[Extra details c/o Adam Klasfeld]
Depending on your metrics, we're entering either Day Five of Ghislaine Maxwell deliberations or the fourth full day of deliberations.
By any metric, the jury's been thorough—and they're a bit confused about New Mexico.
Some context:
Their last request for clarification was about the fourth of six charges, and they previously sought guidance about Carolyn, who's at the heart of the last two counts.
We don't know they're approaching the verdict sheet chronologically, but if they are...
New on the docket: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHs2rp3WYAQqQ-G?format=png
Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyers note juror confusion about the elements of the fourth count, which accuses her of transporting "Jane" from Florida to NYC for illegal sex acts with Epstein.
Jurors asked about... New Mexico. They want Judge Nathan to correct them.
Nathan essentially told jurors to re-read the jury charge, which laid out the correct standard: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHs39FJXwAI8OWB?format=jpg
Maxwell's lawyers say that's not good enough. Maxwell's attorneys want Judge Nathan to issue these additional instructions: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHs6-7JWQA050Ov?format=png
Judge Nathan is addressing the new docket letter now, saying it was filed in the "wee hours."
The prosecutor urges against any change. She says it was a "thorough and carefully considered" legal instruction.
There's nothing wrong with referring them to the correct legal instruction, which was the jury charge they received before deliberations.
Judge Nathan notes that the defense's jury instruction addresses Count Two—which the jury didn't ask about.
She also says the defense's final proposed instruction is "just wrong"; jurors can consider conduct outside of New York in deciding on conduct in New York, she says. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHs_BZEXsAMBNh8?format=png
Judge Nathan also puts on the record that there's an "astronomical spike" of COVID-19 infections in New York, in explaining the need for extending deliberation an hour.
As the jury still deliberates in the Maxwell case, Prince Andrew tries to stave off Virginia Giuffre's civil lawsuit by arguing that the U.S. court may not have jurisdiction:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHton_TXsAQWPJN?format=png
The prince is attacking Giuffre's ties to Colorado, claiming she's "actually domiciled in Australia." Prince Andrew's attorneys want "limited jurisdictional discovery" on this issue—and stay all other discovery—before formally challenging jurisdiction.
Judge Nathan enters and reads a jury note.
"Our deliberations are moving along, and we are making progress."
They want to adjourn at 5 p.m. and come in at 9 a.m.
Judge Nathan says she must require the jurors to come in every day until they reach a verdict because of the "highly contagious Omicron variant."
"I must require deliberations every day forward until they reach a verdict."
The judge says that this is necessary to avoid a mistrial in the event of an outbreak.
The jury enters the courtroom.
Judge Nathan tells them she will send them home at the requested time and urges them to take all precautions against COVID. She reminds them of the protocols— N-95 and KN-95 masks at all times plus physical distance.
Judge Nathan asks for them to sit for deliberations every day this week, unless they have "unmovable commitments."
To be clear:
Judge Nathan explicitly contemplated the possibility of this including weekends; the defense raised concerns about that.
Before the jury entered, she said she didn't need to decide that question now, but it's on the table if they don't reach a verdict before then.
[Extra details c/o Adam Klasfeld]
Depending on your metrics, we're entering either Day Five of Ghislaine Maxwell deliberations or the fourth full day of deliberations.
By any metric, the jury's been thorough—and they're a bit confused about New Mexico.
Some context:
Their last request for clarification was about the fourth of six charges, and they previously sought guidance about Carolyn, who's at the heart of the last two counts.
We don't know they're approaching the verdict sheet chronologically, but if they are...
New on the docket: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHs2rp3WYAQqQ-G?format=png
Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyers note juror confusion about the elements of the fourth count, which accuses her of transporting "Jane" from Florida to NYC for illegal sex acts with Epstein.
Jurors asked about... New Mexico. They want Judge Nathan to correct them.
Nathan essentially told jurors to re-read the jury charge, which laid out the correct standard: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHs39FJXwAI8OWB?format=jpg
Maxwell's lawyers say that's not good enough. Maxwell's attorneys want Judge Nathan to issue these additional instructions: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHs6-7JWQA050Ov?format=png
Judge Nathan is addressing the new docket letter now, saying it was filed in the "wee hours."
