[Extra Details c/o Adam Klasfeld]
Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyer said prosecutors plan to call "Jane's" brother "Brian" to back up her testimony. Defense claims that "Jane" contacted him after leaving the stand.
Menninger said that "Jane" told "Brian" that Maxwell's lawyer was an "expletive that rhymes with 'front'.'" Maxwell's defense wants to exclude "Brian's" testimony.
Judge Nathan expressed concerns about whether any coaching took place and is considering the request to exclude it. The prosecutor says that "Brian" informed the govt about the convo with "Jane," whom 'Brian' insists did not go into details of her testimony.
"Jane" told him "he should know that the defense attorney is an 'expletive,'" "Brian" told the govt.
Judge Nathan: The first task is for the govt to fully inquire about what 'Brian' learned from 'Jane' or anyone else" about the conversation.
To be clear:
At issue here is less the "expletive that rhymes with 'front'" than the conversation that took place. Ghislaine Maxwell's counsel is arguing that it could violate the court's sequestration order shielding witnesses from each other's testimony. The FBI witness who ended yesterday's proceedings has returned to the stand.
"All rise."
Jury Enters
Questioning of the FBI witness has resumed:
She identifies multiple photographs of Maxwell and Epstein. These photos are being identified as being from a CD the FBI agent reviewed from the Maxwell investigation.
Testimony ended yesterday with CDs being found during the 2019 raid on Epstein's NY townhouse, including inside his safe: https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1468231478609944582/photo/1 https://archive.ph/z4wFH
Various photographs are shown to the jury of the two of them embracing and images of Maxwell appearing to massage Epstein's foot. On cross examination, the FBI witness (Kimberly Meder) agrees that thousands of images were recovered — though she says she doesn't know when asked if tens of thousands were.
Q: In one set, there were more than 20,000. Is that right?
(Long pause as the witness reviews records, doesn't see the number, is prompted where to look and eventually replies yes.)
Asked whether she doesn't know whether the photos were altered, the witness replies: "Correct."
This witness's testimony concludes. The next witness, from the FBI's Computer Analysis Response Team (CART), introduces an email from "GMax" complaining about unsatisfactory housekeeping from John, apparently a clear reference to the prior witness Juan Alessi.
Dated May 25, 2001, "GMax" grouses in the missive: "I need to what if any list John is using and he needs to understand he is doing a truly awful job."
Among her complaints, she says the "massage creams etc in JE's bathroom were a mess." Intriguing new file created by "GMax" on Oct. 14, 2002, entered into evidence. It reads:
"Jeffrey and Ghislaine have been together, a couple, for the last 11 years. They are, contrary to what many people think, rarely apart — I almost always see them together."
"Ghislaine is highly intelligent and great company with a ready smile and an infectious laugh who always puts one at ones [sic] ease," the file created by "GMax" continues.
On cross-examination, the defense is establishing that the documents were written on a desktop and could not be geolocated.
Side note: The witness is treating the wrong letter of Ghislaine as silent. He's pronouncing it "Gis-ayne." It's "Ghee-lehn."
Recess
Trial continues and a witness testifying under the first name Carolyn takes the stand. An attorney clarifies she's testifying under her first name only, rather than a pseudonym.
Carolyn describes a relationship with someone named "Shawn," whom she says she was told was 17. She says she learned he was 14 at her birthday party. Through Shawn, Carolyn says, she met Virginia
She says she was introduced to give Epstein a massage and make money.
Q: About how old were you the first time you went to Jeffrey Epstein's house?
A: 14.
Carolyn describes meeting Maxwell for the first time.
"She had an accent and she had shoulder-length black hair."
Carolyn says she called her by her surname: Maxwell.
"Because I didn't exactly pronounce her first name correctly."
Maxwell took off her clothes, and Carolyn left on her bra and underwear, she testifies.
Carolyn: After 45 minutes of massaging his back, Epstein turned over, and Epstein and Virginia started having sex.
She says she and Virginia were both paid. Carolyn got $300.
Carolyn says she went to Epstein's house more than 100 times, two to three times a week, between the ages of 14 and 18. Her voice sounds faint and emotional throughout her testimony.
Explaining why she went, Carolyn says it's because she was young and "$300 was a lot of money." Carolyn said that she usually saw Maxwell when she entered the kitchen. "She would just let me know that Mr. Epstein would be back, that he was on a jog."
Carolyn says that she told Maxwell that her mother was an alcoholic and that she was molested. "I remember telling her that I had been raped and molested by grandfather starting at the age of four."
When invited to go to the island, Carolyn says, she told Maxwell she was "too young" and "there was no way in hell" she'd be allowed to go there.
Q: Did she touch you?
A: Yes.
Q: Where?
A: On my breasts.
Carolyn says she brought three friends to Epstein's house.
Asked what she was doing with the money she made at Jeffrey Epstein's house, Carolyn breaks down into tears when saying: "Buying drugs."
She says she was arrested for her drug use. "I handed the officer the drugs."
Q: Why did you do that?
A: Because I was an idiot. (she laughs)
She agrees she was later arrested for possessing stolen property. Carolyn says she went to therapy following those incidents. She says she later worked for an escort service and became a stripper. She sometimes had sex with men for money, she said.
(This is still the government's direct examination, apparently anticipating what Maxwell's attorneys will ask.)
Cross examination is beginning. The initial questions look into Carolyn's prior statements about Virginia Roberts. Flashback from Maxwell's defense opening:
"Carolyn was introduced to Epstein not by Ghislaine, by a woman named Virginia Roberts."
Recess
1920GMT
Cross-examination by Maxwell's lawyer Jeffrey Pagliuca resumes: He questions Carolyn about FBI notes of her interview in August 2017.
Pagliuca says the FBI notes say that Carolyn described the woman as having an "unknown" accent. The witness denies that, saying she told the FBI that the woman had an "accent."
Jury is sent out of the courtroom.
Recess
Pagliuca tells the judge he's trying to impeach the witness "by omission," pointing to paragraphs of Carolyn's civil complaint about Sarah Kellen.
He says the govt's trying to play down Kellen's alleged role and play up Maxwell's. The civil complaint does the opposite, Pagliuca says.
Cross-examination continues after the conclusion of afternoon recess.
Pagliuca turns to Carolyn's history of alcohol and drug use, a subject anticipated by the prosecution's direct examination.
Pagliuca refers to Carolyn's previous testimony in litigation:
Q: Did you ever have sexual intercourse with Mr. Epstein?
A: No.
She interjects about the exchange:
"I replied 'No' because I was not a willing participant. He had sex with me and I stopped it."
Pagliuca asks Carolyn whether it's true she never mentioned Maxwell in therapy. Correct, she replies.
[Extra Details c/o Adam Klasfeld]
Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyer said prosecutors plan to call "Jane's" brother "Brian" to back up her testimony. Defense claims that "Jane" contacted him after leaving the stand.
Menninger said that "Jane" told "Brian" that Maxwell's lawyer was an "expletive that rhymes with 'front'.'" Maxwell's defense wants to exclude "Brian's" testimony.
Judge Nathan expressed concerns about whether any coaching took place and is considering the request to exclude it. The prosecutor says that "Brian" informed the govt about the convo with "Jane," whom 'Brian' insists did not go into details of her testimony.
"Jane" told him "he should know that the defense attorney is an 'expletive,'" "Brian" told the govt.
Judge Nathan: The first task is for the govt to fully inquire about what 'Brian' learned from 'Jane' or anyone else" about the conversation.
To be clear:
At issue here is less the "expletive that rhymes with 'front'" than the conversation that took place. Ghislaine Maxwell's counsel is arguing that it could violate the court's sequestration order shielding witnesses from each other's testimony. The FBI witness who ended yesterday's proceedings has returned to the stand.
"All rise."
Jury Enters
Questioning of the FBI witness has resumed:
She identifies multiple photographs of Maxwell and Epstein. These photos are being identified as being from a CD the FBI agent reviewed from the Maxwell investigation.
Testimony ended yesterday with CDs being found during the 2019 raid on Epstein's NY townhouse, including inside his safe: https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1468231478609944582/photo/1 https://archive.ph/z4wFH
Various photographs are shown to the jury of the two of them embracing and images of Maxwell appearing to massage Epstein's foot. On cross examination, the FBI witness (Kimberly Meder) agrees that thousands of images were recovered — though she says she doesn't know when asked if tens of thousands were.
Q: In one set, there were more than 20,000. Is that right?
(Long pause as the witness reviews records, doesn't see the number, is prompted where to look and eventually replies yes.)
Asked whether she doesn't know whether the photos were altered, the witness replies: "Correct."
This witness's testimony concludes. The next witness, from the FBI's Computer Analysis Response Team (CART), introduces an email from "GMax" complaining about unsatisfactory housekeeping from John, apparently a clear reference to the prior witness Juan Alessi.
Dated May 25, 2001, "GMax" grouses in the missive: "I need to what if any list John is using and he needs to understand he is doing a truly awful job."
Among her complaints, she says the "massage creams etc in JE's bathroom were a mess." Intriguing new file created by "GMax" on Oct. 14, 2002, entered into evidence. It reads:
"Jeffrey and Ghislaine have been together, a couple, for the last 11 years. They are, contrary to what many people think, rarely apart — I almost always see them together."
"Ghislaine is highly intelligent and great company with a ready smile and an infectious laugh who always puts one at ones [sic] ease," the file created by "GMax" continues.
On cross-examination, the defense is establishing that the documents were written on a desktop and could not be geolocated.
Side note: The witness is treating the wrong letter of Ghislaine as silent. He's pronouncing it "Gis-ayne." It's "Ghee-lehn."
Recess
Trial continues and a witness testifying under the first name Carolyn takes the stand. An attorney clarifies she's testifying under her first name only, rather than a pseudonym.
Carolyn describes a relationship with someone named "Shawn," whom she says she was told was 17. She says she learned he was 14 at her birthday party. Through Shawn, Carolyn says, she met Virginia
She says she was introduced to give Epstein a massage and make money.
Q: About how old were you the first time you went to Jeffrey Epstein's house?
A: 14.
Carolyn describes meeting Maxwell for the first time.
"She had an accent and she had shoulder-length black hair."
Carolyn says she called her by her surname: Maxwell.
"Because I didn't exactly pronounce her first name correctly."
Maxwell took off her clothes, and Carolyn left on her bra and underwear, she testifies.
Carolyn: After 45 minutes of massaging his back, Epstein turned over, and Epstein and Virginia started having sex.
She says she and Virginia were both paid. Carolyn got $300.
Carolyn says she went to Epstein's house more than 100 times, two to three times a week, between the ages of 14 and 18. Her voice sounds faint and emotional throughout her testimony.
Explaining why she went, Carolyn says it's because she was young and "$300 was a lot of money." Carolyn said that she usually saw Maxwell when she entered the kitchen. "She would just let me know that Mr. Epstein would be back, that he was on a jog."
Carolyn says that she told Maxwell that her mother was an alcoholic and that she was molested. "I remember telling her that I had been raped and molested by grandfather starting at the age of four."
When invited to go to the island, Carolyn says, she told Maxwell she was "too young" and "there was no way in hell" she'd be allowed to go there.
Q: Did she touch you?
A: Yes.
Q: Where?
A: On my breasts.
Carolyn says she brought three friends to Epstein's house.
Asked what she was doing with the money she made at Jeffrey Epstein's house, Carolyn breaks down into tears when saying: "Buying drugs."
She says she was arrested for her drug use. "I handed the officer the drugs."
Q: Why did you do that?
A: Because I was an idiot. (she laughs)
She agrees she was later arrested for possessing stolen property. Carolyn says she went to therapy following those incidents. She says she later worked for an escort service and became a stripper. She sometimes had sex with men for money, she said.
(This is still the government's direct examination, apparently anticipating what Maxwell's attorneys will ask.)
Cross examination is beginning. The initial questions look into Carolyn's prior statements about Virginia Roberts. Flashback from Maxwell's defense opening:
"Carolyn was introduced to Epstein not by Ghislaine, by a woman named Virginia Roberts."
Recess
1920GMT
Cross-examination by Maxwell's lawyer Jeffrey Pagliuca resumes: He questions Carolyn about FBI notes of her interview in August 2017.
Pagliuca says the FBI notes say that Carolyn described the woman as having an "unknown" accent. The witness denies that, saying she told the FBI that the woman had an "accent."
Jury is sent out of the courtroom.
Recess
Pagliuca tells the judge he's trying to impeach the witness "by omission," pointing to paragraphs of Carolyn's civil complaint about Sarah Kellen.
He says the govt's trying to play down Kellen's alleged role and play up Maxwell's. The civil complaint does the opposite, Pagliuca says.
Cross-examination continues after the conclusion of afternoon recess.
Pagliuca turns to Carolyn's history of alcohol and drug use, a subject anticipated by the prosecution's direct examination.
Pagliuca refers to Carolyn's previous testimony in litigation:
Q: Did you ever have sexual intercourse with Mr. Epstein?
A: No.
She interjects about the exchange:
"I replied 'No' because I was not a willing participant. He had sex with me and I stopped it."
[Extra Details c/o Adam Klasfeld]
Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyer said prosecutors plan to call "Jane's" brother "Brian" to back up her testimony. Defense claims that "Jane" contacted him after leaving the stand.
Menninger said that "Jane" told "Brian" that Maxwell's lawyer was an "expletive that rhymes with 'front'.'" Maxwell's defense wants to exclude "Brian's" testimony.
Judge Nathan expressed concerns about whether any coaching took place and is considering the request to exclude it. The prosecutor says that "Brian" informed the govt about the convo with "Jane," whom 'Brian' insists did not go into details of her testimony.
