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The entire premise is idiotic and false off the bat. The number of ICBM an Ohio class submarine can carry is not classified. And the actual amount they carry varies. There is no set number. Not every tube is hot. Or they may all be. So it’s impossible to break the law in the way described.

The detection range is also not a set number. In what conditions? What submarine? What enemy submarine? What speed? What depth? What is bottom depth? Was active sonar being used by enemy sub?

In order to actually convey Top Secret info about detection ranges he would have had to include all of those details. What boat. When it happened. Where it happened. What enemy hull number. And even then; the top secret issue wouldn’t that we were not detected, because that numbers changes constantly. It would be that we got so close to an enemy sub, probably by accident; and nearly caused a collision and international incident.

We don’t need to crawl up the ass of enemy subs. Water is a remarkable transmitter of sound. The hardest part of tracking is keeping range control and staying the established minimum safe distance away in order to avoid collision.

The story sounds like some bullshit made up by some idiot civilian who heard a rumor and just ran with it. And then some idiot prosecutor who wouldn’t know a Russian sub from a Chinese sub ran with it.

And that’s the last thing. We aren’t up the ass of Russian subs anyway. We are up the ass of Chinese submarines. We usually only get near the Russians when they are doing war games because they have a huge area of sea near them wired with sensors. It’s not worth getting our own subs noise signatures captured by Russian surveillance to try to get close to them for sound cuts.

It makes my stomach hurt to read shit this stupid.

Edit- I forgot about start treaty. Most people don’t know this, but the Russians can show up randomly at will at our SSBN bases and demand to see a missile tube. They go right down to the waterfront, they point out a boat, and they say tube 12 or whatever. They put a cone and a light on that tube, and everything is dropped to move the boat to handling shed. They sit in an RV and watch all night to make sure no one moves the cone. I would know. I have had to leave house at midnight because the russians showed up and we have to move the boat.

They get X number of random visits a year. If they pick an empty tube, oh well good luck next time. If they get a full tube, the Russians get to see everything. They pull everything off so they can see the warheads. We are not allowed to invent some new way to carry more warheads without violating the treaty. If we come up with some new missile for the next SSBN, the Russians will get access to that too. Although I hear they are just still using the Trident D5 and the entire point is moot because the Russians already know what’s in them.

We have the same rights for them as well. We conduct surprise inspections in the same way.

Bet you didn’t know that.

1 year ago
2 score
Reason: Original

The entire premise is idiotic and false off the bat. The number of ICBM an Ohio class submarine can carry is not classified. And the actual amount they carry varies. There is no set number. Not every tube is hot. Or they may all be. So it’s impossible to break the law in the way described.

The detection range is also not a set number. In what conditions? What submarine? What enemy submarine? What speed? What depth? What is bottom depth? Was active sonar being used by enemy sub?

In order to actually convey Top Secret info about detection ranges he would have had to include all of those details. What boat. When it happened. Where it happened. What enemy hull number. And even then; the top secret issue wouldn’t that we were not detected, because that numbers changes constantly. It would be that we got so close to an enemy sub, probably by accident; and nearly caused a collision and international incident.

We don’t need to crawl up the ass of enemy subs. Water is a remarkable transmitter of sound. The hardest part of tracking is keeping range control and staying the established minimum safe distance away in order to avoid collision.

The story sounds like some bullshit made up by some idiot civilian who heard a rumor and just ran with it. And then some idiot prosecutor who wouldn’t know a Russian sub from a Chinese sub ran with it.

And that’s the last thing. We aren’t up the ass of Russian subs anyway. We are up the ass of Chinese submarines. We usually only get near the Russians when they are doing war games because they have a huge area of sea near them wired with sensors. It’s not worth getting our own subs noise signatures captured by Russian surveillance to try to get close to them for sound cuts.

It makes my stomach hurt to read shit this stupid.

1 year ago
1 score