The prosecutor urges against any change. She says it was a "thorough and carefully considered" legal instruction.
There's nothing wrong with referring them to the correct legal instruction, which was the jury charge they received before deliberations.
Judge Nathan notes that the defense's jury instruction addresses Count Two—which the jury didn't ask about.
She also says the defense's final proposed instruction is "just wrong"; jurors can consider conduct outside of New York in deciding on conduct in New York, she says. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHs_BZEXsAMBNh8?format=png
Judge Nathan also puts on the record that there's an "astronomical spike" of COVID-19 infections in New York, in explaining the need for extending deliberation an hour.
As the jury still deliberates in the Maxwell case, Prince Andrew tries to stave off Virginia Giuffre's civil lawsuit by arguing that the U.S. court may not have jurisdiction:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHton_TXsAQWPJN?format=png
The prince is attacking Giuffre's ties to Colorado, claiming she's "actually domiciled in Australia." Prince Andrew's attorneys want "limited jurisdictional discovery" on this issue—and stay all other discovery—before formally challenging jurisdiction.
Judge Nathan enters and reads a jury note.
"Our deliberations are moving along, and we are making progress."
They want to adjourn at 5 p.m. and come in at 9 a.m.
Judge Nathan says she must require the jurors to come in every day until they reach a verdict because of the "highly contagious Omicron variant."
"I must require deliberations every day forward until they reach a verdict."
The judge says that this is necessary to avoid a mistrial in the event of an outbreak.
The jury enters the courtroom.
Judge Nathan tells them she will send them home at the requested time and urges them to take all precautions against COVID. She reminds them of the protocols— N-95 and KN-95 masks at all times plus physical distance.
Judge Nathan asks for them to sit for deliberations every day this week, unless they have "unmovable commitments."
[Extra details c/o Adam Klasfeld]
Depending on your metrics, we're entering either Day Five of Ghislaine Maxwell deliberations or the fourth full day of deliberations.
By any metric, the jury's been thorough—and they're a bit confused about New Mexico.
Some context:
Their last request for clarification was about the fourth of six charges, and they previously sought guidance about Carolyn, who's at the heart of the last two counts.
We don't know they're approaching the verdict sheet chronologically, but if they are...
New on the docket: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHs2rp3WYAQqQ-G?format=png
Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyers note juror confusion about the elements of the fourth count, which accuses her of transporting "Jane" from Florida to NYC for illegal sex acts with Epstein.
Jurors asked about... New Mexico. They want Judge Nathan to correct them.
Nathan essentially told jurors to re-read the jury charge, which laid out the correct standard: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHs39FJXwAI8OWB?format=jpg
Maxwell's lawyers say that's not good enough. Maxwell's attorneys want Judge Nathan to issue these additional instructions: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHs6-7JWQA050Ov?format=png
Judge Nathan is addressing the new docket letter now, saying it was filed in the "wee hours."
The prosecutor urges against any change. She says it was a "thorough and carefully considered" legal instruction.
There's nothing wrong with referring them to the correct legal instruction, which was the jury charge they received before deliberations.
Judge Nathan notes that the defense's jury instruction addresses Count Two—which the jury didn't ask about.
She also says the defense's final proposed instruction is "just wrong"; jurors can consider conduct outside of New York in deciding on conduct in New York, she says. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHs_BZEXsAMBNh8?format=png
Judge Nathan also puts on the record that there's an "astronomical spike" of COVID-19 infections in New York, in explaining the need for extending deliberation an hour.
As the jury still deliberates in the Maxwell case, Prince Andrew tries to stave off Virginia Giuffre's civil lawsuit by arguing that the U.S. court may not have jurisdiction:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHton_TXsAQWPJN?format=png
The prince is attacking Giuffre's ties to Colorado, claiming she's "actually domiciled in Australia." Prince Andrew's attorneys want "limited jurisdictional discovery" on this issue—and stay all other discovery—before formally challenging jurisdiction.