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I disagree. The Crossfire Hurricane investigation began on July 31, 2016, over three months before Trump was elected. They never thought she would lose, initially. However, the actions of the Obamas, Clintons and the FBI definitely suggest they viewed a Trump victory as a real possibility and real threat at least by July, but more likely long before that. I also think you vastly underestimate the amount of foresight they had at the time. The way everything played out in the following years points to a carefully orchestrated plan for Obama, Clinton, Biden and the FBI to have all their bases covered, given various different scenarios. Sometimes, people here take "These people are stupid" far too literally. It is a taunt. They aren't actually stupid.

edit: Now that I think about it, the texts between Page and Strzok actually prove the deep state viewed Trump winning as a real scenario prior to the election and were creating safeguards should it actually happen. They specifically discuss the possibility in their messages prior to the 2016 election.

213 days ago
1 score
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I disagree. The Crossfire Hurricane investigation began on July 31, 2016, over three months before Trump was elected. They never thought she would lose, initially. However, the actions of the Obamas, Clintons and the FBI definitely suggest they viewed a Trump victory as a real possibility and real threat at least by July, but more likely long before that. I also think you vastly underestimate the amount of foresight they had at the time. The way everything played out in the following years points to a carefully orchestrated plan for Obama, Clinton, Biden and the FBI to have all their bases covered, given various different scenarios. Sometimes, people here take "These people are stupid" far too literally. It is a taunt. They aren't actually stupid.

213 days ago
1 score