Jn. 8:58 - claims he existed before Abraham, which can be explained as God having a son before Abraham was alive.
Jn. 10:30 - claims to be "one with the Father" (see: https://biblehub.com/greek/1520.htm to dig into the word used for one) this is not an automatic "I am Him" statement.
Jn. 20:28 - Thomas called him his Lord and God. Does Thomas' statement have enough weight to make the stretch? Up to you. Many of his disciples had wrong impressions of various aspects of his ministry, and not all were openly refuted by Jesus.
Jn 1:1 - The only one you posted which possibly could mean Jesus is God Himself.
Jn. 10:33 - Jesus told the devil that it's a sin to "test the Lord your God" , because the devil was compelling Jesus to jump off a cliff and see if angels would rescue him. Who exactly is being tested by this act to see if they'd help Jesus? Think about it.
Lk. 4:12 - Same as Jn. 10:33
Rev. 22:13 - Jesus is the alpha and omega, beginning and end. Was it not said something along the lines of "God created the worlds THROUGH him (his son)? So we have Creator and we have Maker (the one who does the work according to the Creator's plan)
I ask you, is being regarded equal with someone the same as you being that someone?
Why did Jesus pray to the Father if he was the Father? Why has "all authority in heaven and on earth" been given to Jesus if he was the one who gave it to him? Who had it before?
Jesus "ascended into Heaven and sat down at the right hand of the Father" - how is this possible if Jesus was the Father?? He sat down at his own right hand?
I must address one point of yours directly:
Imagine claiming OTHER people aren't Christians while espousing blatant Gnostic heresies refuted in the New Testament
I disagree that the NT refuted them, that they are heretical, and that even if you were right, that somehow I'd lose MY RIGHT to call out Babylonian paganism wrapped in Christ's name! I also clearly stated that I could be wrong in my earlier comment above. This isn't a topic which alters the doctrines Christ taught us, so it shouldn't be one for Christian division, in my opinion.
edit- I assume the downvote will be accompanied by a response? Hello fren let's discuss, it shouldn't be hard and I don't bite! Well if I do I usually get convicted on the inside and relent my ego out of it 🥲
Jn. 8:58 - claims he existed before Abraham, which can be explained as God having a son before Abraham was alive.
Jn. 10:30 - claims to be "one with the Father" (see: https://biblehub.com/greek/1520.htm to dig into the word used for one) this is not an automatic "I am Him" statement.
Jn. 20:28 - Thomas called him his Lord and God. Does Thomas' statement have enough weight to make the stretch? Up to you. Many of his disciples had wrong impressions of various aspects of his ministry, and not all were openly refuted by Jesus.
Jn 1:1 - The only one you posted which possibly could mean Jesus is God Himself.
Jn. 10:33 - Jesus told the devil that it's a sin to "test the Lord your God" , because the devil was compelling Jesus to jump off a cliff and see if angels would rescue him. Who exactly is being tested by this act to see if they'd help Jesus? Think about it.
Lk. 4:12 - Same as Jn. 10:33
Rev. 22:13 - Jesus is the alpha and omega, beginning and end. Was it not said something along the lines of "God created the worlds THROUGH him (his son)? So we have Creator and we have Maker (the one who does the work according to the Creator's plan)
I ask you, is being regarded equal with someone the same as you being that someone?
Why did Jesus pray to the Father if he was the Father? Why has "all authority in heaven and on earth" been given to Jesus if he was the one who gave it to him? Who had it before?
Jesus "ascended into Heaven and sat down at the right hand of the Father" - how is this possible if Jesus was the Father?? He sat down at his own right hand?
I must address one point of yours directly:
Imagine claiming OTHER people aren't Christians while espousing blatant Gnostic heresies refuted in the New Testament
I disagree that the NT refuted them, that they are heretical, and that even if you were right, that somehow I'd lose MY RIGHT to call out Babylonian paganism wrapped in Christ's name! I also clearly stated that I could be wrong in my earlier comment above. This isn't a topic which alters the doctrines Christ taught us, so it shouldn't be one for Christian division, in my opinion.
edit- I assume the downvote will be accompanied by a response?
Jn. 8:58 - claims he existed before Abraham, which can be explained as God having a son before Abraham was alive.
Jn. 10:30 - claims to be "one with the Father" (see: https://biblehub.com/greek/1520.htm to dig into the word used for one) this is not an automatic "I am Him" statement.
Jn. 20:28 - Thomas called him his Lord and God. Does Thomas' statement have enough weight to make the stretch? Up to you. Many of his disciples had wrong impressions of various aspects of his ministry, and not all were openly refuted by Jesus.
Jn 1:1 - The only one you posted which possibly could mean Jesus is God Himself.
Jn. 10:33 - Jesus told the devil that it's a sin to "test the Lord your God" , because the devil was compelling Jesus to jump off a cliff and see if angels would rescue him. Who exactly is being tested by this act to see if they'd help Jesus? Think about it.
Lk. 4:12 - Same as Jn. 10:33
Rev. 22:13 - Jesus is the alpha and omega, beginning and end. Was it not said something along the lines of "God created the worlds THROUGH him (his son)? So we have Creator and we have Maker (the one who does the work according to the Creator's plan)
I ask you, is being regarded equal with someone the same as you being that someone?
Why did Jesus pray to the Father if he was the Father? Why has "all authority in heaven and on earth" been given to Jesus if he was the one who gave it to him? Who had it before?
Jesus "ascended into Heaven and sat down at the right hand of the Father" - how is this possible if Jesus was the Father?? He sat down at his own right hand?