"Jane" told him "he should know that the defense attorney is an 'expletive,'" "Brian" told the govt.
Judge Nathan: The first task is for the govt to fully inquire about what 'Brian' learned from 'Jane' or anyone else" about the conversation.
To be clear:
At issue here is less the "expletive that rhymes with 'front'" than the conversation that took place. Ghislaine Maxwell's counsel is arguing that it could violate the court's sequestration order shielding witnesses from each other's testimony. The FBI witness who ended yesterday's proceedings has returned to the stand.
"All rise."
Jury Enters
Questioning of the FBI witness has resumed:
She identifies multiple photographs of Maxwell and Epstein. These photos are being identified as being from a CD the FBI agent reviewed from the Maxwell investigation.
Testimony ended yesterday with CDs being found during the 2019 raid on Epstein's NY townhouse, including inside his safe: https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1468231478609944582/photo/1 https://archive.ph/z4wFH
Various photographs are shown to the jury of the two of them embracing and images of Maxwell appearing to massage Epstein's foot. On cross examination, the FBI witness (Kimberly Meder) agrees that thousands of images were recovered — though she says she doesn't know when asked if tens of thousands were.
Q: In one set, there were more than 20,000. Is that right?
(Long pause as the witness reviews records, doesn't see the number, is prompted where to look and eventually replies yes.)
Asked whether she doesn't know whether the photos were altered, the witness replies: "Correct."
This witness's testimony concludes. The next witness, from the FBI's Computer Analysis Response Team (CART), introduces an email from "GMax" complaining about unsatisfactory housekeeping from John, apparently a clear reference to the prior witness Juan Alessi.
Dated May 25, 2001, "GMax" grouses in the missive: "I need to what if any list John is using and he needs to understand he is doing a truly awful job."
Among her complaints, she says the "massage creams etc in JE's bathroom were a mess." Intriguing new file created by "GMax" on Oct. 14, 2002, entered into evidence. It reads:
"Jeffrey and Ghislaine have been together, a couple, for the last 11 years. They are, contrary to what many people think, rarely apart — I almost always see them together."
"Ghislaine is highly intelligent and great company with a ready smile and an infectious laugh who always puts one at ones [sic] ease," the file created by "GMax" continues.
On cross-examination, the defense is establishing that the documents were written on a desktop and could not be geolocated.
Side note: The witness is treating the wrong letter of Ghislaine as silent. He's pronouncing it "Gis-ayne." It's "Ghee-lehn."
Recess
Trial continues and a witness testifying under the first name Carolyn takes the stand. An attorney clarifies she's testifying under her first name only, rather than a pseudonym.
Carolyn describes a relationship with someone named "Shawn," whom she says she was told was 17. She says she learned he was 14 at her birthday party. Through Shawn, Carolyn says, she met Virginia
She says she was introduced to give Epstein a massage and make money.
Q: About how old were you the first time you went to Jeffrey Epstein's house?
A: 14.
Carolyn describes meeting Maxwell for the first time.
"She had an accent and she had shoulder-length black hair."
Carolyn says she called her by her surname: Maxwell.
"Because I didn't exactly pronounce her first name correctly."
Maxwell took off her clothes, and Carolyn left on her bra and underwear, she testifies.
Carolyn: After 45 minutes of massaging his back, Epstein turned over, and Epstein and Virginia started having sex.
She says she and Virginia were both paid. Carolyn got $300.
Carolyn says she went to Epstein's house more than 100 times, two to three times a week, between the ages of 14 and 18. Her voice sounds faint and emotional throughout her testimony.
Explaining why she went, Carolyn says it's because she was young and "$300 was a lot of money." Carolyn said that she usually saw Maxwell when she entered the kitchen. "She would just let me know that Mr. Epstein would be back, that he was on a jog."
Carolyn says that she told Maxwell that her mother was an alcoholic and that she was molested. "I remember telling her that I had been raped and molested by grandfather starting at the age of four."
When invited to go to the island, Carolyn says, she told Maxwell she was "too young" and "there was no way in hell" she'd be allowed to go there.
Q: Did she touch you?
A: Yes.
Q: Where?
A: On my breasts.
Carolyn says she brought three friends to Epstein's house.
Asked what she was doing with the money she made at Jeffrey Epstein's house, Carolyn breaks down into tears when saying: "Buying drugs."
She says she was arrested for her drug use. "I handed the officer the drugs."
Q: Why did you do that?
A: Because I was an idiot. (she laughs)
She agrees she was later arrested for possessing stolen property. Carolyn says she went to therapy following those incidents. She says she later worked for an escort service and became a stripper. She sometimes had sex with men for money, she said.
(This is still the government's direct examination, apparently anticipating what Maxwell's attorneys will ask.)
Cross examination is beginning. The initial questions look into Carolyn's prior statements about Virginia Roberts. Flashback from Maxwell's defense opening:
"Carolyn was introduced to Epstein not by Ghislaine, by a woman named Virginia Roberts."
Recess
1920GMT
Cross-examination by Maxwell's lawyer Jeffrey Pagliuca resumes: He questions Carolyn about FBI notes of her interview in August 2017.
Pagliuca says the FBI notes say that Carolyn described the woman as having an "unknown" accent. The witness denies that, saying she told the FBI that the woman had an "accent."
Jury is sent out of the courtroom.
Recess
Pagliuca tells the judge he's trying to impeach the witness "by omission," pointing to paragraphs of Carolyn's civil complaint about Sarah Kellen.
He says the govt's trying to play down Kellen's alleged role and play up Maxwell's. The civil complaint does the opposite, Pagliuca says.
Cross-examination continues after the conclusion of afternoon recess.
Pagliuca turns to Carolyn's history of alcohol and drug use, a subject anticipated by the prosecution's direct examination.
[Extra Details c/o Adam Klasfeld]
Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyer said prosecutors plan to call "Jane's" brother "Brian" to back up her testimony. Defense claims that "Jane" contacted him after leaving the stand.
Menninger said that "Jane" told "Brian" that Maxwell's lawyer was an "expletive that rhymes with 'front'.'" Maxwell's defense wants to exclude "Brian's" testimony.
Judge Nathan expressed concerns about whether any coaching took place and is considering the request to exclude it. The prosecutor says that "Brian" informed the govt about the convo with "Jane," whom 'Brian' insists did not go into details of her testimony.
"Jane" told him "he should know that the defense attorney is an 'expletive,'" "Brian" told the govt.
Judge Nathan: The first task is for the govt to fully inquire about what 'Brian' learned from 'Jane' or anyone else" about the conversation.
To be clear:
At issue here is less the "expletive that rhymes with 'front'" than the conversation that took place. Ghislaine Maxwell's counsel is arguing that it could violate the court's sequestration order shielding witnesses from each other's testimony. The FBI witness who ended yesterday's proceedings has returned to the stand.
"All rise."
Jury Enters
Questioning of the FBI witness has resumed:
She identifies multiple photographs of Maxwell and Epstein. These photos are being identified as being from a CD the FBI agent reviewed from the Maxwell investigation.
Testimony ended yesterday with CDs being found during the 2019 raid on Epstein's NY townhouse, including inside his safe: https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1468231478609944582/photo/1 https://archive.ph/z4wFH
Various photographs are shown to the jury of the two of them embracing and images of Maxwell appearing to massage Epstein's foot. On cross examination, the FBI witness (Kimberly Meder) agrees that thousands of images were recovered — though she says she doesn't know when asked if tens of thousands were.
Q: In one set, there were more than 20,000. Is that right?
(Long pause as the witness reviews records, doesn't see the number, is prompted where to look and eventually replies yes.)
Asked whether she doesn't know whether the photos were altered, the witness replies: "Correct."
This witness's testimony concludes. The next witness, from the FBI's Computer Analysis Response Team (CART), introduces an email from "GMax" complaining about unsatisfactory housekeeping from John, apparently a clear reference to the prior witness Juan Alessi.
Dated May 25, 2001, "GMax" grouses in the missive: "I need to what if any list John is using and he needs to understand he is doing a truly awful job."
Among her complaints, she says the "massage creams etc in JE's bathroom were a mess." Intriguing new file created by "GMax" on Oct. 14, 2002, entered into evidence. It reads:
"Jeffrey and Ghislaine have been together, a couple, for the last 11 years. They are, contrary to what many people think, rarely apart — I almost always see them together."
"Ghislaine is highly intelligent and great company with a ready smile and an infectious laugh who always puts one at ones [sic] ease," the file created by "GMax" continues.
On cross-examination, the defense is establishing that the documents were written on a desktop and could not be geolocated.
Side note: The witness is treating the wrong letter of Ghislaine as silent. He's pronouncing it "Gis-ayne." It's "Ghee-lehn."
Recess
Trial continues and a witness testifying under the first name Carolyn takes the stand. An attorney clarifies she's testifying under her first name only, rather than a pseudonym.
Carolyn describes a relationship with someone named "Shawn," whom she says she was told was 17. She says she learned he was 14 at her birthday party. Through Shawn, Carolyn says, she met Virginia
She says she was introduced to give Epstein a massage and make money.
Q: About how old were you the first time you went to Jeffrey Epstein's house?
A: 14.
Carolyn describes meeting Maxwell for the first time.
"She had an accent and she had shoulder-length black hair."
Carolyn says she called her by her surname: Maxwell.
"Because I didn't exactly pronounce her first name correctly."
Maxwell took off her clothes, and Carolyn left on her bra and underwear, she testifies.
Carolyn: After 45 minutes of massaging his back, Epstein turned over, and Epstein and Virginia started having sex.
She says she and Virginia were both paid. Carolyn got $300.
Carolyn says she went to Epstein's house more than 100 times, two to three times a week, between the ages of 14 and 18. Her voice sounds faint and emotional throughout her testimony.
Explaining why she went, Carolyn says it's because she was young and "$300 was a lot of money." Carolyn said that she usually saw Maxwell when she entered the kitchen. "She would just let me know that Mr. Epstein would be back, that he was on a jog."
Carolyn says that she told Maxwell that her mother was an alcoholic and that she was molested. "I remember telling her that I had been raped and molested by grandfather starting at the age of four."
When invited to go to the island, Carolyn says, she told Maxwell she was "too young" and "there was no way in hell" she'd be allowed to go there.
Q: Did she touch you?
A: Yes.
Q: Where?
A: On my breasts.
Carolyn says she brought three friends to Epstein's house.
Asked what she was doing with the money she made at Jeffrey Epstein's house, Carolyn breaks down into tears when saying: "Buying drugs."
She says she was arrested for her drug use. "I handed the officer the drugs."
Q: Why did you do that?
A: Because I was an idiot. (she laughs)
She agrees she was later arrested for possessing stolen property. Carolyn says she went to therapy following those incidents. She says she later worked for an escort service and became a stripper. She sometimes had sex with men for money, she said.
(This is still the government's direct examination, apparently anticipating what Maxwell's attorneys will ask.)
Cross examination is beginning. The initial questions look into Carolyn's prior statements about Virginia Roberts. Flashback from Maxwell's defense opening:
"Carolyn was introduced to Epstein not by Ghislaine, by a woman named Virginia Roberts."
Recess
1920GMT
Cross-examination by Maxwell's lawyer Jeffrey Pagliuca resumes: He questions Carolyn about FBI notes of her interview in August 2017.
Pagliuca says the FBI notes say that Carolyn described the woman as having an "unknown" accent. The witness denies that, saying she told the FBI that the woman had an "accent."
Jury is sent out of the courtroom for recess.
Pagliuca tells the judge he's trying to impeach the witness "by omission," pointing to paragraphs of Carolyn's civil complaint about Sarah Kellen.
He says the govt's trying to play down Kellen's alleged role and play up Maxwell's. The civil complaint does the opposite, Pagliuca says.
[Extra Details c/o Adam Klasfeld]
Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyer said prosecutors plan to call "Jane's" brother "Brian" to back up her testimony. Defense claims that "Jane" contacted him after leaving the stand.
Menninger said that "Jane" told "Brian" that Maxwell's lawyer was an "expletive that rhymes with 'front'.'" Maxwell's defense wants to exclude "Brian's" testimony.
Judge Nathan expressed concerns about whether any coaching took place and is considering the request to exclude it. The prosecutor says that "Brian" informed the govt about the convo with "Jane," whom 'Brian' insists did not go into details of her testimony.
"Jane" told him "he should know that the defense attorney is an 'expletive,'" "Brian" told the govt.
Judge Nathan: The first task is for the govt to fully inquire about what 'Brian' learned from 'Jane' or anyone else" about the conversation.
To be clear:
At issue here is less the "expletive that rhymes with 'front'" than the conversation that took place. Ghislaine Maxwell's counsel is arguing that it could violate the court's sequestration order shielding witnesses from each other's testimony. The FBI witness who ended yesterday's proceedings has returned to the stand.
"All rise."
Jury Enters
Questioning of the FBI witness has resumed:
She identifies multiple photographs of Maxwell and Epstein. These photos are being identified as being from a CD the FBI agent reviewed from the Maxwell investigation.
Testimony ended yesterday with CDs being found during the 2019 raid on Epstein's NY townhouse, including inside his safe: https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1468231478609944582/photo/1 https://archive.ph/z4wFH
Various photographs are shown to the jury of the two of them embracing and images of Maxwell appearing to massage Epstein's foot. On cross examination, the FBI witness (Kimberly Meder) agrees that thousands of images were recovered — though she says she doesn't know when asked if tens of thousands were.
Q: In one set, there were more than 20,000. Is that right?
(Long pause as the witness reviews records, doesn't see the number, is prompted where to look and eventually replies yes.)
