ok, well don't mean to black pill, but if everything that has happened in the past 8 years hasn't brung them around yet, imo, I don't think anything else will. But I could be wrong for sure, so In any case, good luck, and ur probably on the right track!

ok, well don't mean to black pill, but if everything that has happened in the past 8 years hasn't brung them around yet, imo, I don't think anything else will.