Here's another angle to consider.
People 20-30 are claiming kids are "too expensive", right?
That's what they're saying - right?
So if they're saying that - but you're saying that their real hinderances are comfort, consumption and lack of responsibility (which are true in some cases, certainly!)
If you're able to say that you see something that is behind their "it's too expensive" reason as their real reason, which they didn't say...
Then it's only fair game to offer other angles of assumption, which also paint a picture beyond the words "too expensive".
Let us use you and your wife as an example.
You Made It Work, yes?
So if you Made It Work - that phrase makes it sound like you didn't have everything gifted to you - in fact, you say your wife stayed at home and you had kids on a Modest Salary. Great!
Let me ask you something - what made it worth it for you guys?
What made the Discomfort, Lack of Consumption and Responsibility, (since you're not part of "Those People")...
What made those circumstances Worth it for you guys to "Make it work"?
Let me take you on a tour of the rest of the world for a second.
Have you heard the slogan the Youth in China are chanting these days? Youth being, the soon to be child-bearing (or would be) generation...
https://youtu.be/GJ7S-nKmAr4?t=1923
"Let it Rot", is what they are chanting.
Now - let me ask you for your insight.
They're not saying this directly with their words - but it seems you are good are understanding what is Not said with words...
"Let it Rot" - what do you suppose is going through the minds of those would-be child-bearing 20 somethings when they say that?
Here's a great summary phrase from this documentary - "They don't think working hard means they can have a better future."
Before we jump to the conclusion that means they must be lazy and hate hard work - let us look deeper.
Where do they get this idea from? From this documentary, it seems as though, they have watched the generations before them. They see how their lives serve "the boss" - or in the US "the company" - and they see how at the end of their parent's lives, their parents have worked a lot - and built a lot - but it feels very hollow and like an endless treadmill - missing the real payoff of life, which believe it or not, is living..not simply existing!
What does this paint? A sense of Hopelessness, is what I see and hear.
Now surely, there are some who are caught up in their comforts - they are lazy, they are forever consumers - they are lacking responsibility, yes...
But who trains generations?
We see this "let it rot" generation responding to what the generations before them showed them.
Is it possible then, that the people whom you're referring to as enamored with comfort, consumption and lack of responsibility - similarly learned such qualities from the Generations before them?
And if that is the case - where does that leave Us, as people who are here because we're assuming responsibility, not blindly consuming and living on the edges of comfort?
Sounds to me, like these kids, who have lost hope, because of what their parents showed them - need some new examples - or some new lessons.
From people who are not sitting and pointing - but instead, hearing them where they are at - knowing where they could be - and helping them across that bridge.
To us - our experiences are Everything.
But the world is much bigger than our individual experiences.
If we're going to be useful in this culture war - we have to meet people where they are at, instead of grumbling about them not being where We are.
Consider yourself fortunate that you got the lessons that led you and your Wife to the mindset of "Making it Work".
If you got that gift - consider passing it on.
Otherwise, it dies with you.
Here's another angle to consider.
People 20-30 are claiming kids are "too expensive", right?
That's what they're saying - right?
So if they're saying that - but you're saying that their real hinderances are comfort, consumption and lack of responsibility (which are true in some cases, certainly!)
If you're able to say that you see something that is behind their "it's too expensive" reason as their real reason, which they didn't say...
Then it's only fair game to offer other angles of assumption, which also paint a picture beyond the words "too expensive".
Let us use you and your wife as an example.
You Made It Work, yes?
So if you Made It Work - that phrase makes it sound like you didn't have everything gifted to you - in fact, you say your wife stayed at home and you had kids on a Modest Salary. Great!
Let me ask you something - what made it worth it for you guys?
What made the Discomfort, Lack of Consumption and Responsibility, (since you're not part of "Those People")...
What made those circumstances Worth it for you guys to "Make it work"?
Let me take you on a tour of the rest of the world for a second.
Have you heard the slogan the Youth in China are chanting these days? Youth being, the soon to be child-bearing (or would be) generation...
https://youtu.be/GJ7S-nKmAr4?t=1923
"Let it Rot", is what they are chanting.
Now - let me ask you for your insight.
They're not saying this directly with their words - but it seems you are good are understanding what is Not said with words...
"Let it Rot" - what do you suppose is going through the minds of those would-be child-bearing 20 somethings when they say that?
Here's a great summary phrase from this documentary - "They don't think working hard means they can have a better future."