Asked whether she doesn't know whether the photos were altered, the witness replies: "Correct."
This witness's testimony concludes. The next witness, from the FBI's Computer Analysis Response Team (CART), introduces an email from "GMax" complaining about unsatisfactory housekeeping from John, apparently a clear reference to the prior witness Juan Alessi.
Dated May 25, 2001, "GMax" grouses in the missive: "I need to what if any list John is using and he needs to understand he is doing a truly awful job."
Among her complaints, she says the "massage creams etc in JE's bathroom were a mess." Intriguing new file created by "GMax" on Oct. 14, 2002, entered into evidence. It reads:
"Jeffrey and Ghislaine have been together, a couple, for the last 11 years. They are, contrary to what many people think, rarely apart — I almost always see them together."
"Ghislaine is highly intelligent and great company with a ready smile and an infectious laugh who always puts one at ones [sic] ease," the file created by "GMax" continues.
On cross-examination, the defense is establishing that the documents were written on a desktop and could not be geolocated.
Side note: The witness is treating the wrong letter of Ghislaine as silent. He's pronouncing it "Gis-ayne." It's "Ghee-lehn."
Recess
Trial continues and a witness testifying under the first name Carolyn takes the stand. An attorney clarifies she's testifying under her first name only, rather than a pseudonym.
Carolyn describes a relationship with someone named "Shawn," whom she says she was told was 17. She says she learned he was 14 at her birthday party. Through Shawn, Carolyn says, she met Virginia
She says she was introduced to give Epstein a massage and make money.
Q: About how old were you the first time you went to Jeffrey Epstein's house?
A: 14.
Carolyn describes meeting Maxwell for the first time.
"She had an accent and she had shoulder-length black hair."
Carolyn says she called her by her surname: Maxwell.
"Because I didn't exactly pronounce her first name correctly."
Maxwell took off her clothes, and Carolyn left on her bra and underwear, she testifies.
Carolyn: After 45 minutes of massaging his back, Epstein turned over, and Epstein and Virginia started having sex.
She says she and Virginia were both paid. Carolyn got $300.
Carolyn says she went to Epstein's house more than 100 times, two to three times a week, between the ages of 14 and 18. Her voice sounds faint and emotional throughout her testimony.
Explaining why she went, Carolyn says it's because she was young and "$300 was a lot of money." Carolyn said that she usually saw Maxwell when she entered the kitchen. "She would just let me know that Mr. Epstein would be back, that he was on a jog."
Carolyn says that she told Maxwell that her mother was an alcoholic and that she was molested. "I remember telling her that I had been raped and molested by grandfather starting at the age of four."
When invited to go to the island, Carolyn says, she told Maxwell she was "too young" and "there was no way in hell" she'd be allowed to go there.
Q: Did she touch you?
A: Yes.
Q: Where?
A: On my breasts.
Carolyn says she brought three friends to Epstein's house.
Asked what she was doing with the money she made at Jeffrey Epstein's house, Carolyn breaks down into tears when saying: "Buying drugs."
She says she was arrested for her drug use. "I handed the officer the drugs."
Q: Why did you do that?
A: Because I was an idiot. (she laughs)
She agrees she was later arrested for possessing stolen property. Carolyn says she went to therapy following those incidents. She says she later worked for an escort service and became a stripper. She sometimes had sex with men for money, she said.
(This is still the government's direct examination, apparently anticipating what Maxwell's attorneys will ask.)
Cross examination is beginning. The initial questions look into Carolyn's prior statements about Virginia Roberts. Flashback from Maxwell's defense opening:
"Carolyn was introduced to Epstein not by Ghislaine, by a woman named Virginia Roberts."
Recess
1920GMT
Cross-examination by Maxwell's lawyer Jeffrey Pagliuca resumes: He questions Carolyn about FBI notes of her interview in August 2017.
Pagliuca says the FBI notes say that Carolyn described the woman as having an "unknown" accent. The witness denies that, saying she told the FBI that the woman had an "accent."
Jury is sent out of the courtroom for recess.
Pagliuca tells the judge he's trying to impeach the witness "by omission," pointing to paragraphs of Carolyn's civil complaint about Sarah Kellen.
He says the govt's trying to play down Kellen's alleged role and play up Maxwell's.
[Extra Details c/o Adam Klasfeld]
Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyer said prosecutors plan to call "Jane's" brother "Brian" to back up her testimony. Defense claims that "Jane" contacted him after leaving the stand.
Menninger said that "Jane" told "Brian" that Maxwell's lawyer was an "expletive that rhymes with 'front'.'" Maxwell's defense wants to exclude "Brian's" testimony.
Judge Nathan expressed concerns about whether any coaching took place and is considering the request to exclude it. The prosecutor says that "Brian" informed the govt about the convo with "Jane," whom 'Brian' insists did not go into details of her testimony.
"Jane" told him "he should know that the defense attorney is an 'expletive,'" "Brian" told the govt.
Judge Nathan: The first task is for the govt to fully inquire about what 'Brian' learned from 'Jane' or anyone else" about the conversation.
To be clear:
At issue here is less the "expletive that rhymes with 'front'" than the conversation that took place. Ghislaine Maxwell's counsel is arguing that it could violate the court's sequestration order shielding witnesses from each other's testimony. The FBI witness who ended yesterday's proceedings has returned to the stand.
"All rise."
Jury Enters
Questioning of the FBI witness has resumed:
She identifies multiple photographs of Maxwell and Epstein. These photos are being identified as being from a CD the FBI agent reviewed from the Maxwell investigation.
Testimony ended yesterday with CDs being found during the 2019 raid on Epstein's NY townhouse, including inside his safe: https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1468231478609944582/photo/1 https://archive.ph/z4wFH
Various photographs are shown to the jury of the two of them embracing and images of Maxwell appearing to massage Epstein's foot. On cross examination, the FBI witness (Kimberly Meder) agrees that thousands of images were recovered — though she says she doesn't know when asked if tens of thousands were.
Q: In one set, there were more than 20,000. Is that right?
(Long pause as the witness reviews records, doesn't see the number, is prompted where to look and eventually replies yes.)
Asked whether she doesn't know whether the photos were altered, the witness replies: "Correct."
This witness's testimony concludes. The next witness, from the FBI's Computer Analysis Response Team (CART), introduces an email from "GMax" complaining about unsatisfactory housekeeping from John, apparently a clear reference to the prior witness Juan Alessi.
Dated May 25, 2001, "GMax" grouses in the missive: "I need to what if any list John is using and he needs to understand he is doing a truly awful job."
Among her complaints, she says the "massage creams etc in JE's bathroom were a mess." Intriguing new file created by "GMax" on Oct. 14, 2002, entered into evidence. It reads:
"Jeffrey and Ghislaine have been together, a couple, for the last 11 years. They are, contrary to what many people think, rarely apart — I almost always see them together."
"Ghislaine is highly intelligent and great company with a ready smile and an infectious laugh who always puts one at ones [sic] ease," the file created by "GMax" continues.
On cross-examination, the defense is establishing that the documents were written on a desktop and could not be geolocated.
Side note: The witness is treating the wrong letter of Ghislaine as silent. He's pronouncing it "Gis-ayne." It's "Ghee-lehn."
Recess
Trial continues and a witness testifying under the first name Carolyn takes the stand. An attorney clarifies she's testifying under her first name only, rather than a pseudonym.
Carolyn describes a relationship with someone named "Shawn," whom she says she was told was 17. She says she learned he was 14 at her birthday party. Through Shawn, Carolyn says, she met Virginia
She says she was introduced to give Epstein a massage and make money.
Q: About how old were you the first time you went to Jeffrey Epstein's house?
A: 14.
Carolyn describes meeting Maxwell for the first time.
"She had an accent and she had shoulder-length black hair."
Carolyn says she called her by her surname: Maxwell.
"Because I didn't exactly pronounce her first name correctly."
Maxwell took off her clothes, and Carolyn left on her bra and underwear, she testifies.
Carolyn: After 45 minutes of massaging his back, Epstein turned over, and Epstein and Virginia started having sex.
She says she and Virginia were both paid. Carolyn got $300.
Carolyn says she went to Epstein's house more than 100 times, two to three times a week, between the ages of 14 and 18. Her voice sounds faint and emotional throughout her testimony.
Explaining why she went, Carolyn says it's because she was young and "$300 was a lot of money." Carolyn said that she usually saw Maxwell when she entered the kitchen. "She would just let me know that Mr. Epstein would be back, that he was on a jog."
Carolyn says that she told Maxwell that her mother was an alcoholic and that she was molested. "I remember telling her that I had been raped and molested by grandfather starting at the age of four."
When invited to go to the island, Carolyn says, she told Maxwell she was "too young" and "there was no way in hell" she'd be allowed to go there.
Q: Did she touch you?
A: Yes.
Q: Where?
A: On my breasts.
Carolyn says she brought three friends to Epstein's house.
Asked what she was doing with the money she made at Jeffrey Epstein's house, Carolyn breaks down into tears when saying: "Buying drugs."
She says she was arrested for her drug use. "I handed the officer the drugs."
Q: Why did you do that?
A: Because I was an idiot. (she laughs)
She agrees she was later arrested for possessing stolen property. Carolyn says she went to therapy following those incidents. She says she later worked for an escort service and became a stripper. She sometimes had sex with men for money, she said.
(This is still the government's direct examination, apparently anticipating what Maxwell's attorneys will ask.)
Cross examination is beginning. The initial questions look into Carolyn's prior statements about Virginia Roberts. Flashback from Maxwell's defense opening:
"Carolyn was introduced to Epstein not by Ghislaine, by a woman named Virginia Roberts."
Recess
1920GMT
Cross-examination by Maxwell's lawyer Jeffrey Pagliuca resumes: He questions Carolyn about FBI notes of her interview in August 2017.
Pagliuca says the FBI notes say that Carolyn described the woman as having an "unknown" accent. The witness denies that, saying she told the FBI that the woman had an "accent."
[Extra Details c/o Adam Klasfeld]
Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyer said prosecutors plan to call "Jane's" brother "Brian" to back up her testimony. Defense claims that "Jane" contacted him after leaving the stand.
Menninger said that "Jane" told "Brian" that Maxwell's lawyer was an "expletive that rhymes with 'front'.'" Maxwell's defense wants to exclude "Brian's" testimony.
Judge Nathan expressed concerns about whether any coaching took place and is considering the request to exclude it. The prosecutor says that "Brian" informed the govt about the convo with "Jane," whom 'Brian' insists did not go into details of her testimony.
"Jane" told him "he should know that the defense attorney is an 'expletive,'" "Brian" told the govt.
Judge Nathan: The first task is for the govt to fully inquire about what 'Brian' learned from 'Jane' or anyone else" about the conversation.
To be clear:
At issue here is less the "expletive that rhymes with 'front'" than the conversation that took place. Ghislaine Maxwell's counsel is arguing that it could violate the court's sequestration order shielding witnesses from each other's testimony. The FBI witness who ended yesterday's proceedings has returned to the stand.
"All rise."
Jury Enters
Questioning of the FBI witness has resumed:
She identifies multiple photographs of Maxwell and Epstein. These photos are being identified as being from a CD the FBI agent reviewed from the Maxwell investigation.
Testimony ended yesterday with CDs being found during the 2019 raid on Epstein's NY townhouse, including inside his safe: https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1468231478609944582/photo/1 https://archive.ph/z4wFH
Various photographs are shown to the jury of the two of them embracing and images of Maxwell appearing to massage Epstein's foot. On cross examination, the FBI witness (Kimberly Meder) agrees that thousands of images were recovered — though she says she doesn't know when asked if tens of thousands were.
Q: In one set, there were more than 20,000. Is that right?
(Long pause as the witness reviews records, doesn't see the number, is prompted where to look and eventually replies yes.)
Asked whether she doesn't know whether the photos were altered, the witness replies: "Correct."
This witness's testimony concludes. The next witness, from the FBI's Computer Analysis Response Team (CART), introduces an email from "GMax" complaining about unsatisfactory housekeeping from John, apparently a clear reference to the prior witness Juan Alessi.
Dated May 25, 2001, "GMax" grouses in the missive: "I need to what if any list John is using and he needs to understand he is doing a truly awful job."
Among her complaints, she says the "massage creams etc in JE's bathroom were a mess." Intriguing new file created by "GMax" on Oct. 14, 2002, entered into evidence. It reads:
"Jeffrey and Ghislaine have been together, a couple, for the last 11 years. They are, contrary to what many people think, rarely apart — I almost always see them together."
"Ghislaine is highly intelligent and great company with a ready smile and an infectious laugh who always puts one at ones [sic] ease," the file created by "GMax" continues.
On cross-examination, the defense is establishing that the documents were written on a desktop and could not be geolocated.
Side note: The witness is treating the wrong letter of Ghislaine as silent. He's pronouncing it "Gis-ayne." It's "Ghee-lehn."
Recess
Trial continues and a witness testifying under the first name Carolyn takes the stand. An attorney clarifies she's testifying under her first name only, rather than a pseudonym.
Carolyn describes a relationship with someone named "Shawn," whom she says she was told was 17. She says she learned he was 14 at her birthday party. Through Shawn, Carolyn says, she met Virginia
She says she was introduced to give Epstein a massage and make money.
Q: About how old were you the first time you went to Jeffrey Epstein's house?
A: 14.
Carolyn describes meeting Maxwell for the first time.
"She had an accent and she had shoulder-length black hair."
Carolyn says she called her by her surname: Maxwell.
"Because I didn't exactly pronounce her first name correctly."
Maxwell took off her clothes, and Carolyn left on her bra and underwear, she testifies.
