I would argue you do NOT need an engineering degree to be an engineer. You spend so much time in classes like advanced math, learning about other disciplines you don't care about, and of course all the fluff of a "rounded university education."

My view is there should be a 2-year fundamentals covering the basics, including some math theory but not sorting through ridiculous equations/calc/etc - computers for that, but need to know what you're calculating at least type of thing, then apprenticeship type deal in discipline you want to work in actually on the job.

Edit: I realize I'm not really answering the comment but off on a tangent. Yes, from a "worthwhile you'll probably have a job" standpoint they are worth getting vs most that are truly worthless.

I would argue you do NOT need an engineering degree to be an engineer. You spend so much time in classes like advanced math, learning about other disciplines you don't care about, and of course all the fluff of a "rounded university education."

My view is there should be a 2-year fundamentals covering the basics, including some math theory but not sorting through ridiculous equations/calc/etc - computers for that, but need to know what you're calculating at least type of thing, then apprenticeship type deal in discipline you want to work in actually on the job.