Your remark about the evil intentions of my instructors is sheer paranoid delusion. You don't know anything about them, or have any reason to dispute the veracity of what I am trying to explain.

Yes, I do, because it's become abundantly clear to me that what you believe and assert is a lie, and if you were told these lies in school then somewhere up the chain, a liar convinced the rest of you of this lie.

I didn't "technically" name call. I didn't name call at all. Nor did I curse at you.

No, you didn't, you were just a condescending piece of shit who took every opportunity to straw man, misrepresent, gaslight, and just generally act like a shill.

I am supposed to be impressed and stop asking questions.

No, you are supposed to go look at the evidence for yourself like an adult. Or, do you need your hand held in order to learn, Mr 3 Degrees in Aeronautics and Astronautics?

Sorry. You still don't have anything on the table.

Not that I've gone to the trouble to share with you, since there'd be no point whatsoever.

yet you say there was "no change in the weather." Backtracking.

Nah, you're just incapable of reading what I say with any intellectual honesty. YOU claimed that humidity was the factor, and I said humidity remained the same, and that for chemtrails to fluctuate from dozens of times normal levels to zero, back and forth, would require radical humidity changes, and radically abnormal humidity. There was no such humidity change at surface level, thus "no weather change." But, instead of responding to what I actually said, you cherry pick out a small part that you can pretend I said without context and argue against that. Now, if you're so right, why the need to argue so dishonestly?

I am approaching this from the standpoint of someone with scientific training. You are not.

As I said, there are scientists with better credentials than you who agree with me. I am following their approach, and their evidence. You are not following any evidence at all, just asserting authority.

There is always the null hypothesis (this is all normal).

It isn't normal though. There has never been free aluminum in the rain in the history of the planet, there has never been significant amounts of free aluminum in the soil in the history of the planet. If you call yourself a follower of science, then go fucking look at the data instead of pretending you already know it. Go really confront the claims, run the same experiments and prove them wrong. You won't be able to, because what I've said is simply true. Aluminum is being sprayed into the atmosphere in massive amounts.

For example, soil pH. Good old Wikipedia provides the information that the U.S. Dept. of Agriculture categorizes soils according to pH ranges from 3.5 to 9.0. The U.S. has swaths of predominantly acidic or alkaline soil. Alkaline soil can come from the erosion of aluminosilicate rock, and dust from mining sites, power plants, or incinerators. Aluminum toxicity is greater in acidic soils. Plants have variable pH ranges from lows near 3 to highs near 8.

I'm beginning to believe you are not intelligent behind your mask of shill tactics. What you've posted here in no way whatsoever contradicts what I've said.

Do you begin to see how "chemtrails" is an exceptional explanation for something that is understood to be essentially natural?

No, because nothing you've said has caused me the slightest doubt in my observation of the obvious and the validity of the compounding evidence. In fact, the incredible stupidity and intellectual dishonesty of a supposed aeronautical engineer in trying to argue against this evidence only serves to make me more sure. If it wasn't true, you'd have an easy time demonstrating it without relying completely on shill tactics.

I get the impression that you don't do your own homework.

Lol, and you do? You have no fucking clue what the claims even are about chemtrails, you just dismiss it out of hand because you've got 3 degrees so you obviously know enough to not even hear the argument. You're a joke, go say that to a mirror, lol.

So, I am not "making shit up." Not in the least.

Yeah, you are. You're not only making up dumb assumed evidence you don't have, but also making up dumb assumed arguments and lack of evidence by chemtrail alarmists, and also making up dumb arguments on my behalf to straw man me. I'd go so far as to say most of what you've said is you arguing with an elaborate fantasy of what you think I and others are saying, far removed from reality.

That is your psychological defense mechanism for something you can't answer---just deny it. Have the "chemtrail" scientists put their discoveries into a book with references?

Lol, yeah they have, many. Goodness, you're a dumb ass. Honestly, you could take like one second to think about that claim and realize "well, duh, even if they're wrong they'll have published a hundred referenced books about it" and not said that. Or, you could have taken two seconds to check if they had.