Carolyn: After 45 minutes of massaging his back, Epstein turned over, and Epstein and Virginia started having sex.
She says she and Virginia were both paid. Carolyn got $300.
Carolyn says she went to Epstein's house more than 100 times, two to three times a week, between the ages of 14 and 18. Her voice sounds faint and emotional throughout her testimony.
Explaining why she went, Carolyn says it's because she was young and "$300 was a lot of money." Carolyn said that she usually saw Maxwell when she entered the kitchen. "She would just let me know that Mr. Epstein would be back, that he was on a jog."
Carolyn says that she told Maxwell that her mother was an alcoholic and that she was molested. "I remember telling her that I had been raped and molested by grandfather starting at the age of four."
When invited to go to the island, Carolyn says, she told Maxwell she was "too young" and "there was no way in hell" she'd be allowed to go there.
Q: Did she touch you?
A: Yes.
Q: Where?
A: On my breasts.
Carolyn says she brought three friends to Epstein's house.
Asked what she was doing with the money she made at Jeffrey Epstein's house, Carolyn breaks down into tears when saying: "Buying drugs."
She says she was arrested for her drug use. "I handed the officer the drugs."
Q: Why did you do that?
A: Because I was an idiot. (she laughs)
She agrees she was later arrested for possessing stolen property. Carolyn says she went to therapy following those incidents. She says she later worked for an escort service and became a stripper. She sometimes had sex with men for money, she said.
(This is still the government's direct examination, apparently anticipating what Maxwell's attorneys will ask.)
Cross examination is beginning. The initial questions look into Carolyn's prior statements about Virginia Roberts. Flashback from Maxwell's defense opening:
"Carolyn was introduced to Epstein not by Ghislaine, by a woman named Virginia Roberts."
Recess
1920GMT
Cross-examination by Maxwell's lawyer Jeffrey Pagliuca resumes: He questions Carolyn about FBI notes of her interview in August 2017.
[Extra Details c/o Adam Klasfeld]
Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyer said prosecutors plan to call "Jane's" brother "Brian" to back up her testimony. Defense claims that "Jane" contacted him after leaving the stand.
Menninger said that "Jane" told "Brian" that Maxwell's lawyer was an "expletive that rhymes with 'front'.'" Maxwell's defense wants to exclude "Brian's" testimony.
Judge Nathan expressed concerns about whether any coaching took place and is considering the request to exclude it. The prosecutor says that "Brian" informed the govt about the convo with "Jane," whom 'Brian' insists did not go into details of her testimony.
"Jane" told him "he should know that the defense attorney is an 'expletive,'" "Brian" told the govt.
Judge Nathan: The first task is for the govt to fully inquire about what 'Brian' learned from 'Jane' or anyone else" about the conversation.
To be clear:
At issue here is less the "expletive that rhymes with 'front'" than the conversation that took place. Ghislaine Maxwell's counsel is arguing that it could violate the court's sequestration order shielding witnesses from each other's testimony. The FBI witness who ended yesterday's proceedings has returned to the stand.
"All rise."
Jury Enters
Questioning of the FBI witness has resumed:
She identifies multiple photographs of Maxwell and Epstein. These photos are being identified as being from a CD the FBI agent reviewed from the Maxwell investigation.
Testimony ended yesterday with CDs being found during the 2019 raid on Epstein's NY townhouse, including inside his safe: https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1468231478609944582/photo/1 https://archive.ph/z4wFH
Various photographs are shown to the jury of the two of them embracing and images of Maxwell appearing to massage Epstein's foot. On cross examination, the FBI witness (Kimberly Meder) agrees that thousands of images were recovered — though she says she doesn't know when asked if tens of thousands were.
Q: In one set, there were more than 20,000. Is that right?
(Long pause as the witness reviews records, doesn't see the number, is prompted where to look and eventually replies yes.)
Asked whether she doesn't know whether the photos were altered, the witness replies: "Correct."
This witness's testimony concludes. The next witness, from the FBI's Computer Analysis Response Team (CART), introduces an email from "GMax" complaining about unsatisfactory housekeeping from John, apparently a clear reference to the prior witness Juan Alessi.
Dated May 25, 2001, "GMax" grouses in the missive: "I need to what if any list John is using and he needs to understand he is doing a truly awful job."
Among her complaints, she says the "massage creams etc in JE's bathroom were a mess." Intriguing new file created by "GMax" on Oct. 14, 2002, entered into evidence. It reads:
"Jeffrey and Ghislaine have been together, a couple, for the last 11 years. They are, contrary to what many people think, rarely apart — I almost always see them together."
"Ghislaine is highly intelligent and great company with a ready smile and an infectious laugh who always puts one at ones [sic] ease," the file created by "GMax" continues.
On cross-examination, the defense is establishing that the documents were written on a desktop and could not be geolocated.
Side note: The witness is treating the wrong letter of Ghislaine as silent. He's pronouncing it "Gis-ayne." It's "Ghee-lehn."
Recess
Trial continues and a witness testifying under the first name Carolyn takes the stand. An attorney clarifies she's testifying under her first name only, rather than a pseudonym.
Carolyn describes a relationship with someone named "Shawn," whom she says she was told was 17. She says she learned he was 14 at her birthday party. Through Shawn, Carolyn says, she met Virginia
She says she was introduced to give Epstein a massage and make money.
Q: About how old were you the first time you went to Jeffrey Epstein's house?
A: 14.
Carolyn describes meeting Maxwell for the first time.
"She had an accent and she had shoulder-length black hair."
Carolyn says she called her by her surname: Maxwell.
"Because I didn't exactly pronounce her first name correctly."
Maxwell took off her clothes, and Carolyn left on her bra and underwear, she testifies.
Carolyn: After 45 minutes of massaging his back, Epstein turned over, and Epstein and Virginia started having sex.
She says she and Virginia were both paid. Carolyn got $300.
Carolyn says she went to Epstein's house more than 100 times, two to three times a week, between the ages of 14 and 18. Her voice sounds faint and emotional throughout her testimony.
Explaining why she went, Carolyn says it's because she was young and "$300 was a lot of money." Carolyn said that she usually saw Maxwell when she entered the kitchen. "She would just let me know that Mr. Epstein would be back, that he was on a jog."
Carolyn says that she told Maxwell that her mother was an alcoholic and that she was molested. "I remember telling her that I had been raped and molested by grandfather starting at the age of four."
When invited to go to the island, Carolyn says, she told Maxwell she was "too young" and "there was no way in hell" she'd be allowed to go there.
Q: Did she touch you?
A: Yes.
Q: Where?
A: On my breasts.
Carolyn says she brought three friends to Epstein's house.
Asked what she was doing with the money she made at Jeffrey Epstein's house, Carolyn breaks down into tears when saying: "Buying drugs."
She says she was arrested for her drug use. "I handed the officer the drugs."
Q: Why did you do that?
A: Because I was an idiot. (she laughs)
She agrees she was later arrested for possessing stolen property. Carolyn says she went to therapy following those incidents. She says she later worked for an escort service and became a stripper. She sometimes had sex with men for money, she said.
(This is still the government's direct examination, apparently anticipating what Maxwell's attorneys will ask.)
Cross examination is beginning. The initial questions look into Carolyn's prior statements about Virginia Roberts. Flashback from Maxwell's defense opening:
"Carolyn was introduced to Epstein not by Ghislaine, by a woman named Virginia Roberts."
Recess
[Extra Details c/o Adam Klasfeld]
Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyer said prosecutors plan to call "Jane's" brother "Brian" to back up her testimony. Defense claims that "Jane" contacted him after leaving the stand.
Menninger said that "Jane" told "Brian" that Maxwell's lawyer was an "expletive that rhymes with 'front'.'" Maxwell's defense wants to exclude "Brian's" testimony.
Judge Nathan expressed concerns about whether any coaching took place and is considering the request to exclude it. The prosecutor says that "Brian" informed the govt about the convo with "Jane," whom 'Brian' insists did not go into details of her testimony.
"Jane" told him "he should know that the defense attorney is an 'expletive,'" "Brian" told the govt.
Judge Nathan: The first task is for the govt to fully inquire about what 'Brian' learned from 'Jane' or anyone else" about the conversation.
To be clear:
At issue here is less the "expletive that rhymes with 'front'" than the conversation that took place. Ghislaine Maxwell's counsel is arguing that it could violate the court's sequestration order shielding witnesses from each other's testimony. The FBI witness who ended yesterday's proceedings has returned to the stand.
"All rise."
Jury Enters
Questioning of the FBI witness has resumed:
She identifies multiple photographs of Maxwell and Epstein. These photos are being identified as being from a CD the FBI agent reviewed from the Maxwell investigation.
Testimony ended yesterday with CDs being found during the 2019 raid on Epstein's NY townhouse, including inside his safe: https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1468231478609944582/photo/1 https://archive.ph/z4wFH
Various photographs are shown to the jury of the two of them embracing and images of Maxwell appearing to massage Epstein's foot. On cross examination, the FBI witness (Kimberly Meder) agrees that thousands of images were recovered — though she says she doesn't know when asked if tens of thousands were.
Q: In one set, there were more than 20,000. Is that right?
(Long pause as the witness reviews records, doesn't see the number, is prompted where to look and eventually replies yes.)
Asked whether she doesn't know whether the photos were altered, the witness replies: "Correct."
This witness's testimony concludes. The next witness, from the FBI's Computer Analysis Response Team (CART), introduces an email from "GMax" complaining about unsatisfactory housekeeping from John, apparently a clear reference to the prior witness Juan Alessi.
Dated May 25, 2001, "GMax" grouses in the missive: "I need to what if any list John is using and he needs to understand he is doing a truly awful job."
Among her complaints, she says the "massage creams etc in JE's bathroom were a mess." Intriguing new file created by "GMax" on Oct. 14, 2002, entered into evidence. It reads:
"Jeffrey and Ghislaine have been together, a couple, for the last 11 years. They are, contrary to what many people think, rarely apart — I almost always see them together."
"Ghislaine is highly intelligent and great company with a ready smile and an infectious laugh who always puts one at ones [sic] ease," the file created by "GMax" continues.
On cross-examination, the defense is establishing that the documents were written on a desktop and could not be geolocated.
Side note: The witness is treating the wrong letter of Ghislaine as silent. He's pronouncing it "Gis-ayne." It's "Ghee-lehn."
Recess
Trial continues and a witness testifying under the first name Carolyn takes the stand. An attorney clarifies she's testifying under her first name only, rather than a pseudonym.
Carolyn describes a relationship with someone named "Sean," whom she says she was told was 17. She says she learned he was 14 at her birthday party. Through Sean, Carolyn says, she met Virginia
She says she was introduced to give Epstein a massage and make money.
Q: About how old were you the first time you went to Jeffrey Epstein's house?
A: 14.
Carolyn describes meeting Maxwell for the first time.
"She had an accent and she had shoulder-length black hair."
Carolyn says she called her by her surname: Maxwell.
"Because I didn't exactly pronounce her first name correctly."
Maxwell took off her clothes, and Carolyn left on her bra and underwear, she testifies.
Carolyn: After 45 minutes of massaging his back, Epstein turned over, and Epstein and Virginia started having sex.
She says she and Virginia were both paid. Carolyn got $300.
Carolyn says she went to Epstein's house more than 100 times, two to three times a week, between the ages of 14 and 18. Her voice sounds faint and emotional throughout her testimony.
Explaining why she went, Carolyn says it's because she was young and "$300 was a lot of money." Carolyn said that she usually saw Maxwell when she entered the kitchen. "She would just let me know that Mr. Epstein would be back, that he was on a jog."
Carolyn says that she told Maxwell that her mother was an alcoholic and that she was molested. "I remember telling her that I had been raped and molested by grandfather starting at the age of four."
When invited to go to the island, Carolyn says, she told Maxwell she was "too young" and "there was no way in hell" she'd be allowed to go there.
Q: Did she touch you?
A: Yes.
Q: Where?
A: On my breasts.
Carolyn says she brought three friends to Epstein's house.
Asked what she was doing with the money she made at Jeffrey Epstein's house, Carolyn breaks down into tears when saying: "Buying drugs."
She says she was arrested for her drug use. "I handed the officer the drugs."
Q: Why did you do that?
A: Because I was an idiot. (she laughs)
She agrees she was later arrested for possessing stolen property. Carolyn says she went to therapy following those incidents. She says she later worked for an escort service and became a stripper. She sometimes had sex with men for money, she said.
(This is still the government's direct examination, apparently anticipating what Maxwell's attorneys will ask.)
Cross examination is beginning. The initial questions look into Carolyn's prior statements about Virginia Roberts. Flashback from Maxwell's defense opening:
"Carolyn was introduced to Epstein not by Ghislaine, by a woman named Virginia Roberts."
[Extra Details c/o Adam Klasfeld]
Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyer said prosecutors plan to call "Jane's" brother "Brian" to back up her testimony. Defense claims that "Jane" contacted him after leaving the stand.
Menninger said that "Jane" told "Brian" that Maxwell's lawyer was an "expletive that rhymes with 'front'.'" Maxwell's defense wants to exclude "Brian's" testimony.
Judge Nathan expressed concerns about whether any coaching took place and is considering the request to exclude it. The prosecutor says that "Brian" informed the govt about the convo with "Jane," whom 'Brian' insists did not go into details of her testimony.
"Jane" told him "he should know that the defense attorney is an 'expletive,'" "Brian" told the govt.
Judge Nathan: The first task is for the govt to fully inquire about what 'Brian' learned from 'Jane' or anyone else" about the conversation.
