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You didn't answer my other point and now you're trying to roll around it.

You said:

Egypt was full of woke Gnostic scholars who edited the original manuscripts like they did the works of Homer, and made many changes, something the book of Revelation commands us not to do.

Then you gave me the book Against Heresies as a reference.

Against Heresies (Book I, Chapter 10)

https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103110.htm

  1. As I have already observed, the Church, having received this preaching and this faith, although scattered throughout the whole world, yet, as if occupying but one house, carefully preserves it. She also believes these points [of doctrine] just as if she had but one soul, and one and the same heart, and she proclaims them, and teaches them, and hands them down, with perfect harmony, as if she possessed only one mouth. For, although the languages of the world are dissimilar, yet the import of the tradition is one and the same. For the Churches which have been planted in Germany do not believe or hand down anything different, nor do those in Spain, nor those in Gaul, nor those in the East, nor those in Egypt, nor those in Libya, nor those which have been established in the central regions of the world. But as the sun, that creature of God, is one and the same throughout the whole world, so also the preaching of the truth shines everywhere, and enlightens all men that are willing to come to a knowledge of the truth. Nor will any one of the rulers in the Churches, however highly gifted he may be in point of eloquence, teach doctrines different from these (for no one is greater than the Master); nor, on the other hand, will he who is deficient in power of expression inflict injury on the tradition. For the faith being ever one and the same, neither does one who is able at great length to discourse regarding it, make any addition to it, nor does one, who can say but little diminish it.

So I'm to believe that any bible from that time period (and supposedly made in Egypt) is heretical except your source says the Churches planted in Egypt and many other places around the world all hand down the same knowledge and teach the same faith.


If you can't understand why the age of a text has nothing to do with its authenticity, I'm not sure you'll ever understand why the authenticity is better determined by the number of copies in existence that agree with each other in the case of physical manuscripts, especially when believers consider the text to be the Word of God.

This is just like the bullshit we have with Covid. Just because groupthink tells me this is the Bible most people read, it doesn't mean this was the original words or the words intended. Going back to the earliest Bibles found can give a clearer picture of the Bible as it was originally written. More time passed from the original Bible gives more room for corruption and changes in the wording. If a Pope decrees everyone read the corrupted version, the less corrupted version becomes less used and forgotten.

2 years ago
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You didn't answer my other point and now you're trying to roll around it.

You said:

Egypt was full of woke Gnostic scholars who edited the original manuscripts like they did the works of Homer, and made many changes, something the book of Revelation commands us not to do.

Then you gave me the book Against Heresies as a reference.

Against Heresies (Book I, Chapter 10)

https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103110.htm

  1. As I have already observed, the Church, having received this preaching and this faith, although scattered throughout the whole world, yet, as if occupying but one house, carefully preserves it. She also believes these points [of doctrine] just as if she had but one soul, and one and the same heart, and she proclaims them, and teaches them, and hands them down, with perfect harmony, as if she possessed only one mouth. For, although the languages of the world are dissimilar, yet the import of the tradition is one and the same. For the Churches which have been planted in Germany do not believe or hand down anything different, nor do those in Spain, nor those in Gaul, nor those in the East, nor those in Egypt, nor those in Libya, nor those which have been established in the central regions of the world. But as the sun, that creature of God, is one and the same throughout the whole world, so also the preaching of the truth shines everywhere, and enlightens all men that are willing to come to a knowledge of the truth. Nor will any one of the rulers in the Churches, however highly gifted he may be in point of eloquence, teach doctrines different from these (for no one is greater than the Master); nor, on the other hand, will he who is deficient in power of expression inflict injury on the tradition. For the faith being ever one and the same, neither does one who is able at great length to discourse regarding it, make any addition to it, nor does one, who can say but little diminish it.

So I'm to believe that any bible from that time period (and supposedly made in Egypt) is heretical except your source says the Churches planted in Egypt and many other places around the world all hand down the same knowledge and teach the same faith.


If you can't understand why the age of a text has nothing to do with its authenticity, I'm not sure you'll ever understand why the authenticity is better determined by the number of copies in existence that agree with each other in the case of physical manuscripts, especially when believers consider the text to be the Word of God.

This is just like the bullshit we have with Covid. Just because groupthink tells me this is the Bible most people read, it doesn't mean this was the original words or the words intended.

2 years ago
1 score
Reason: Original

You didn't answer my other point and now you're trying to roll around it.

You said:

Egypt was full of woke Gnostic scholars who edited the original manuscripts like they did the works of Homer, and made many changes, something the book of Revelation commands us not to do.

Then you gave me the book Against Heresies as a reference.

Against Heresies (Book I, Chapter 10)

https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103110.htm

  1. As I have already observed, the Church, having received this preaching and this faith, although scattered throughout the whole world, yet, as if occupying but one house, carefully preserves it. She also believes these points [of doctrine] just as if she had but one soul, and one and the same heart, and she proclaims them, and teaches them, and hands them down, with perfect harmony, as if she possessed only one mouth. For, although the languages of the world are dissimilar, yet the import of the tradition is one and the same. For the Churches which have been planted in Germany do not believe or hand down anything different, nor do those in Spain, nor those in Gaul, nor those in the East, nor those in Egypt, nor those in Libya, nor those which have been established in the central regions of the world. But as the sun, that creature of God, is one and the same throughout the whole world, so also the preaching of the truth shines everywhere, and enlightens all men that are willing to come to a knowledge of the truth. Nor will any one of the rulers in the Churches, however highly gifted he may be in point of eloquence, teach doctrines different from these (for no one is greater than the Master); nor, on the other hand, will he who is deficient in power of expression inflict injury on the tradition. For the faith being ever one and the same, neither does one who is able at great length to discourse regarding it, make any addition to it, nor does one, who can say but little diminish it.

So I'm to believe that any bible from that time period (and supposedly made in Egypt) is heretical except your source says the Churches planted in Egypt and many other places around the world all hand down the same knowledge and teach the same faith.

2 years ago
1 score