I used to believe along the lines of Christian Zionists, pre-trib Rapture folks, even dabbled into dispensationalism (as I understood it) and now recently landed here (I don't know what "here" is anymore) the only thing I can say to it is that for the first time ever in my walk I have a grasp on eschatology that makes sense with the realities I see in the world today and the fog of dogmas and different beliefs on Bible prophecies is sort of.. irrelivent to me now.
As for "concepts from both views", one of which I never mentioned being dispensationalism, though I assume it's the same as futurism? The terms for these views are fairly new to me (I just thought it was all Christianity but different opinions on difficult issues) this is easily explained as being common to deceivers to include chunks of truth in their lies, so that doesn't surprise me.. the liars don't get to own the truths they twist just by slapping a new name on their bundles!
I don't believe there is a gap in the 70 weeks.
25Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. 26And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
To me it seems all weeks are accounted for, with the final week being the 3.5 years to execution / resurrection and the stoning of Steven (end of Israel only, beginning of Gospel to all nations) followed by the next 3.5 years, whatever happened then. I don't understand why this last week magically disappears and lasts for undetermined amount of time when all the others had a set time.
Your questioning has caused me to dig and learn even more details so I appreciate it, if you could shed some light on the gray areas in my views I'd be very grateful, also again I want to stress I'm not subscribed to any labels on this I just want to cut to the truth!
edit- forgot to reply to the OT heavenly bodies language parts... what came to me on this is that these references probably had meanings already assigned to them which were only known by the faithful remnant of Israel and these were shown to John and so he wrote Revelation with them, and of course Christ knew, and also used them. I bet they all reference the same things, all the way through, and I don't think they mean the actual stars, sun, or moon. I bet God can be quite cheeky and clever if He wants to keep something hidden, even using something with parallel earthly phenomena such as solar and lunar eclipses to veil coded language with, sort of like a double-veil. Idk if that made sense kek
I used to believe along the lines of Christian Zionists, pre-trib Rapture folks, even dabbled into dispensationalism (as I understood it) and now recently landed here (I don't know what "here" is anymore) the only thing I can say to it is that for the first time ever in my walk I have a grasp on eschatology that makes sense with the realities I see in the world today and the fog of dogmas and different beliefs on Bible prophecies is sort of.. irrelivent to me now.
As for "concepts from both views", one of which I never mentioned being dispensationalism, though I assume it's the same as futurism? The terms for these views are fairly new to me (I just thought it was all Christianity but different opinions on difficult issues) this is easily explained as being common to deceivers to include chunks of truth in their lies, so that doesn't surprise me.. the liars don't get to own the truths they twist just by slapping a new name on their bundles!
I don't believe there is a gap in the 70 weeks.
25Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. 26And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
To me it seems all weeks are accounted for, with the final week being the 3.5 years to execution / resurrection and the stoning of Steven (end of Israel only, beginning of Gospel to all nations) followed by the next 3.5 years, whatever happened then. I don't understand why this last week magically disappears and lasts for undetermined amount of time when all the others had a set time.
Your questioning has caused me to dig and learn even more details so I appreciate it, if you could shed some light on the gray areas in my views I'd be very grateful, also again I want to stress I'm not subscribed to any labels on this I just want to cut to the truth!