To be clear:
At issue here is less the "expletive that rhymes with 'front'" than the conversation that took place. Ghislaine Maxwell's counsel is arguing that it could violate the court's sequestration order shielding witnesses from each other's testimony. The FBI witness who ended yesterday's proceedings has returned to the stand.
"All rise."
Jury Enters
Questioning of the FBI witness has resumed:
She identifies multiple photographs of Maxwell and Epstein. These photos are being identified as being from a CD the FBI agent reviewed from the Maxwell investigation.
Testimony ended yesterday with CDs being found during the 2019 raid on Epstein's NY townhouse, including inside his safe: https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1468231478609944582/photo/1 https://archive.ph/z4wFH
Various photographs are shown to the jury of the two of them embracing and images of Maxwell appearing to massage Epstein's foot. On cross examination, the FBI witness (Kimberly Meder) agrees that thousands of images were recovered — though she says she doesn't know when asked if tens of thousands were.
Q: In one set, there were more than 20,000. Is that right?
(Long pause as the witness reviews records, doesn't see the number, is prompted where to look and eventually replies yes.)
Asked whether she doesn't know whether the photos were altered, the witness replies: "Correct."
This witness's testimony concludes. The next witness, from the FBI's Computer Analysis Response Team (CART), introduces an email from "GMax" complaining about unsatisfactory housekeeping from John, apparently a clear reference to the prior witness Juan Alessi.
Dated May 25, 2001, "GMax" grouses in the missive: "I need to what if any list John is using and he needs to understand he is doing a truly awful job."
Among her complaints, she says the "massage creams etc in JE's bathroom were a mess." Intriguing new file created by "GMax" on Oct. 14, 2002, entered into evidence. It reads:
"Jeffrey and Ghislaine have been together, a couple, for the last 11 years. They are, contrary to what many people think, rarely apart — I almost always see them together."
"Ghislaine is highly intelligent and great company with a ready smile and an infectious laugh who always puts one at ones [sic] ease," the file created by "GMax" continues.
On cross-examination, the defense is establishing that the documents were written on a desktop and could not be geolocated.
Side note: The witness is treating the wrong letter of Ghislaine as silent. He's pronouncing it "Gis-ayne." It's "Ghee-lehn."
Recess
Trial continues and a witness testifying under the first name Carolyn takes the stand. An attorney clarifies she's testifying under her first name only, rather than a pseudonym.
Carolyn describes a relationship with someone named "Sean," whom she says she was told was 17. She says she learned he was 14 at her birthday party. Through Sean, Carolyn says, she met Virginia
She says she was introduced to give Epstein a massage and make money.
Q: About how old were you the first time you went to Jeffrey Epstein's house?
A: 14.
Carolyn describes meeting Maxwell for the first time.
"She had an accent and she had shoulder-length black hair."
Carolyn says she called her by her surname: Maxwell.
"Because I didn't exactly pronounce her first name correctly."
Maxwell took off her clothes, and Carolyn left on her bra and underwear, she testifies.
Carolyn: After 45 minutes of massaging his back, Epstein turned over, and Epstein and Virginia started having sex.
She says she and Virginia were both paid. Carolyn got $300.
Carolyn says she went to Epstein's house more than 100 times, two to three times a week, between the ages of 14 and 18. Her voice sounds faint and emotional throughout her testimony.
Explaining why she went, Carolyn says it's because she was young and "$300 was a lot of money." Carolyn said that she usually saw Maxwell when she entered the kitchen. "She would just let me know that Mr. Epstein would be back, that he was on a jog."
Carolyn says that she told Maxwell that her mother was an alcoholic and that she was molested. "I remember telling her that I had been raped and molested by grandfather starting at the age of four."
When invited to go to the island, Carolyn says, she told Maxwell she was "too young" and "there was no way in hell" she'd be allowed to go there.
Q: Did she touch you?
A: Yes.
Q: Where?
A: On my breasts.
Carolyn says she brought three friends to Epstein's house.
Asked what she was doing with the money she made at Jeffrey Epstein's house, Carolyn breaks down into tears when saying: "Buying drugs."
She says she was arrested for her drug use. "I handed the officer the drugs."
Q: Why did you do that?
A: Because I was an idiot. (she laughs)
She agrees she was later arrested for possessing stolen property. Carolyn says she went to therapy following those incidents. She says she later worked for an escort service and became a stripper. She sometimes had sex with men for money, she said.
(This is still the government's direct examination, apparently anticipating what Maxwell's attorneys will ask.)
[Extra Details c/o Adam Klasfeld]
Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyer said prosecutors plan to call "Jane's" brother "Brian" to back up her testimony. Defense claims that "Jane" contacted him after leaving the stand.
Menninger said that "Jane" told "Brian" that Maxwell's lawyer was an "expletive that rhymes with 'front'.'" Maxwell's defense wants to exclude "Brian's" testimony.
Judge Nathan expressed concerns about whether any coaching took place and is considering the request to exclude it. The prosecutor says that "Brian" informed the govt about the convo with "Jane," whom 'Brian' insists did not go into details of her testimony.
"Jane" told him "he should know that the defense attorney is an 'expletive,'" "Brian" told the govt.
Judge Nathan: The first task is for the govt to fully inquire about what 'Brian' learned from 'Jane' or anyone else" about the conversation.
To be clear:
At issue here is less the "expletive that rhymes with 'front'" than the conversation that took place. Ghislaine Maxwell's counsel is arguing that it could violate the court's sequestration order shielding witnesses from each other's testimony. The FBI witness who ended yesterday's proceedings has returned to the stand.
"All rise."
Jury Enters
Questioning of the FBI witness has resumed:
She identifies multiple photographs of Maxwell and Epstein. These photos are being identified as being from a CD the FBI agent reviewed from the Maxwell investigation.
Testimony ended yesterday with CDs being found during the 2019 raid on Epstein's NY townhouse, including inside his safe: https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1468231478609944582/photo/1 https://archive.ph/z4wFH
Various photographs are shown to the jury of the two of them embracing and images of Maxwell appearing to massage Epstein's foot. On cross examination, the FBI witness (Kimberly Meder) agrees that thousands of images were recovered — though she says she doesn't know when asked if tens of thousands were.
Q: In one set, there were more than 20,000. Is that right?
(Long pause as the witness reviews records, doesn't see the number, is prompted where to look and eventually replies yes.)
Asked whether she doesn't know whether the photos were altered, the witness replies: "Correct."
This witness's testimony concludes. The next witness, from the FBI's Computer Analysis Response Team (CART), introduces an email from "GMax" complaining about unsatisfactory housekeeping from John, apparently a clear reference to the prior witness Juan Alessi.
Dated May 25, 2001, "GMax" grouses in the missive: "I need to what if any list John is using and he needs to understand he is doing a truly awful job."
Among her complaints, she says the "massage creams etc in JE's bathroom were a mess." Intriguing new file created by "GMax" on Oct. 14, 2002, entered into evidence. It reads:
"Jeffrey and Ghislaine have been together, a couple, for the last 11 years. They are, contrary to what many people think, rarely apart — I almost always see them together."
"Ghislaine is highly intelligent and great company with a ready smile and an infectious laugh who always puts one at ones [sic] ease," the file created by "GMax" continues.
On cross-examination, the defense is establishing that the documents were written on a desktop and could not be geolocated.
Side note: The witness is treating the wrong letter of Ghislaine as silent. He's pronouncing it "Gis-ayne." It's "Ghee-lehn."
Recess
Trial continues and a witness testifying under the first name Carolyn takes the stand. An attorney clarifies she's testifying under her first name only, rather than a pseudonym.
Carolyn describes a relationship with someone named "Sean," whom she says she was told was 17. She says she learned he was 14 at her birthday party. Through Sean, Carolyn says, she met Virginia
She says she was introduced to give Epstein a massage and make money.
Q: About how old were you the first time you went to Jeffrey Epstein's house?
A: 14.
Carolyn describes meeting Maxwell for the first time.
"She had an accent and she had shoulder-length black hair."
Carolyn says she called her by her surname: Maxwell.
"Because I didn't exactly pronounce her first name correctly."
Maxwell took off her clothes, and Carolyn left on her bra and underwear, she testifies.
Carolyn: After 45 minutes of massaging his back, Epstein turned over, and Epstein and Virginia started having sex.
She says she and Virginia were both paid. Carolyn got $300.
Carolyn says she went to Epstein's house more than 100 times, two to three times a week, between the ages of 14 and 18. Her voice sounds faint and emotional throughout her testimony.
Explaining why she went, Carolyn says it's because she was young and "$300 was a lot of money." Carolyn said that she usually saw Maxwell when she entered the kitchen. "She would just let me know that Mr. Epstein would be back, that he was on a jog."
Carolyn says that she told Maxwell that her mother was an alcoholic and that she was molested. "I remember telling her that I had been raped and molested by grandfather starting at the age of four."
When invited to go to the island, Carolyn says, she told Maxwell she was "too young" and "there was no way in hell" she'd be allowed to go there.
Q: Did she touch you?
A: Yes.
Q: Where?
A: On my breasts.
Carolyn says she brought three friends to Epstein's house.
Asked what she was doing with the money she made at Jeffrey Epstein's house, Carolyn breaks down into tears when saying: "Buying drugs."
She says she was arrested for her drug use. "I handed the officer the drugs."
Q: Why did you do that?
A: Because I was an idiot. (she laughs)
She agrees she was later arrested for possessing stolen property. Carolyn says she went to therapy following those incidents.
[Extra Details c/o Adam Klasfeld]
Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyer said prosecutors plan to call "Jane's" brother "Brian" to back up her testimony. Defense claims that "Jane" contacted him after leaving the stand.
Menninger said that "Jane" told "Brian" that Maxwell's lawyer was an "expletive that rhymes with 'front'.'" Maxwell's defense wants to exclude "Brian's" testimony.
Judge Nathan expressed concerns about whether any coaching took place and is considering the request to exclude it. The prosecutor says that "Brian" informed the govt about the convo with "Jane," whom 'Brian' insists did not go into details of her testimony.
"Jane" told him "he should know that the defense attorney is an 'expletive,'" "Brian" told the govt.
Judge Nathan: The first task is for the govt to fully inquire about what 'Brian' learned from 'Jane' or anyone else" about the conversation.
To be clear:
At issue here is less the "expletive that rhymes with 'front'" than the conversation that took place. Ghislaine Maxwell's counsel is arguing that it could violate the court's sequestration order shielding witnesses from each other's testimony. The FBI witness who ended yesterday's proceedings has returned to the stand.
"All rise."
Jury Enters
Questioning of the FBI witness has resumed:
She identifies multiple photographs of Maxwell and Epstein. These photos are being identified as being from a CD the FBI agent reviewed from the Maxwell investigation.
Testimony ended yesterday with CDs being found during the 2019 raid on Epstein's NY townhouse, including inside his safe: https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1468231478609944582/photo/1 https://archive.ph/z4wFH
Various photographs are shown to the jury of the two of them embracing and images of Maxwell appearing to massage Epstein's foot. On cross examination, the FBI witness (Kimberly Meder) agrees that thousands of images were recovered — though she says she doesn't know when asked if tens of thousands were.
Q: In one set, there were more than 20,000. Is that right?
(Long pause as the witness reviews records, doesn't see the number, is prompted where to look and eventually replies yes.)
Asked whether she doesn't know whether the photos were altered, the witness replies: "Correct."
This witness's testimony concludes. The next witness, from the FBI's Computer Analysis Response Team (CART), introduces an email from "GMax" complaining about unsatisfactory housekeeping from John, apparently a clear reference to the prior witness Juan Alessi.
Dated May 25, 2001, "GMax" grouses in the missive: "I need to what if any list John is using and he needs to understand he is doing a truly awful job."
Among her complaints, she says the "massage creams etc in JE's bathroom were a mess." Intriguing new file created by "GMax" on Oct. 14, 2002, entered into evidence. It reads:
"Jeffrey and Ghislaine have been together, a couple, for the last 11 years. They are, contrary to what many people think, rarely apart — I almost always see them together."
"Ghislaine is highly intelligent and great company with a ready smile and an infectious laugh who always puts one at ones [sic] ease," the file created by "GMax" continues.
On cross-examination, the defense is establishing that the documents were written on a desktop and could not be geolocated.
Side note: The witness is treating the wrong letter of Ghislaine as silent. He's pronouncing it "Gis-ayne." It's "Ghee-lehn."
Recess
Trial continues and a witness testifying under the first name Carolyn takes the stand. An attorney clarifies she's testifying under her first name only, rather than a pseudonym.
Carolyn describes a relationship with someone named "Sean," whom she says she was told was 17. She says she learned he was 14 at her birthday party. Through Sean, Carolyn says, she met Virginia
She says she was introduced to give Epstein a massage and make money.
Q: About how old were you the first time you went to Jeffrey Epstein's house?
A: 14.
Carolyn describes meeting Maxwell for the first time.
"She had an accent and she had shoulder-length black hair."
Carolyn says she called her by her surname: Maxwell.
"Because I didn't exactly pronounce her first name correctly."
Maxwell took off her clothes, and Carolyn left on her bra and underwear, she testifies.
Carolyn: After 45 minutes of massaging his back, Epstein turned over, and Epstein and Virginia started having sex.
She says she and Virginia were both paid. Carolyn got $300.
Carolyn says she went to Epstein's house more than 100 times, two to three times a week, between the ages of 14 and 18. Her voice sounds faint and emotional throughout her testimony.
Explaining why she went, Carolyn says it's because she was young and "$300 was a lot of money." Carolyn said that she usually saw Maxwell when she entered the kitchen. "She would just let me know that Mr. Epstein would be back, that he was on a jog."
