Continued Part 2.)
The clearweb is easily traceable. Everything has an IP address that traces back to a location unless you're using a VPN. TOR has a built in VPN of sorts. You enter through an entry node, use the net on a traffic node, and exit through an exit node. This is 3 separate handoffs.
However, if you open a clear web browser while on TOR, we can see you. This is what was happening. There was someone at the FBI using the clear web while on TOR. The FBI obviously uses VPN's. So now it all made sense to us.
When you connect to a VPN, there is a short "connection time" delay. What we were seeing was an FBI agent, logging into the darkweb, going to the site where CP was being sold, then opening a clear web browser. The VPN would connect, but in that small delay, we saw the connection.
"Finally!" we all thought. We'd have some backup. Some REAL cops to help bring this down. However, this was in 2014. Months go by. The website is still up. It's still operational. What is going on? So we call the FBI and tell them about the site. This was a problem.
This time, we got a call back. We were using VOIP so they had no idea who they were calling. We spoke to the agent briefly about what was going on. The agent listened intently and seemed to be taking notes. FINALLY we're getting some help!
At the end of our 5 minute long conversation, he asks if he can have another agent call back that handles these cases. OF COURSE you can! 1 hour later, we got the call. This agent was not very friendly and in fact, seemed a little annoyed at us.
After explaining everything, he asks us our names. We tell him we'd prefer to stay anonymous. This is where the problems started. "We're the FBI, we can find out who you are". Ok but why would you want too? We're giving you information. Why are you treating us this way?
"How do we know you're not part of this whole operation?" Bro, we're the ones TELLING you about it. On and on this went, trying to find out more about who we are. Email address? Land line number? Business address? ANYTHING they could to try figure out who we were.
Eventually the team leader took the headset and asked why they were asking more questions about us that the CP ring we had just exposed? To which the agent said, they are the federal bureau of INVESTIGATIONS. He is INVESTIGATING. Yeah, but you're investigating US. "Yes, we are".
So we hung up. We knew that we could never work with them again. Something wasn't adding up. A year goes by and low and behold, what do we see? It happened. The website was taken down. But how? By who? Well, wouldn't you know it, it was the Feds.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/09/playpen-story-fbis-unprecedented-and-illegal-hacking-operation
The official story is that the FBI operated this website for 6 months before finally making arrests. They used a watering hole attack to trace the users accessing the site. The FBI took a TON of shit by basically operating the most prolific CP website.
So the truth from this is simple. We saw them doing this a full year before this story broke. The FBI was more interested in US than stopping CP. The FBI distributed CP on the internet. The FEDERAL GOVT distributed CP. And a Judge agreed.
I think I have it all here for you to look over fren
Continued Part 2.)
The clearweb is easily traceable. Everything has an IP address that traces back to a location unless you're using a VPN. TOR has a built in VPN of sorts. You enter through an entry node, use the net on a traffic node, and exit through an exit node. This is 3 separate handoffs.
However, if you open a clear web browser while on TOR, we can see you. This is what was happening. There was someone at the FBI using the clear web while on TOR. The FBI obviously uses VPN's. So now it all made sense to us.
When you connect to a VPN, there is a short "connection time" delay. What we were seeing was an FBI agent, logging into the darkweb, going to the site where CP was being sold, then opening a clear web browser. The VPN would connect, but in that small delay, we saw the connection.
"Finally!" we all thought. We'd have some backup. Some REAL cops to help bring this down. However, this was in 2014. Months go by. The website is still up. It's still operational. What is going on? So we call the FBI and tell them about the site. This was a problem.
This time, we got a call back. We were using VOIP so they had no idea who they were calling. We spoke to the agent briefly about what was going on. The agent listened intently and seemed to be taking notes. FINALLY we're getting some help!
At the end of our 5 minute long conversation, he asks if he can have another agent call back that handles these cases. OF COURSE you can! 1 hour later, we got the call. This agent was not very friendly and in fact, seemed a little annoyed at us.
After explaining everything, he asks us our names. We tell him we'd prefer to stay anonymous. This is where the problems started. "We're the FBI, we can find out who you are". Ok but why would you want too? We're giving you information. Why are you treating us this way?
"How do we know you're not part of this whole operation?" Bro, we're the ones TELLING you about it. On and on this went, trying to find out more about who we are. Email address? Land line number? Business address? ANYTHING they could to try figure out who we were.
Eventually the team leader took the headset and asked why they were asking more questions about us that the CP ring we had just exposed? To which the agent said, they are the federal bureau of INVESTIGATIONS. He is INVESTIGATING. Yeah, but you're investigating US. "Yes, we are".
So we hung up. We knew that we could never work with them again. Something wasn't adding up. A year goes by and low and behold, what do we see? It happened. The website was taken down. But how? By who? Well, wouldn't you know it, it was the Feds.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/09/playpen-story-fbis-unprecedented-and-illegal-hacking-operation