First off, I must sincerely thank you for taking the time for long form conversation and debate. It's becoming harder and harder to find folks who will and can engage in good faith.
I think you're making my initial point for me, probably better than I initially laid it out - but my point entirely hinges on God being omniscient, which it would seem you do no subscribe to?
If God is omniscient, then yes, he knew they would disobey him, and chose to move forward with Creation anyway, and is culpable in all suffering since.
I don't, from a logical or rhetorical standpoint, have a problem with free will and an omniscient God. Knowing the outcome of a choice does not negate the act of making choice, but I know some philosphy-bros will debate endlessly on that point ;)
You expound on the very wrinkle I have with the Creation of Man in Genesis that I find disturbing, but seem to side-step it in entirely by saying God was surprised by their actions, which I think you might agree, is not a wide-held belief in Christianity?
First off, I must sincerely thank you for taking the time for long form conversation and debate. It's becoming harder and harder to find folks who will and can engage in good faith.
I think you're making my initial point for me, probably better than I initially laid it out - but my point entirely hinges on God being omniscient, which it would seem you do no subscribe to?
If God is omniscient, then yes, he knew they would disobey him, and chose to move forward with Creation anyway, and is culpable in all suffering since.
I don't, from a logical or rhetorical standpoint, have a problem with free will and an omniscient God. Knowing the outcome of a choice does not negate the act of making choice, but I know some philosphy-bros will debate endlessly on that point ;)
You expound of the very wrinkle I have with the Creation of Man in Genesis that I find disturbing, but seem to sidestep it in entirely by saying God was surprised by their actions, which I think you might agree, is not a wide-held belief in Christianity?