Carolyn says that she told Maxwell that her mother was an alcoholic and that she was molested. "I remember telling her that I had been raped and molested by grandfather starting at the age of four."
When invited to go to the island, Carolyn says, she told Maxwell she was "too young" and "there was no way in hell" she'd be allowed to go there.
Q: Did she touch you?
A: Yes.
Q: Where?
A: On my breasts.
Carolyn says she brought three friends to Epstein's house.
Asked what she was doing with the money she made at Jeffrey Epstein's house, Carolyn breaks down into tears when saying: "Buying drugs."
She says she was arrested for her drug use. "I handed the officer the drugs."
Q: Why did you do that?
A: Because I was an idiot. (she laughs)
She agrees she was later arrested for possessing stolen property.
[Extra Details c/o Adam Klasfeld]
Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyer said prosecutors plan to call "Jane's" brother "Brian" to back up her testimony. Defense claims that "Jane" contacted him after leaving the stand.
Menninger said that "Jane" told "Brian" that Maxwell's lawyer was an "expletive that rhymes with 'front'.'" Maxwell's defense wants to exclude "Brian's" testimony.
Judge Nathan expressed concerns about whether any coaching took place and is considering the request to exclude it. The prosecutor says that "Brian" informed the govt about the convo with "Jane," whom 'Brian' insists did not go into details of her testimony.
"Jane" told him "he should know that the defense attorney is an 'expletive,'" "Brian" told the govt.
Judge Nathan: The first task is for the govt to fully inquire about what 'Brian' learned from 'Jane' or anyone else" about the conversation.
To be clear:
At issue here is less the "expletive that rhymes with 'front'" than the conversation that took place. Ghislaine Maxwell's counsel is arguing that it could violate the court's sequestration order shielding witnesses from each other's testimony. The FBI witness who ended yesterday's proceedings has returned to the stand.
"All rise."
Jury Enters
Questioning of the FBI witness has resumed:
She identifies multiple photographs of Maxwell and Epstein. These photos are being identified as being from a CD the FBI agent reviewed from the Maxwell investigation.
Testimony ended yesterday with CDs being found during the 2019 raid on Epstein's NY townhouse, including inside his safe: https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1468231478609944582/photo/1 https://archive.ph/z4wFH
Various photographs are shown to the jury of the two of them embracing and images of Maxwell appearing to massage Epstein's foot. On cross examination, the FBI witness (Kimberly Meder) agrees that thousands of images were recovered — though she says she doesn't know when asked if tens of thousands were.
Q: In one set, there were more than 20,000. Is that right?
(Long pause as the witness reviews records, doesn't see the number, is prompted where to look and eventually replies yes.)
Asked whether she doesn't know whether the photos were altered, the witness replies: "Correct."
This witness's testimony concludes. The next witness, from the FBI's Computer Analysis Response Team (CART), introduces an email from "GMax" complaining about unsatisfactory housekeeping from John, apparently a clear reference to the prior witness Juan Alessi.
Dated May 25, 2001, "GMax" grouses in the missive: "I need to what if any list John is using and he needs to understand he is doing a truly awful job."
Among her complaints, she says the "massage creams etc in JE's bathroom were a mess." Intriguing new file created by "GMax" on Oct. 14, 2002, entered into evidence. It reads:
"Jeffrey and Ghislaine have been together, a couple, for the last 11 years. They are, contrary to what many people think, rarely apart — I almost always see them together."
"Ghislaine is highly intelligent and great company with a ready smile and an infectious laugh who always puts one at ones [sic] ease," the file created by "GMax" continues.
On cross-examination, the defense is establishing that the documents were written on a desktop and could not be geolocated.
Side note: The witness is treating the wrong letter of Ghislaine as silent. He's pronouncing it "Gis-ayne." It's "Ghee-lehn."
Recess
Trial continues and a witness testifying under the first name Carolyn takes the stand. An attorney clarifies she's testifying under her first name only, rather than a pseudonym.
Carolyn describes a relationship with someone named "Sean," whom she says she was told was 17. She says she learned he was 14 at her birthday party. Through Sean, Carolyn says, she met Virginia
She says she was introduced to give Epstein a massage and make money.
Q: About how old were you the first time you went to Jeffrey Epstein's house?
A: 14.
Carolyn describes meeting Maxwell for the first time.
"She had an accent and she had shoulder-length black hair."
Carolyn says she called her by her surname: Maxwell.
"Because I didn't exactly pronounce her first name correctly."
Maxwell took off her clothes, and Carolyn left on her bra and underwear, she testifies.
Carolyn: After 45 minutes of massaging his back, Epstein turned over, and Epstein and Virginia started having sex.
She says she and Virginia were both paid. Carolyn got $300.
Carolyn says she went to Epstein's house more than 100 times, two to three times a week, between the ages of 14 and 18. Her voice sounds faint and emotional throughout her testimony.
Explaining why she went, Carolyn says it's because she was young and "$300 was a lot of money." Carolyn said that she usually saw Maxwell when she entered the kitchen. "She would just let me know that Mr. Epstein would be back, that he was on a jog."
Carolyn says that she told Maxwell that her mother was an alcoholic and that she was molested. "I remember telling her that I had been raped and molested by grandfather starting at the age of four."
When invited to go to the island, Carolyn says, she told Maxwell she was "too young" and "there was no way in hell" she'd be allowed to go there.
Q: Did she touch you?
A: Yes.
Q: Where?
A: On my breasts.
Carolyn says she brought three friends to Epstein's house.
Asked what she was doing with the money she made at Jeffrey Epstein's house, Carolyn breaks down into tears when saying: "Buying drugs."
[Extra Details c/o Adam Klasfeld]
Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyer said prosecutors plan to call "Jane's" brother "Brian" to back up her testimony. Defense claims that "Jane" contacted him after leaving the stand.
Menninger said that "Jane" told "Brian" that Maxwell's lawyer was an "expletive that rhymes with 'front'.'" Maxwell's defense wants to exclude "Brian's" testimony.
Judge Nathan expressed concerns about whether any coaching took place and is considering the request to exclude it. The prosecutor says that "Brian" informed the govt about the convo with "Jane," whom 'Brian' insists did not go into details of her testimony.
"Jane" told him "he should know that the defense attorney is an 'expletive,'" "Brian" told the govt.
Judge Nathan: The first task is for the govt to fully inquire about what 'Brian' learned from 'Jane' or anyone else" about the conversation.
To be clear:
At issue here is less the "expletive that rhymes with 'front'" than the conversation that took place. Ghislaine Maxwell's counsel is arguing that it could violate the court's sequestration order shielding witnesses from each other's testimony. The FBI witness who ended yesterday's proceedings has returned to the stand.
"All rise."
Jury Enters
Questioning of the FBI witness has resumed:
She identifies multiple photographs of Maxwell and Epstein. These photos are being identified as being from a CD the FBI agent reviewed from the Maxwell investigation.
Testimony ended yesterday with CDs being found during the 2019 raid on Epstein's NY townhouse, including inside his safe: https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1468231478609944582/photo/1 https://archive.ph/z4wFH
Various photographs are shown to the jury of the two of them embracing and images of Maxwell appearing to massage Epstein's foot. On cross examination, the FBI witness (Kimberly Meder) agrees that thousands of images were recovered — though she says she doesn't know when asked if tens of thousands were.
Q: In one set, there were more than 20,000. Is that right?
(Long pause as the witness reviews records, doesn't see the number, is prompted where to look and eventually replies yes.)
Asked whether she doesn't know whether the photos were altered, the witness replies: "Correct."
This witness's testimony concludes. The next witness, from the FBI's Computer Analysis Response Team (CART), introduces an email from "GMax" complaining about unsatisfactory housekeeping from John, apparently a clear reference to the prior witness Juan Alessi.
Dated May 25, 2001, "GMax" grouses in the missive: "I need to what if any list John is using and he needs to understand he is doing a truly awful job."
Among her complaints, she says the "massage creams etc in JE's bathroom were a mess." Intriguing new file created by "GMax" on Oct. 14, 2002, entered into evidence. It reads:
"Jeffrey and Ghislaine have been together, a couple, for the last 11 years. They are, contrary to what many people think, rarely apart — I almost always see them together."
"Ghislaine is highly intelligent and great company with a ready smile and an infectious laugh who always puts one at ones [sic] ease," the file created by "GMax" continues.
On cross-examination, the defense is establishing that the documents were written on a desktop and could not be geolocated.
Side note: The witness is treating the wrong letter of Ghislaine as silent. He's pronouncing it "Gis-ayne." It's "Ghee-lehn."
Recess
Trial continues and a witness testifying under the first name Carolyn takes the stand. An attorney clarifies she's testifying under her first name only, rather than a pseudonym.
Carolyn describes a relationship with someone named "Sean," whom she says she was told was 17. She says she learned he was 14 at her birthday party. Through Sean, Carolyn says, she met Virginia
She says she was introduced to give Epstein a massage and make money.
Q: About how old were you the first time you went to Jeffrey Epstein's house?
A: 14.
Carolyn describes meeting Maxwell for the first time.
"She had an accent and she had shoulder-length black hair."
Carolyn says she called her by her surname: Maxwell.
"Because I didn't exactly pronounce her first name correctly."
Maxwell took off her clothes, and Carolyn left on her bra and underwear, she testifies.
Carolyn: After 45 minutes of massaging his back, Epstein turned over, and Epstein and Virginia started having sex.
She says she and Virginia were both paid. Carolyn got $300.
Carolyn says she went to Epstein's house more than 100 times, two to three times a week, between the ages of 14 and 18. Her voice sounds faint and emotional throughout her testimony.
Explaining why she went, Carolyn says it's because she was young and "$300 was a lot of money." Carolyn said that she usually saw Maxwell when she entered the kitchen. "She would just let me know that Mr. Epstein would be back, that he was on a jog."
Carolyn says that she told Maxwell that her mother was an alcoholic and that she was molested. "I remember telling her that I had been raped and molested by grandfather starting at the age of four."
When invited to go to the island, Carolyn says, she told Maxwell she was "too young" and "there was no way in hell" she'd be allowed to go there.
Q: Did she touch you?
A: Yes.
Q: Where?
A: On my breasts.
Carolyn says she brought three friends to Epstein's house.
[Extra Details c/o Adam Klasfeld]
Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyer said prosecutors plan to call "Jane's" brother "Brian" to back up her testimony. Defense claims that "Jane" contacted him after leaving the stand.
Menninger said that "Jane" told "Brian" that Maxwell's lawyer was an "expletive that rhymes with 'front'.'" Maxwell's defense wants to exclude "Brian's" testimony.
Judge Nathan expressed concerns about whether any coaching took place and is considering the request to exclude it. The prosecutor says that "Brian" informed the govt about the convo with "Jane," whom 'Brian' insists did not go into details of her testimony.
"Jane" told him "he should know that the defense attorney is an 'expletive,'" "Brian" told the govt.
Judge Nathan: The first task is for the govt to fully inquire about what 'Brian' learned from 'Jane' or anyone else" about the conversation.
To be clear:
At issue here is less the "expletive that rhymes with 'front'" than the conversation that took place. Ghislaine Maxwell's counsel is arguing that it could violate the court's sequestration order shielding witnesses from each other's testimony. The FBI witness who ended yesterday's proceedings has returned to the stand.
"All rise."
Jury Enters
Questioning of the FBI witness has resumed:
She identifies multiple photographs of Maxwell and Epstein. These photos are being identified as being from a CD the FBI agent reviewed from the Maxwell investigation.
Testimony ended yesterday with CDs being found during the 2019 raid on Epstein's NY townhouse, including inside his safe: https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1468231478609944582/photo/1 https://archive.ph/z4wFH
Various photographs are shown to the jury of the two of them embracing and images of Maxwell appearing to massage Epstein's foot. On cross examination, the FBI witness (Kimberly Meder) agrees that thousands of images were recovered — though she says she doesn't know when asked if tens of thousands were.
Q: In one set, there were more than 20,000. Is that right?
(Long pause as the witness reviews records, doesn't see the number, is prompted where to look and eventually replies yes.)
Asked whether she doesn't know whether the photos were altered, the witness replies: "Correct."
This witness's testimony concludes. The next witness, from the FBI's Computer Analysis Response Team (CART), introduces an email from "GMax" complaining about unsatisfactory housekeeping from John, apparently a clear reference to the prior witness Juan Alessi.
Dated May 25, 2001, "GMax" grouses in the missive: "I need to what if any list John is using and he needs to understand he is doing a truly awful job."
Among her complaints, she says the "massage creams etc in JE's bathroom were a mess." Intriguing new file created by "GMax" on Oct. 14, 2002, entered into evidence. It reads:
"Jeffrey and Ghislaine have been together, a couple, for the last 11 years. They are, contrary to what many people think, rarely apart — I almost always see them together."
"Ghislaine is highly intelligent and great company with a ready smile and an infectious laugh who always puts one at ones [sic] ease," the file created by "GMax" continues.
On cross-examination, the defense is establishing that the documents were written on a desktop and could not be geolocated.
Side note: The witness is treating the wrong letter of Ghislaine as silent. He's pronouncing it "Gis-ayne." It's "Ghee-lehn."
Recess
Trial continues and a witness testifying under the first name Carolyn takes the stand. An attorney clarifies she's testifying under her first name only, rather than a pseudonym.
Carolyn describes a relationship with someone named "Sean," whom she says she was told was 17. She says she learned he was 14 at her birthday party. Through Sean, Carolyn says, she met Virginia
She says she was introduced to give Epstein a massage and make money.