I must address one point of yours directly:
Imagine claiming OTHER people aren't Christians while espousing blatant Gnostic heresies refuted in the New Testament
I disagree that the NT refuted them, that they are heretical, and that even if you were right, that somehow I'd lose MY RIGHT to call out Babylonian paganism wrapped in Christ's name! I also clearly stated that I could be wrong in my earlier comment above. This isn't a topic which alters the doctrines Christ taught us, so it shouldn't be one for Christian division, in my opinion.
edit- I assume the downvote will be accompanied by a response? Hello? Why is this so hard to talk about
Jn. 8:58 - claims he existed before Abraham, which can be explained as God having a son before Abraham was alive.
Jn. 10:30 - claims to be "one with the Father" (see: https://biblehub.com/greek/1520.htm to dig into the word used for one) this is not an automatic "I am Him" statement.
Jn. 20:28 - Thomas called him his Lord and God. Does Thomas' statement have enough weight to make the stretch? Up to you. Many of his disciples had wrong impressions of various aspects of his ministry, and not all were openly refuted by Jesus.
Jn 1:1 - The only one you posted which possibly could mean Jesus is God Himself.
Jn. 10:33 - Jesus told the devil that it's a sin to "test the Lord your God" , because the devil was compelling Jesus to jump off a cliff and see if angels would rescue him. Who exactly is being tested by this act to see if they'd help Jesus? Think about it.
Lk. 4:12 - Same as Jn. 10:33
Rev. 22:13 - Jesus is the alpha and omega, beginning and end. Was it not said something along the lines of "God created the worlds THROUGH him (his son)? So we have Creator and we have Maker (the one who does the work according to the Creator's plan)
I ask you, is being regarded equal with someone the same as you being that someone?
Why did Jesus pray to the Father if he was the Father? Why has "all authority in heaven and on earth" been given to Jesus if he was the one who gave it to him? Who had it before?
I must address one point of yours directly:
Imagine claiming OTHER people aren't Christians while espousing blatant Gnostic heresies refuted in the New Testament
I disagree that the NT refuted them, that they are heretical, and that even if you were right, that somehow I'd lose MY RIGHT to call out Babylonian paganism wrapped in Christ's name! I also clearly stated that I could be wrong in my earlier comment above. This isn't a topic which alters the doctrines Christ taught us, so it shouldn't be one for Christian division, in my opinion.
Jn. 8:58 - claims he existed before Abraham, which can be explained as God having a son before Abraham was alive.
Jn. 10:30 - claims to be "one with the Father" (see: https://biblehub.com/greek/1520.htm to dig into the word used for one) this is not an automatic "I am Him" statement.
Jn. 20:28 - Thomas called him his Lord and God. Does Thomas' statement have enough weight to make the stretch? Up to you. Many of his disciples had wrong impressions of various aspects of his ministry, and not all were openly refuted by Jesus.
Jn 1:1 - The only one you posted which possibly could mean Jesus is God Himself.
Jn. 10:33 - Jesus told the devil that it's a sin to "test the Lord your God" , because the devil was compelling Jesus to jump off a cliff and see if angels would rescue him. Who exactly is being tested by this act to see if they'd help Jesus? Think about it.
Lk. 4:12 - Same as Jn. 10:33
Rev. 22:13 - Jesus is the alpha and omega, beginning and end. Was it not said something along the lines of "God created the worlds THROUGH him (his son)? So we have Creator and we have Maker (the one who does the work according to the Creator's plan)
I ask you, is being regarded equal with someone the same as you being that someone?
Why did Jesus pray to the Father if he was the Father? Why has "all authority in heaven and on earth" been given to Jesus if he was the one who gave it to him? Who had it before?
I must address one point of yours directly:
Imagine claiming OTHER people aren't Christians while espousing blatant Gnostic heresies refuted in the New Testament
I disagree that the NT refuted them, that they are heretical, and that even if you were right, that somehow I'd lose MY RIGHT to call out Babylonian paganism wrapped in Christ's name! I also clearly stated that I could be wrong in my earlier comment above, so settle down. This isn't a topic which alters the doctrines Christ taught us, so it shouldn't be one for Christian division, in my opinion.
Jn. 8:58 - claims he existed before Abraham
Jn. 10:30 - claims to be "one with the Father" (see: https://biblehub.com/greek/1520.htm to dig into the word used for one)
Jn. 20:28 - Thomas called him his Lord and God. Does Thomas' statement have enough weight to make the stretch? Up to you.
Jn 1:1 - The only one you posted which possibly could mean Jesus is God Himself.
Jn. 10:33 - Jesus told the devil that it's a sin to "test the Lord your God" , because the devil was compelling Jesus to jump off a cliff and see if angels would rescue him. Who exactly is being tested by this act to see if they'd help Jesus? Think about it.
Lk. 4:12 - Same as Jn. 10:33
Rev. 22:13 - Jesus is the alpha and omega, beginning and end.
I ask you, is being regarded equal with someone the same as you being that someone?
Why did Jesus pray to the Father if he was the Father? Why has "all authority in heaven and on earth" been given to Jesus if he was the one who gave it to him? Who had it before?
I must address one point of yours directly:
Imagine claiming OTHER people aren't Christians while espousing blatant Gnostic heresies refuted in the New Testament
I disagree that the NT refuted them, that they are heretical, and that even if you were right, that somehow I'd lose MY RIGHT to call out Babylonian paganism wrapped in Christ's name! I also clearly stated that I could be wrong in my earlier comment above, so settle down. This isn't a topic which alters the doctrines Christ taught us, so it shouldn't be one for Christian division, in my opinion.