lib here, from the other side of the conflict.

I don't think it's that common sense has been abandoned, it's that both sides -- lib and based -- are rewriting their common sense in response to the evidence they see, which is rarely a complete picture of a big complicated mess. All the common sense in the world won't help you if you assembled your way of thinking from bad evidence: the foundation is poisoned.

Make them a deal: come into the debate willing to admit you're wrong, as long as they're willing to admit the same. If you both come in willing to accept the possibility of being wrong, maybe there's a way to crack a hole in that brick wall between yourself and family.

But if you both plant your feet down, you clash and end up in a stalemate, and the wall -- so to speak -- gets another ten feet higher.

EDIT: Just a curious outsider here, trying to understand more about Q/anons straight from the source.

lib here, from the other side of the conflict.

I don't think it's that common sense has been abandoned, it's that both sides -- lib and based -- are rewriting their common sense in response to the evidence they see, which is rarely a complete picture of a big complicated mess. All the common sense in the world won't help you if you assembled your way of thinking from bad evidence: the foundation is poisoned.

Make them a deal: come into the debate willing to admit you're wrong, as long as they're willing to admit the same. If you both come in willing to accept the possibility of being wrong, maybe there's a way to crack a hole in that brick wall between yourself and family.

But if you both plant your feet down, you clash and end up in a stalemate, and the wall -- so to speak -- gets another ten feet higher.

EDIT: Just a curious outsider here, trying to understand more about Q/anons straight from the source. For whatever reason, my DMs are always open, he said, foolishly and with regret looming.

lib here, from the other side of the conflict.

I don't think it's that common sense has been abandoned, it's that both sides -- lib and based -- are rewriting their common sense in response to the evidence they see, which is rarely a complete picture of a big complicated mess. All the common sense in the world won't help you if you assembled your way of thinking from bad evidence: the foundation is poisoned.

Make them a deal: come into the debate willing to admit you're wrong, as long as they're willing to admit the same. If you both come in willing to accept the possibility of being wrong, maybe there's a way to crack a hole in that brick wall between yourself and family.

But if you both plant your feet down, you clash and end up in a stalemate, and the wall -- so to speak -- gets another ten feet higher.