Q: About how old were you the first time you went to Jeffrey Epstein's house?
A: 14.
Carolyn describes meeting Maxwell for the first time.
"She had an accent and she had shoulder-length black hair."
Carolyn says she called her by her surname: Maxwell.
"Because I didn't exactly pronounce her first name correctly."
Maxwell took off her clothes, and Carolyn left on her bra and underwear, she testifies.
Carolyn: After 45 minutes of massaging his back, Epstein turned over, and Epstein and Virginia started having sex.
She says she and Virginia were both paid. Carolyn got $300.
Carolyn says she went to Epstein's house more than 100 times, two to three times a week, between the ages of 14 and 18. Her voice sounds faint and emotional throughout her testimony.
Explaining why she went, Carolyn says it's because she was young and "$300 was a lot of money." Carolyn said that she usually saw Maxwell when she entered the kitchen. "She would just let me know that Mr. Epstein would be back, that he was on a jog."
Carolyn says that she told Maxwell that her mother was an alcoholic and that she was molested. "I remember telling her that I had been raped and molested by grandfather starting at the age of four."
When invited to go to the island, Carolyn says, she told Maxwell she was "too young" and "there was no way in hell" she'd be allowed to go there.
Q: Did she touch you?
A: Yes.
Q: Where?
A: On my breasts.
[Extra Details c/o Adam Klasfeld]
Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyer said prosecutors plan to call "Jane's" brother "Brian" to back up her testimony. Defense claims that "Jane" contacted him after leaving the stand.
Menninger said that "Jane" told "Brian" that Maxwell's lawyer was an "expletive that rhymes with 'front'.'" Maxwell's defense wants to exclude "Brian's" testimony.
Judge Nathan expressed concerns about whether any coaching took place and is considering the request to exclude it. The prosecutor says that "Brian" informed the govt about the convo with "Jane," whom 'Brian' insists did not go into details of her testimony.
"Jane" told him "he should know that the defense attorney is an 'expletive,'" "Brian" told the govt.
Judge Nathan: The first task is for the govt to fully inquire about what 'Brian' learned from 'Jane' or anyone else" about the conversation.
To be clear:
At issue here is less the "expletive that rhymes with 'front'" than the conversation that took place. Ghislaine Maxwell's counsel is arguing that it could violate the court's sequestration order shielding witnesses from each other's testimony. The FBI witness who ended yesterday's proceedings has returned to the stand.
"All rise."
Jury Enters
Questioning of the FBI witness has resumed:
She identifies multiple photographs of Maxwell and Epstein. These photos are being identified as being from a CD the FBI agent reviewed from the Maxwell investigation.
Testimony ended yesterday with CDs being found during the 2019 raid on Epstein's NY townhouse, including inside his safe: https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1468231478609944582/photo/1 https://archive.ph/z4wFH
Various photographs are shown to the jury of the two of them embracing and images of Maxwell appearing to massage Epstein's foot. On cross examination, the FBI witness (Kimberly Meder) agrees that thousands of images were recovered — though she says she doesn't know when asked if tens of thousands were.
Q: In one set, there were more than 20,000. Is that right?
(Long pause as the witness reviews records, doesn't see the number, is prompted where to look and eventually replies yes.)
Asked whether she doesn't know whether the photos were altered, the witness replies: "Correct."
This witness's testimony concludes. The next witness, from the FBI's Computer Analysis Response Team (CART), introduces an email from "GMax" complaining about unsatisfactory housekeeping from John, apparently a clear reference to the prior witness Juan Alessi.
Dated May 25, 2001, "GMax" grouses in the missive: "I need to what if any list John is using and he needs to understand he is doing a truly awful job."
Among her complaints, she says the "massage creams etc in JE's bathroom were a mess." Intriguing new file created by "GMax" on Oct. 14, 2002, entered into evidence. It reads:
"Jeffrey and Ghislaine have been together, a couple, for the last 11 years. They are, contrary to what many people think, rarely apart — I almost always see them together."
"Ghislaine is highly intelligent and great company with a ready smile and an infectious laugh who always puts one at ones [sic] ease," the file created by "GMax" continues.
On cross-examination, the defense is establishing that the documents were written on a desktop and could not be geolocated.
Side note: The witness is treating the wrong letter of Ghislaine as silent. He's pronouncing it "Gis-ayne." It's "Ghee-lehn."
Recess
Trial continues and a witness testifying under the first name Carolyn takes the stand. An attorney clarifies she's testifying under her first name only, rather than a pseudonym.
Carolyn describes a relationship with someone named "Sean," whom she says she told she was 17. She says he learned she was 14 at her birthday party. Through Sean, Carolyn says, she met Virginia
She says she was introduced to give Epstein a massage and make money.
Q: About how old were you the first time you went to Jeffrey Epstein's house?
A: 14.
Carolyn describes meeting Maxwell for the first time.
"She had an accent and she had shoulder-length black hair."
Carolyn says she called her by her surname: Maxwell.
"Because I didn't exactly pronounce her first name correctly."
Maxwell took off her clothes, and Carolyn left on her bra and underwear, she testifies.
Carolyn: After 45 minutes of massaging his back, Epstein turned over, and Epstein and Virginia started having sex.
She says she and Virginia were both paid. Carolyn got $300.
Carolyn says she went to Epstein's house more than 100 times, two to three times a week, between the ages of 14 and 18. Her voice sounds faint and emotional throughout her testimony.
Explaining why she went, Carolyn says it's because she was young and "$300 was a lot of money." Carolyn said that she usually saw Maxwell when she entered the kitchen. "She would just let me know that Mr. Epstein would be back, that he was on a jog."
Carolyn says that she told Maxwell that her mother was an alcoholic and that she was molested. "I remember telling her that I had been raped and molested by grandfather starting at the age of four."
When invited to go to the island, Carolyn says, she told Maxwell she was "too young" and "there was no way in hell" she'd be allowed to go there.
Q: Did she touch you?
A: Yes.
Q: Where?
A: On my breasts.
[Extra Details c/o Adam Klasfeld]
Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyer said prosecutors plan to call "Jane's" brother "Brian" to back up her testimony. Defense claims that "Jane" contacted him after leaving the stand.
Menninger said that "Jane" told "Brian" that Maxwell's lawyer was an "expletive that rhymes with 'front'.'" Maxwell's defense wants to exclude "Brian's" testimony.
Judge Nathan expressed concerns about whether any coaching took place and is considering the request to exclude it. The prosecutor says that "Brian" informed the govt about the convo with "Jane," whom 'Brian' insists did not go into details of her testimony.
"Jane" told him "he should know that the defense attorney is an 'expletive,'" "Brian" told the govt.
Judge Nathan: The first task is for the govt to fully inquire about what 'Brian' learned from 'Jane' or anyone else" about the conversation.
To be clear:
At issue here is less the "expletive that rhymes with 'front'" than the conversation that took place. Ghislaine Maxwell's counsel is arguing that it could violate the court's sequestration order shielding witnesses from each other's testimony. The FBI witness who ended yesterday's proceedings has returned to the stand.
"All rise."
Jury Enters
Questioning of the FBI witness has resumed:
She identifies multiple photographs of Maxwell and Epstein. These photos are being identified as being from a CD the FBI agent reviewed from the Maxwell investigation.
Testimony ended yesterday with CDs being found during the 2019 raid on Epstein's NY townhouse, including inside his safe: https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1468231478609944582/photo/1 https://archive.ph/z4wFH
Various photographs are shown to the jury of the two of them embracing and images of Maxwell appearing to massage Epstein's foot. On cross examination, the FBI witness (Kimberly Meder) agrees that thousands of images were recovered — though she says she doesn't know when asked if tens of thousands were.
Q: In one set, there were more than 20,000. Is that right?
(Long pause as the witness reviews records, doesn't see the number, is prompted where to look and eventually replies yes.)
Asked whether she doesn't know whether the photos were altered, the witness replies: "Correct."
This witness's testimony concludes. The next witness, from the FBI's Computer Analysis Response Team (CART), introduces an email from "GMax" complaining about unsatisfactory housekeeping from John, apparently a clear reference to the prior witness Juan Alessi.
Dated May 25, 2001, "GMax" grouses in the missive: "I need to what if any list John is using and he needs to understand he is doing a truly awful job."
Among her complaints, she says the "massage creams etc in JE's bathroom were a mess." Intriguing new file created by "GMax" on Oct. 14, 2002, entered into evidence. It reads:
"Jeffrey and Ghislaine have been together, a couple, for the last 11 years. They are, contrary to what many people think, rarely apart — I almost always see them together."
"Ghislaine is highly intelligent and great company with a ready smile and an infectious laugh who always puts one at ones [sic] ease," the file created by "GMax" continues.
On cross-examination, the defense is establishing that the documents were written on a desktop and could not be geolocated.
Side note: The witness is treating the wrong letter of Ghislaine as silent. He's pronouncing it "Gis-ayne." It's "Ghee-lehn."
Recess
Trial continues and a witness testifying under the first name Carolyn takes the stand. An attorney clarifies she's testifying under her first name only, rather than a pseudonym.
Carolyn describes a relationship with someone named "Sean," whom she says she told she was 17. She says he learned she was 14 at her birthday party. Through Sean, Carolyn says, she met Virginia
She says she was introduced to give Epstein a massage and make money.
Q: About how old were you the first time you went to Jeffrey Epstein's house?
A: 14.
Carolyn describes meeting Maxwell for the first time.
"She had an accent and she had shoulder-length black hair."
Carolyn says she called her by her surname: Maxwell.
"Because I didn't exactly pronounce her first name correctly."
Maxwell took off her clothes, and Carolyn left on her bra and underwear, she testifies.
Carolyn: After 45 minutes of massaging his back, Epstein turned over, and Epstein and Virginia started having sex.
She says she and Virginia were both paid. Carolyn got $300.
Carolyn says she went to Epstein's house more than 100 times, two to three times a week, between the ages of 14 and 18. Her voice sounds faint and emotional throughout her testimony.
Explaining why she went, Carolyn says it's because she was young and "$300 was a lot of money." Carolyn said that she usually saw Maxwell when she entered the kitchen. "She would just let me know that Mr. Epstein would be back, that he was on a jog."
Carolyn says that she told Maxwell that her mother was an alcoholic and that she was molested. "I remember telling her that I had been raped and molested by grandfather starting at the age of four."
[Extra Details c/o Adam Klasfeld]
Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyer said prosecutors plan to call "Jane's" brother "Brian" to back up her testimony. Defense claims that "Jane" contacted him after leaving the stand.
Menninger said that "Jane" told "Brian" that Maxwell's lawyer was an "expletive that rhymes with 'front'.'" Maxwell's defense wants to exclude "Brian's" testimony.
Judge Nathan expressed concerns about whether any coaching took place and is considering the request to exclude it. The prosecutor says that "Brian" informed the govt about the convo with "Jane," whom 'Brian' insists did not go into details of her testimony.
"Jane" told him "he should know that the defense attorney is an 'expletive,'" "Brian" told the govt.
Judge Nathan: The first task is for the govt to fully inquire about what 'Brian' learned from 'Jane' or anyone else" about the conversation.
To be clear:
At issue here is less the "expletive that rhymes with 'front'" than the conversation that took place. Ghislaine Maxwell's counsel is arguing that it could violate the court's sequestration order shielding witnesses from each other's testimony. The FBI witness who ended yesterday's proceedings has returned to the stand.
"All rise."
Jury Enters
Questioning of the FBI witness has resumed:
She identifies multiple photographs of Maxwell and Epstein. These photos are being identified as being from a CD the FBI agent reviewed from the Maxwell investigation.
Testimony ended yesterday with CDs being found during the 2019 raid on Epstein's NY townhouse, including inside his safe: https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1468231478609944582/photo/1 https://archive.ph/z4wFH
Various photographs are shown to the jury of the two of them embracing and images of Maxwell appearing to massage Epstein's foot. On cross examination, the FBI witness (Kimberly Meder) agrees that thousands of images were recovered — though she says she doesn't know when asked if tens of thousands were.
Q: In one set, there were more than 20,000. Is that right?
(Long pause as the witness reviews records, doesn't see the number, is prompted where to look and eventually replies yes.)
Asked whether she doesn't know whether the photos were altered, the witness replies: "Correct."
This witness's testimony concludes. The next witness, from the FBI's Computer Analysis Response Team (CART), introduces an email from "GMax" complaining about unsatisfactory housekeeping from John, apparently a clear reference to the prior witness Juan Alessi.
Dated May 25, 2001, "GMax" grouses in the missive: "I need to what if any list John is using and he needs to understand he is doing a truly awful job."
Among her complaints, she says the "massage creams etc in JE's bathroom were a mess." Intriguing new file created by "GMax" on Oct. 14, 2002, entered into evidence. It reads:
"Jeffrey and Ghislaine have been together, a couple, for the last 11 years. They are, contrary to what many people think, rarely apart — I almost always see them together."
"Ghislaine is highly intelligent and great company with a ready smile and an infectious laugh who always puts one at ones [sic] ease," the file created by "GMax" continues.
On cross-examination, the defense is establishing that the documents were written on a desktop and could not be geolocated.
Side note: The witness is treating the wrong letter of Ghislaine as silent. He's pronouncing it "Gis-ayne." It's "Ghee-lehn."
Recess
Trial continues and a witness testifying under the first name Carolyn takes the stand. An attorney clarifies she's testifying under her first name only, rather than a pseudonym.
Carolyn describes a relationship with someone named "Sean," whom she says she told she was 17. She says he learned she was 14 at her birthday party. Through Sean, Carolyn says, she met Virginia
She says she was introduced to give Epstein a massage and make money.
