https://castbox.fm/episode/Ep.-23---Ben-and-Rob-from-Edge-of-Wonder-id4354036-id398000367?country=us

PS. As far as I know, the boys from Edge of Wonder teamed up with Seth from Man in America to set up a paid for content media operation. Cannot recall the name, and I haven't listened to Seth for more than two years.

I liked his content in the beginning, but drifted away from it.

https://castbox.fm/episode/Ep.-23---Ben-and-Rob-from-Edge-of-Wonder-id4354036-id398000367?country=us