Before we jump to the conclusion that means they must be lazy and hate hard work - let us look deeper.
Where do they get this idea from? From this documentary, it seems as though, they have watched the generations before them. They see how their lives serve "the boss" - or in the US "the company" - and they see how at the end of their parent's lives, their parents have worked a lot - and built a lot - but it feels very hollow and like an endless treadmill - missing the real payoff of life, which believe it or not, is living..not simply existing!
What does this paint? A sense of Hopelessness, is what I see and hear.
Now surely, there are some who are caught up in their comforts - they are lazy, they are forever consumers - they are lacking responsibility, yes...
But who trains generations?
We see this "let it rot" generation responding to what the generations before them showed them.
Is it possible then, that the people whom you're referring to as enamored with comfort, consumption and lack of responsibility - similarly learned such qualities from the Generations before them?
And if that is the case - where does that leave Us, as people who are here because we're assuming responsibility, not blindly consuming and living on the edges of comfort?
Sounds to me, like these kids, who have lost hope, because of what their parents showed them - need some new examples - or some new lessons.
From people who are not sitting and pointing - but instead, hearing them where they are at - knowing where they could be - and helping them across that bridge.
To us - our experiences are Everything.
But the world is much bigger than our individual experiences.
If we're going to be useful in this culture war - we have to meet people where they are at, instead of grumbling about them not being where We are.
Consider yourself fortunate that you got the lessons that let you and your Wife to the mindset of "Making it Work".
If you got that gift - consider passing it on.
Otherwise, it dies with you.
Here's another angle to consider.
People 20-30 are claiming kids are "too expensive", right?
That's what they're saying - right?
So if they're saying that - but you're saying that their real hinderances are comfort, consumption and lack of responsibility (which are true in some cases, certainly!)
If you're able to say that you see something that behind their "it's too expensive" reason as their real reason, which they didn't say...
Then it's only fair game to offer other angles of assumption, which also paint a picture beyond the words "too expensive".
Let us use you and your wife as an example.
You Made It Work, yes?
So if you Made It Work - that phrase makes it sounds like you didn't have everything gifted to you - in fact, you say your wife stayed at home and you had kids on a Modest Salary. Great!
Let me ask you something - what made it worth it for you guys?
What made the Discomfort, Lack of Consumption and Responsibility, (since you're not part of "Those People)...
What made those circumstances Worth it for you guys to "Make it work"?
Let me take you on a tour of the rest of the world for a second.
Have you heard the slogan the Youth in China are chanting these days? Youth being, the soon to be child-bearing (or would be) generation...
https://youtu.be/GJ7S-nKmAr4?t=1923
"Let it Rot", is what they are chanting.
Now - let me ask you for your insight.
They're not saying this directly with their words - but it seems you are good are understanding what is Not said with words...
"Let it Rot" - what do you suppose is going through the minds of those would-be child-bearing 20 somethings when they say that?
Here's a great summary phrase from this documentary - "They don't think working hard means they can have a better future."
Before we jump to the conclusion that means they must be lazy and hate hard work - let us look deeper.
Where do they get this idea from? From this documentary, it seems as though, they have watched the generations before them. They see how their lives serve "the boss" - or in the US "the company" - and they see how at the end of their parent's lives, their parents have worked a lot - and built a lot - but it feels very hollow and like an endless treadmill - missing the real payoff of life, which believe it or not, is living..not simply existing!
What does this paint? A sense of Hopelessness, is what I see and hear.
Now surely, there are some who are caught up in their comforts - they are lazy, they are forever consumers - they are lacking responsibility, yes...
But who trains generations?
We see this "let it rot" generation responding to what the generations before them showed them.
Is it possible then, that the people whom you're referring to as enamored with comfort, consumption and lack of responsibility - similarly learned such qualities from the Generations before them?
And if that is the case - where does that leave Us, as people who are here because we're assuming responsibility, not blindly consuming and living on the edges of comfort?
Sounds to me, like these kids, who have lost hope, because of what their parents showed them - need some new examples - or some new lessons.
From people who are not sitting and pointing - but instead, hearing them where they are at - knowing where they could be - and helping them across that bridge.
To us - our experiences are Everything.
But the world is much bigger than our individual experiences.
If we're going to be useful in this culture war - we have to meet people where they are at, instead of grumbling about them not being where We are.
Consider yourself fortunate that you got the lessons that let you and your Wife to the mindset of "Making it Work".
If you got that gift - consider passing it on.
Otherwise, it dies with you.