The hubris of these people.

The recovered parts of Kharkiv region in the northeast want the city of Kherson ... that surprised even Ukraine's biggest backers part:

Kharkov was given by the Russians rapidly, during the negotiations in Turkey that were already partially signed, when they retreated in two or three days. It was a goodwill gesture as part of the negotiations, which included removing the 40km blockade to Kiev. It was weird that Bucha massacre happened right afterwards, and the Ukrainians claimed victory in Kharkov, after BoJo helped by ripping up the agreement. A pretty mix of war and politics, but by no means a victory for the Ukrainians.

Kherson cost Ukraine an entire army. It was also no victory. The land on the left bank was conceded as it was a tactical withdrawal, evacuating the Town administartation to the coast, only to set up the new contact line on the Dniepr river, just as it was in WW2. Obviously, the Russian bridgehead on the left bank was untenable, as the Ukrainians were attempting to blow the only viable crossing. But that is not a 'victory'.

About tactical withdrawals: This is something that Nazis do not understand. They think withdrawal means defeat, so when the enemy withdraws there is a huge celebration in the press. However, even a cursory study of how cavalries fought for millenia in that region specifically, will speak of feigned retreats, fighting retreats, luring the enemy into boobytrapped bottlenecks, etc. etc. . And so, we witness the perfect traps: Krinky, which was the Ukrainian version of a over-extended Kherson bridgehead, which ended up with streets ful of bodies that could not be removed, because the rescue crews were killed on the river; and Rabotino, which was literally designed to become killing fields, by the apparent lack of tank traps and defences - a faux weak point, in fact. The Russian equivalent of FAFO.

The hubris of these people.

The recovered parts of Kharkiv region in the northeast want the city of Kherson ... that surprised even Ukraine's biggest backers part:

Kharkov was given by the Russians rapidly, during the negotiations in Turkey that were already partially signed, when they retreated in two or three days. It was a goodwill gesture as part of the negotiations, which included removing the 40km blockade to Kiev. It was weird that Bucha massacre happened right afterwards, and the Ukrainians claimed victory, after BoJo helped by ripping up the agreement. A pretty mix of war and politics.

Kherson cost Ukraine an entire army. It was by no means a victory. The land on the left bank was conceded as it was a tactical withdrawal, evacuating the Town administartation to the coast, , only to set up the new line on the Dniepr river, just as it was in WW2.