Q: About how old were you the first time you went to Jeffrey Epstein's house?
A: 14.
Carolyn describes meeting Maxwell for the first time.
"She had an accent and she had shoulder-length black hair."
Carolyn says she called her by her surname: Maxwell.
"Because I didn't exactly pronounce her first name correctly."
Maxwell took off her clothes, and Carolyn left on her bra and underwear, she testifies.
Carolyn: After 45 minutes of massaging his back, Epstein turned over, and Epstein and Virginia started having sex.
She says she and Virginia were both paid. Carolyn got $300.
Carolyn says she went to Epstein's house more than 100 times, two to three times a week, between the ages of 14 and 18. Her voice sounds faint and emotional throughout her testimony.
Explaining why she went, Carolyn says it's because she was young and "$300 was a lot of money." Carolyn said that she usually saw Maxwell when she entered the kitchen. "She would just let me know that Mr. Epstein would be back, that he was on a jog."
[Extra Details c/o Adam Klasfeld]
Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyer said prosecutors plan to call "Jane's" brother "Brian" to back up her testimony. Defense claims that "Jane" contacted him after leaving the stand.
Menninger said that "Jane" told "Brian" that Maxwell's lawyer was an "expletive that rhymes with 'front'.'" Maxwell's defense wants to exclude "Brian's" testimony.
Judge Nathan expressed concerns about whether any coaching took place and is considering the request to exclude it. The prosecutor says that "Brian" informed the govt about the convo with "Jane," whom 'Brian' insists did not go into details of her testimony.
"Jane" told him "he should know that the defense attorney is an 'expletive,'" "Brian" told the govt.
Judge Nathan: The first task is for the govt to fully inquire about what 'Brian' learned from 'Jane' or anyone else" about the conversation.
To be clear:
At issue here is less the "expletive that rhymes with 'front'" than the conversation that took place. Ghislaine Maxwell's counsel is arguing that it could violate the court's sequestration order shielding witnesses from each other's testimony. The FBI witness who ended yesterday's proceedings has returned to the stand.
"All rise."
Jury Enters
Questioning of the FBI witness has resumed:
She identifies multiple photographs of Maxwell and Epstein. These photos are being identified as being from a CD the FBI agent reviewed from the Maxwell investigation.
Testimony ended yesterday with CDs being found during the 2019 raid on Epstein's NY townhouse, including inside his safe: https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1468231478609944582/photo/1 https://archive.ph/z4wFH
Various photographs are shown to the jury of the two of them embracing and images of Maxwell appearing to massage Epstein's foot. On cross examination, the FBI witness (Kimberly Meder) agrees that thousands of images were recovered — though she says she doesn't know when asked if tens of thousands were.
Q: In one set, there were more than 20,000. Is that right?
(Long pause as the witness reviews records, doesn't see the number, is prompted where to look and eventually replies yes.)
Asked whether she doesn't know whether the photos were altered, the witness replies: "Correct."
This witness's testimony concludes. The next witness, from the FBI's Computer Analysis Response Team (CART), introduces an email from "GMax" complaining about unsatisfactory housekeeping from John, apparently a clear reference to the prior witness Juan Alessi.
Dated May 25, 2001, "GMax" grouses in the missive: "I need to what if any list John is using and he needs to understand he is doing a truly awful job."
Among her complaints, she says the "massage creams etc in JE's bathroom were a mess." Intriguing new file created by "GMax" on Oct. 14, 2002, entered into evidence. It reads:
"Jeffrey and Ghislaine have been together, a couple, for the last 11 years. They are, contrary to what many people think, rarely apart — I almost always see them together."
"Ghislaine is highly intelligent and great company with a ready smile and an infectious laugh who always puts one at ones [sic] ease," the file created by "GMax" continues.
On cross-examination, the defense is establishing that the documents were written on a desktop and could not be geolocated.
Side note: The witness is treating the wrong letter of Ghislaine as silent. He's pronouncing it "Gis-ayne." It's "Ghee-lehn."
Recess
Trial continues and a witness testifying under the first name Carolyn takes the stand. An attorney clarifies she's testifying under her first name only, rather than a pseudonym.
Carolyn describes a relationship with someone named "Sean," whom she says she told she was 17. She says he learned she was 14 at her birthday party. Through Sean, Carolyn says, she met Virginia
She says she was introduced to give Epstein a massage and make money.
Q: About how old were you the first time you went to Jeffrey Epstein's house?
A: 14.
Carolyn describes meeting Maxwell for the first time.
"She had an accent and she had shoulder-length black hair."
Carolyn says she called her by her surname: Maxwell.
"Because I didn't exactly pronounce her first name correctly."
Maxwell took off her clothes, and Carolyn left on her bra and underwear, she testifies.
Carolyn: After 45 minutes of massaging his back, Epstein turned over, and Epstein and Virginia started having sex.
She says she and Virginia were both paid. Carolyn got $300.
Carolyn says she went to Epstein's house more than 100 times, two to three times a week, between the ages of 14 and 18. Her voice sounds faint and emotional throughout her testimony.
Explaining why she went, Carolyn says it's because she was young and "$300 was a lot of money."
[Extra Details c/o Adam Klasfeld]
Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyer said prosecutors plan to call "Jane's" brother "Brian" to back up her testimony. Defense claims that "Jane" contacted him after leaving the stand.
Menninger said that "Jane" told "Brian" that Maxwell's lawyer was an "expletive that rhymes with 'front'.'" Maxwell's defense wants to exclude "Brian's" testimony.
Judge Nathan expressed concerns about whether any coaching took place and is considering the request to exclude it. The prosecutor says that "Brian" informed the govt about the convo with "Jane," whom 'Brian' insists did not go into details of her testimony.
"Jane" told him "he should know that the defense attorney is an 'expletive,'" "Brian" told the govt.
Judge Nathan: The first task is for the govt to fully inquire about what 'Brian' learned from 'Jane' or anyone else" about the conversation.
To be clear:
At issue here is less the "expletive that rhymes with 'front'" than the conversation that took place. Ghislaine Maxwell's counsel is arguing that it could violate the court's sequestration order shielding witnesses from each other's testimony. The FBI witness who ended yesterday's proceedings has returned to the stand.
"All rise."
Jury Enters
Questioning of the FBI witness has resumed:
She identifies multiple photographs of Maxwell and Epstein. These photos are being identified as being from a CD the FBI agent reviewed from the Maxwell investigation.
Testimony ended yesterday with CDs being found during the 2019 raid on Epstein's NY townhouse, including inside his safe: https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1468231478609944582/photo/1 https://archive.ph/z4wFH
Various photographs are shown to the jury of the two of them embracing and images of Maxwell appearing to massage Epstein's foot. On cross examination, the FBI witness (Kimberly Meder) agrees that thousands of images were recovered — though she says she doesn't know when asked if tens of thousands were.
Q: In one set, there were more than 20,000. Is that right?
(Long pause as the witness reviews records, doesn't see the number, is prompted where to look and eventually replies yes.)
Asked whether she doesn't know whether the photos were altered, the witness replies: "Correct."
This witness's testimony concludes. The next witness, from the FBI's Computer Analysis Response Team (CART), introduces an email from "GMax" complaining about unsatisfactory housekeeping from John, apparently a clear reference to the prior witness Juan Alessi.
Dated May 25, 2001, "GMax" grouses in the missive: "I need to what if any list John is using and he needs to understand he is doing a truly awful job."
Among her complaints, she says the "massage creams etc in JE's bathroom were a mess." Intriguing new file created by "GMax" on Oct. 14, 2002, entered into evidence. It reads:
"Jeffrey and Ghislaine have been together, a couple, for the last 11 years. They are, contrary to what many people think, rarely apart — I almost always see them together."
"Ghislaine is highly intelligent and great company with a ready smile and an infectious laugh who always puts one at ones [sic] ease," the file created by "GMax" continues.
On cross-examination, the defense is establishing that the documents were written on a desktop and could not be geolocated.
Side note: The witness is treating the wrong letter of Ghislaine as silent. He's pronouncing it "Gis-ayne." It's "Ghee-lehn."
Recess
[Extra Details c/o Adam Klasfeld]
Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyer said prosecutors plan to call "Jane's" brother "Brian" to back up her testimony. Defense claims that "Jane" contacted him after leaving the stand.
Menninger said that "Jane" told "Brian" that Maxwell's lawyer was an "expletive that rhymes with 'front.'" Maxwell's defense wants to exclude "Brian's" testimony.
Judge Nathan expressed concerns about whether any coaching took place and is considering the request to exclude it. The prosecutor says that "Brian" informed the govt about the convo with "Jane," whom 'Brian' insists did not go into details of her testimony.
"Jane" told him "he should know that the defense attorney is an 'expletive,'" "Brian" told the govt.
Judge Nathan: The first task is for the govt to fully inquire about what 'Brian' learned from 'Jane' or anyone else" about the conservation.
To be clear:
At issue here is less the "expletive that rhymes with 'front'" than the conversation that took place. Ghislaine Maxwell's counsel is arguing that it could violate the court's sequestration order shielding witnesses from each other's testimony. The FBI witness who ended yesterday's proceedings has returned to the stand.
"All rise."
Jury Enters
Questioning of the FBI witness has resumed:
She identifies multiple photographs of Maxwell and Epstein. These photos are being identified as being from a CD the FBI agent reviewed from the Maxwell investigation.
Testimony ended yesterday with CDs being found during the 2019 raid on Epstein's NY townhouse, including inside his safe: https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1468231478609944582/photo/1 https://archive.ph/z4wFH
Various photographs are shown to the jury of the two of them embracing and images of Maxwell appearing to massage Epstein's foot. On cross examination, the FBI witness (Kimberly Meder) agrees that thousands of images were recovered — though she says she doesn't know when asked if tens of thousands were.
Q: In one set, there were more than 20,000. Is that right?
(Long pause as the witness reviews records, doesn't see the number, is prompted where to look and eventually replies yes.)
Asked whether she doesn't know whether the photos were altered, the witness replies: "Correct."
This witness's testimony concludes. The next witness, from the FBI's Computer Analysis Response Team (CART), introduces an email from "GMax" complaining about unsatisfactory housekeeping from John, apparently a clear reference to the prior witness Juan Alessi.
Dated May 25, 2001, "GMax" grouses in the missive: "I need to what if any list John is using and he needs to understand he is doing a truly awful job."
Among her complaints, she says the "massage creams etc in JE's bathroom were a mess." Intriguing new file created by "GMax" on Oct. 14, 2002, entered into evidence. It reads:
"Jeffrey and Ghislaine have been together, a couple, for the last 11 years. They are, contrary to what many people think, rarely apart — I almost always see them together."
"Ghislaine is highly intelligent and great company with a ready smile and an infectious laugh who always puts one at ones [sic] ease," the file created by "GMax" continues.
On cross-examination, the defense is establishing that the documents were written on a desktop and could not be geolocated.
Side note: The witness is treating the wrong letter of Ghislaine as silent. He's pronouncing it "Gis-ayne." It's "Ghee-lehn."
Recess
[Extra Details c/o Adam Klasfeld]
Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyer said prosecutors plan to call "Jane's" brother "Brian" to back up her testimony. Defense claims that "Jane" contacted him after leaving the stand.
Menninger said that "Jane" told "Brian" that Maxwell's lawyer was an "expletive that rhymes with 'front.'" Maxwell's defense wants to exclude "Brian's" testimony.
Judge Nathan expressed concerns about whether any coaching took place and is considering the request to exclude it. The prosecutor says that "Brian" informed the govt about the convo with "Jane," whom 'Brian' insists did not go into details of her testimony.
"Jane" told him "he should know that the defense attorney is an 'expletive,'" "Brian" told the govt.
Judge Nathan: The first task is for the govt to fully inquire about what 'Brian' learned from 'Jane' or anyone else" about the conservation.
To be clear:
At issue here is less the "expletive that rhymes with 'front'" than the conversation that took place. Ghislaine Maxwell's counsel is arguing that it could violate the court's sequestration order shielding witnesses from each other's testimony. The FBI witness who ended yesterday's proceedings has returned to the stand.
"All rise."
Jury Enters
Questioning of the FBI witness has resumed:
She identifies multiple photographs of Maxwell and Epstein. These photos are being identified as being from a CD the FBI agent reviewed from the Maxwell investigation.
Testimony ended yesterday with CDs being found during the 2019 raid on Epstein's NY townhouse, including inside his safe: https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1468231478609944582/photo/1 https://archive.ph/z4wFH
Various photographs are shown to the jury of the two of them embracing and images of Maxwell appearing to massage Epstein's foot. On cross examination, the FBI witness (Kimberly Meder) agrees that thousands of images were recovered — though she says she doesn't know when asked if tens of thousands were.
Q: In one set, there were more than 20,000. Is that right?
(Long pause as the witness reviews records, doesn't see the number, is prompted where to look and eventually replies yes.)
Asked whether she doesn't know whether the photos were altered, the witness replies: "Correct."
This witness's testimony concludes. The next witness, from the FBI's Computer Analysis Response Team (CART), introduces an email from "GMax" complaining about unsatisfactory housekeeping from John, apparently a clear reference to the prior witness Juan Alessi.
Dated May 25, 2001, "GMax" grouses in the missive: "I need to what if any list John is using and he needs to understand he is doing a truly awful job."
Among her complaints, she says the "massage creams etc in JE's bathroom were a mess." Intriguing new file created by "GMax" on Oct. 14, 2002, entered into evidence. It reads:
"Jeffrey and Ghislaine have been together, a couple, for the last 11 years. They are, contrary to what many people think, rarely apart — I almost always see them together."