Jeez. Cleopatra? You had to go back a thousand years to dig one up? And how did that turn out, btw? Oh, yeah the WOMAN leader that killed herself over a man. Oh

I wrote this to show how rare those examples are. And about Cleopatra...

She won with her brother. Seduced most powerful leader of her times - Ceasar. Later did the same with Mark Antonny. Were doing quite independent politics despite her country was weak. And yes technically Actium was "lost",but whole battle plan (already taken by Octavian's spy) was to escape from 2x stronger Octavian fleet - and that was exactly done - however with too big loses, the real reason Mark Antonny and Cleopatra lost were those too big loses and broken morale of soldiers. And this bitch tried to seduce also Octavian too but it not worked this time,and her army was shattered - it was why she committed suicide. Before this she send her (and Ceasar) son to India,unfortunately stupid kid (he was probably 17) believed some traitor and turned back - was captured and killed in the result.

Snake to boob was by the way then preferable alternative to be part of triumph of Octavian. In those times it was better than thing that happened to Vercingetorix after Ceasar won in Gallia. Many Roman senators committed suicides under ceasars too by cutting their veins. As for a women - she was quite competent leader in fact.

That's why I mentioned her.

Jeez. Cleopatra? You had to go back a thousand years to dig one up? And how did that turn out, btw? Oh, yeah the WOMAN leader that killed herself over a man. Oh

I wrote this to show how rare those examples are. And about Cleopatra...

She won with her brother. Seduced most powerful leader of her times - Ceasar. Later did the same with Mark Antony. Were doing quite independent politics despite her country was weak. And yes technically Actium was "lost",but whole battle plan (already taken by Octavian's spy) was to escape from 2x stronger Octavian fleet - and that was exactly done - however with too big loses, the real reason Mark Antonny and Cleopatra lost were those too big loses and broken morale of soldiers. And this bitch tried to seduce also Octavian too but it not worked this time,and her army was shattered - it was why she committed suicide. Before this she send her (and Ceasar) son to India,unfortunately stupid kid (he was probably 17) believed some traitor and turned back - was captured and killed in the result.

Snake to boob was by the way then preferable alternative to be part of triumph of Octavian. In those times it was better than thing that happened to Vercingetorix after Ceasar won in Gallia. Many Roman senators committed suicides under ceasars too by cutting their veins. As for a women - she was quite competent leader in fact.

That's why I mentioned her.

Jeez. Cleopatra? You had to go back a thousand years to dig one up? And how did that turn out, btw? Oh, yeah the WOMAN leader that killed herself over a man. Oh

I wrote this to show how rare those examples are. And about Cleopatra...

She won with her brother. Seduced most powerful leader of her times - Ceasar. Were doing quite independent politics despite her country was weak. And yes technically Actium was "lost",but whole battle plan (already taken by Octavian's spy) was to escape from 2x stronger Octavian fleet - and that was exactly done - however with too big loses, the real reason Mark Antonny and Cleopatra lost were those too big loses and broken morale of soldiers. And this bitch tried to seduce also Octavian too but it not worked this time,and her army was shattered - it was why she committed suicide. Before this she send her (and Ceasar) son to India,unfortunately stupid kid (he was probably 17) believed some traitor and turned back - was captured and killed in the result.

Snake to boob was by the way then preferable alternative to be part of triumph of Octavian. In those times it was better than thing that happened to Vercingetorix after Ceasar won in Gallia. Many Roman senators committed suicides under ceasars too by cutting their veins. As for a women - she was quite competent leader in fact.

That's why I mentioned her.

Jeez. Cleopatra? You had to go back a thousand years to dig one up? And how did that turn out, btw? Oh, yeah the WOMAN leader that killed herself over a man. Oh

I wrote this to show how rare those examples are. And about Cleopatra...

She won with her brother. Seduced most powerful leader of her times - Ceasar. Were doing quite independent politics despite her country was weak. And yes technically Actium was "lost",but whole battle plan (already taken by Octavian's spy) was to escape from 2x stronger Octavian fleet - and that was exactly done - however with too big loses, the real reason Mark Antonny and Cleopatra lost were those too big loses and broken morale of soldiers. And this bitch tried to seduce also Octavian too but it not worked this time,and her army was shattered - it was why she committed suicide. Before this she send her (and Ceasar) son to India,unfortunately stupid kid (he was probably 17) believed some traitor and turned back - was captured and killed in the result.

Snake to boob was by the way then preferable alternative to be part of triumph of Octavian. In those times it was better than thing that happened to Vercingetorix after Ceasar won in Gallia. Many Roman senators committed suicides under ceasars too by cutting their veins.

That's why I mentioned her.

Jeez. Cleopatra? You had to go back a thousand years to dig one up? And how did that turn out, btw? Oh, yeah the WOMAN leader that killed herself over a man. Oh

I wrote this to show how rare those examples are. And about Cleopatra...

She won with her brother. Seduced most powerful leader of her times - Ceasar. Were doing quite independent politics despite her country was weak. And yes technically Actium was "lost",but whole battle plan (already taken by Octavian's spy) was to escape from 2x stronger Octavian fleet - and that was exactly done - however with too big loses, the real reason Mark Antonny and Cleopatra lost were those too big loses and broken morale of soldiers. And this bitch tried to seduce also Octavian too but it not worked this time,and her army was shattered - it was why she committed suicide.

Snake to boob was then preferable alternative to be part of triumph of Octavian. In those times it was better than thing that happened to Vercingetorix after Ceasar won in Gallia. That's why I mentioned her.