men. AFTER TRUMP.

-8/23/2021, FDA fully approves the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine for all people ages 18 years and older. Full FDA approval further reinforces that the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine has been shown to meet the agency’s high standards for safety, effectiveness, and consistent quality in manufacturing. AFTER TRUMP.

-9/29/2021, CDC issues an urgent health advisory to increase COVID-19 vaccination rates among people who are pregnant, breastfeeding, or who are trying to become pregnant. More than 22,000 pregnant people have been hospitalized with COVID-19 and 161 have died. COVID-19 in pregnant people carries a two-fold risk of admission to intensive care, a 70% increased risk of death, and adverse pregnancy outcomes that can include preterm birth, stillbirth, and the admission of a newborn into the ICU with COVID-19. AFTER TRUMP

-My recommendation is that you read the entire timeline both before and after Trump was in office and make a decision.

I know I am preaching to the choir here but I wanted to give people something to think about before they hear this in the wild. I tried warning people about the shot but no one listened (lost friends over it). I had to come to grips with everyone makes their own decisions. However, I've been thinking what riots the DS could start before Nov. (I don't think abortion or the past riots will work in many places right now). What if the white hats release data on the blood clots and turn the tables on them (what's in the data release for the trials, we don't have all the documentation yet)? If I was vaccinated and found out there was bad data on the clots and it was hidden from me (Note the dates above for who "should" get the shot)... maybe that could piss some people off (I'm not 100% behind that but it is something I wonder about).

Feel free to show me where I am wrong or if you can add anything (maybe a better cite for facts, I'm trying to use lefty cites so they can't dismiss it right away). Just ignore if someone already made a post like this. RB

2 years ago
1 score
Reason: Original

I'm trying to make this short but I think there are 2 talking points the left are attempting to make right now...

  1. Trump ordered the shutdowns (heard this at the bar this weekend, looked into it a little tonight as I couldn't believe the stupidity of the question) -Timeline for 2020: https://www.ajmc.com/view/a-timeline-of-covid19-developments-in-2020 -Note: Cali ordered their state lockdown on 3/19/2020, not Trump -Florida ordered a 30 day lockdown after "heavy criticism from state lawmakers" | https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/04/01/coronavirus-florida-desantis/ --The above article links to this: https://www.wfla.com/community/health/coronavirus/florida-lawmakers-sign-letter-urging-desantis-to-issue-statewide-stay-at-home-order/ -"DeSantis said he hasn’t issued a statewide stay-at-home order, partly because the White House hasn’t advised it." Cite above. Note the White House comment. -Interesting to note that the EUA was granted by the FDA to Pfizer-BioNTech in December, AFTER the election. 12/11, see https://www.ajmc.com/view/a-timeline-of-covid19-developments-in-2020 --It was the States that ordered lockdowns.

  2. The next "statement" I am waiting for is "Trump is responsible under Operation WarpSpeed...". He isn't a scientist that worked in the lab, all he did was free up money and gov't resources for a vaccine, but whatever... let's look at the timeline. -Operation Warp Speed was launched 4/30/2020 | https://www.cdc.gov/museum/timeline/covid19.html#Mid-2021 . IMO, he needed something to get around the lockdowns that others wanted.
    ALL DATES BELOW ARE FROM THE CDC TIMELINE. -5/11/2020, "President Trump holds a briefing in the White House Rose Garden to claim that anyone who wants to get a coronavirus test can get one and encourages businesses around the country to reopen. He does not wear a mask." -5/12/2020, "Dr. Anthony Fauci, the Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), testifies before the U.S. Senate that experts believe more people have died from COVID-19 than have been officially reported and warns against “re-opening” too quickly." -8/12/2020, Obesity is found to be a factor. NOTE: THEN WHY CLOSE GYMS? -11/20-21/2020, CDC recommends Americans stay home for Thanksgiving and revises the Travel Health Notice system for COVID-19. (After the election). NOTE: I also think it is important to remember that Trump made 2 hospital ships available. I don't believe that anyone died on these ships. This article was written on 4/30/2020 showing that fewer than 200 patients were treated on the NYC ship, https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2020/04/30/hospital-ship-comfort-departs-nyc-having-treated-fewer-than-200-patients/ . I find it interesting that no deaths were mentioned in the article for that ship. -Trump "leaves" office on 1/20/2021. -5/10/2021, FDA expands the emergency use authorization (EUA) for the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine to include all adolescents ages 12–15 years. AFTER TRUMP. -8/11/2021, CDC releases a statement assuring the public that COVID-19 vaccination is safe for pregnant and breastfeeding people. CDC studies have found that an infection with COVID-19 during pregnancy increases the risk of developing severe illness from COVID-19 and that there is no evidence that any vaccines, including the COVID-19 vaccines, cause fertility problems in women or men. AFTER TRUMP. -8/23/2021, FDA fully approves the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine for all people ages 18 years and older. Full FDA approval further reinforces that the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine has been shown to meet the agency’s high standards for safety, effectiveness, and consistent quality in manufacturing. AFTER TRUMP. -9/29/2021, CDC issues an urgent health advisory to increase COVID-19 vaccination rates among people who are pregnant, breastfeeding, or who are trying to become pregnant. More than 22,000 pregnant people have been hospitalized with COVID-19 and 161 have died. COVID-19 in pregnant people carries a two-fold risk of admission to intensive care, a 70% increased risk of death, and adverse pregnancy outcomes that can include preterm birth, stillbirth, and the admission of a newborn into the ICU with COVID-19. AFTER TRUMP -My recommendation is that you read the entire timeline both before and after Trump was in office and make a decision.

I know I am preaching to the choir here but I wanted to give people something to think about before they hear this in the wild. I tried warning people about the shot but no one listened (lost friends over it). I had to come to grips with everyone makes their own decisions. However, I've been thinking what riots the DS could start before Nov. (I don't think abortion or the past riots will work in many places right now). What if the white hats release data on the blood clots and turn the tables on them (what's in the data release for the trials, we don't have all the documentation yet)? If I was vaccinated and found out there was bad data on the clots and it was hidden from me (Note the dates above for who "should" get the shot)... maybe that could piss some people off (I'm not 100% behind that but it is something I wonder about).

Feel free to show me where I am wrong or if you can add anything (maybe a better cite for facts, I'm trying to use lefty cites so they can't dismiss it right away). Just ignore if someone already made a post like this. RB

2 years ago
1 score