Ok, time to put my shill mask on and break this down before people run with it far and wide, making arguments that normies will poke all sorts of holes in.

So, before you try to redpill normies with this, a few things.

1. Anyone that was paying attention in 2017 is definitely going to remind you that Trump promised to "repeal and replace" the ACA on Day One of his first term in office. So, good luck on that one.

2. They're going to point out that the types of polices are not detailed above. If the pre-ACA policies were ones that didn't cover pre-existing conditions (VERY common before the ACA did away with that) then they, in all fairness, can not be evaluated as equal to plans that DO cover pre-existing conditions.

It's going to be pointed out that you're likely comparing apples to oranges, cheaper plans that don't cover much pre-ACA vs the premium plans post ACA. If you want to compare apples to apples, then go look for comparable plans pre and post ACA and make sure you're on equal footing.

3. Those numbers are ignoring the little matter of inflation, which I think we can all agree is a very real thing, seeing as how it's the main reason people rejected Biden and why Trump beat Harris. Go to any respected inflation calculator and plug in the numbers. The one I used said that $13,375 in 2009 is the equivalent of a little over 19k today. So, yeah, it's still way too much, but not quite as dramatic as before.

4. One of the reasons why the ACA hasn't "succeeded" as it "should" have, is that one of the factors that was supposed to help keep costs under control was eliminated by Trump in 2017. Remember how people used to have to pay a fine if they didn't have insurance? That fine was supposed to do a number of things like draw healthy people into the pool, who would offset the costs of those who were not as healthy. It's some really boring shit called adverse selection the insurance companies work with that I'd rather get fucked with a rusty fork than discuss any more than I absolutely have to. Go look it up if you're curious.

It was also supposed to encourage people to get health insurance so they would get regular medical care and not wait until a mild problem became an emergency and then go to the ER to get treated, which costs a metric fuck ton more than early or preemptive care, and makes the entire system cost more for everyone. A very common example of this is someone who gets a small injury or illness but instead of getting it treated early with routine care (like a cheaper than balls dose of antibiotics) they let it go until they absolutely can't deal with it anymore, go to the ER, have to be given much more expensive (and dangerous antibiotics) or even have to have body parts amputated due to gangrene. This is stuuuuupidly common with diabetics with neuropathy getting toes and feet and legs amputated because they don't control their diabetes as well as they should/could if they have health insurance with prescription coverage. It's stupid. And expensive. And if you find an ACA lover they will go off on you about how they think Trump getting rid of the fine for not having insurance fucked the ACA all up. Go prepared for that.

So, yeah, before you run off to try to redpill some normies with this, you might want to brush up on all that because I can guaranfuckingtee that you're likely to get responses like that.

Don't assume that because I point out what normies will say if you try to redpill them with that post that I agree with them.

I just want Anons to go prepared and not make us all look dumb. Because I have seen some of you to try to redpill normies on other boards and the entire time I'm doing this-🤦‍♀️. Please at least know the basics of what you're talking about before you go try to convince other people on it. Ok?

Ok, time to put my shill mask on and break this down before people run with it far and wide, making arguments that normies will poke all sorts of holes in.

So, before you try to redpill normies with this, a few things.

1. Anyone that was paying attention in 2017 is definitely going to remind you that Trump promised to "repeal and replace" the ACA on Day One of his first term in office. So, good luck on that one.

2. They're going to point out that the types of polices are not detailed above. If the pre-ACA policies were ones that didn't cover pre-existing conditions (VERY common before the ACA did away with that) then they, in all fairness, can not be evaluated as equal to plans that DO cover pre-existing conditions.

It's going to be pointed out that you're likely comparing apples to oranges, cheaper plans that don't cover much pre-ACA vs the premium plans post ACA. If you want to compare apples to apples, then go look for comparable plans pre and post ACA and make sure you're on equal footing.

3. Those numbers are ignoring the little matter of inflation, which I think we can all agree is a very real thing, seeing as how it's the main reason people rejected Biden and why Trump beat Harris. Go to any respected inflation calculator and plug in the numbers. The one I used said that $13,375 in 2009 is the equivalent of a little over 19k today. So, yeah, it's still way too much, but not quite as dramatic as before.

4. One of the reasons why the ACA hasn't "succeeded" as it "should" have, is that one of the factors that was supposed to help keep costs under control was eliminated by Trump in 2017. Remember how people used to have to pay a fine if they didn't have insurance? That fine was supposed to do a number of things like draw healthy people into the pool, who would offset the costs of those who were not as healthy. It's some really boring shit called adverse selection the insurance companies work with that I'd rather get fucked with a rusty fork than discuss any more than I absolutely have to. Go look it up if you're curious.

It was also supposed to encourage people to get health insurance so they would get regular medical care and not wait until a mild problem became an emergency and then go to the ER to get treated, which costs a metric fuck ton more than early or preemptive care, and makes the entire system cost more for everyone. A very common example of this is someone who gets a small injury or illness but instead of getting it treated early with routine care (like a cheaper than balls dose of antibiotics) they let it go into they absolutely can't deal with it anymore, go to the ER, have to be given much more expensive (and dangerous antibiotics) or even have to have body parts amputated due to gangrene. This is stuuuuupidly common with diabetics with neuropathy getting toes and feet and legs amputated because they don't control their diabetes as well. It's stupid. And expensive. And if you find an ACA lover they will go off on you about how they think Trump getting rid of the fine for not having insurance fucked the ACA all up. Go prepared for that.

So, yeah, before you run off to try to redpill some normies with this, you might want to brush up on all that because I can guaranfuckingtee that you're likely to get responses like that.

Don't assume that because I point out what normies will say if you try to redpill them with that post that I agree with them.

I just want Anons to go prepared and not make us all look dumb. Because I have seen some of you to try to redpill normies on other boards and the entire time I'm doing this-🤦‍♀️. Please at least know the basics of what you're talking about before you go try to convince other people on it. Ok?