Science is primarily an effort in replication of results, so a complete description of their research, evidence, and conclusions would be needed to change people's minds.

No, that is incorrect. Because, they already have this, yet you remain steadfastly ignorant. You could find this data in a few minutes, just as I did, but you don't. You demand its existence, assert its nonexistence as an argument, but even if you're presented with it (links leading to such data and research have been posted to this very thread by several people), you ignore it, and scream at the top of your arrogant lungs that it doesn't exist.

And if there is enough to win a criminal case, why hasn't one been filed?

Many have, they generally get tossed on technicalities, just like all the election lawsuits. Or, do you think the election was totally legit, too? And there's no corruption in the justice system?

Your remark about the evil intentions of my instructors is sheer paranoid delusion. You don't know anything about them, or have any reason to dispute the veracity of what I am trying to explain.

Yes, I do, because it's become abundantly clear to me that what you believe and assert is a lie, and if you were told these lies in school then somewhere up the chain, a liar convinced the rest of you of this lie.

I didn't "technically" name call. I didn't name call at all. Nor did I curse at you.

No, you didn't, you were just a condescending piece of shit who took every opportunity to straw man, misrepresent, gaslight, and just generally act like a shill.

I am supposed to be impressed and stop asking questions.

No, you are supposed to go look at the evidence for yourself like an adult. Or, do you need your hand held in order to learn, Mr 3 Degrees in Aeronautics and Astronautics?

Sorry. You still don't have anything on the table.

Not that I've gone to the trouble to share with you, since there'd be no point whatsoever.

yet you say there was "no change in the weather." Backtracking.

Nah, you're just incapable of reading what I say with any intellectual honesty. YOU claimed that humidity was the factor, and I said humidity remained the same, and that for chemtrails to fluctuate from dozens of times normal levels to zero, back and forth, would require radical humidity changes, and radically abnormal humidity. There was no such humidity change at surface level, thus "no weather change." But, instead of responding to what I actually said, you cherry pick out a small part that you can pretend I said without context and argue against that. Now, if you're so right, why the need to argue so dishonestly?

I am approaching this from the standpoint of someone with scientific training. You are not.

As I said, there are scientists with better credentials than you who agree with me. I am following their approach, and their evidence. You are not following any evidence at all, just asserting authority.

There is always the null hypothesis (this is all normal).

It isn't normal though. There has never been free aluminum in the rain in the history of the planet, there has never been significant amounts of free aluminum in the soil in the history of the planet. If you call yourself a follower of science, then go fucking look at the data instead of pretending you already know it. Go really confront the claims, run the same experiments and prove them wrong. You won't be able to, because what I've said is simply true. Aluminum is being sprayed into the atmosphere in massive amounts.

For example, soil pH. Good old Wikipedia provides the information that the U.S. Dept. of Agriculture categorizes soils according to pH ranges from 3.5 to 9.0. The U.S. has swaths of predominantly acidic or alkaline soil. Alkaline soil can come from the erosion of aluminosilicate rock, and dust from mining sites, power plants, or incinerators. Aluminum toxicity is greater in acidic soils. Plants have variable pH ranges from lows near 3 to highs near 8.

I'm beginning to believe you are not intelligent behind your mask of shill tactics. What you've posted here in no way whatsoever contradicts what I've said.

Do you begin to see how "chemtrails" is an exceptional explanation for something that is understood to be essentially natural?

No, because nothing you've said has caused me the slightest doubt in my observation of the obvious and the validity of the compounding evidence. In fact, the incredible stupidity and intellectual dishonesty of a supposed aeronautical engineer in trying to argue against this evidence only serves to make me more sure. If it wasn't true, you'd have an easy time demonstrating it without relying completely on shill tactics.

I get the impression that you don't do your own homework.

Lol, and you do? You have no fucking clue what the claims even are about chemtrails, you just dismiss it out of hand because you've got 3 degrees so you obviously know enough to not even hear the argument. You're a joke, go say that to a mirror, lol.

So, I am not "making shit up." Not in the least.

Yeah, you are. You're not only making up dumb assumed evidence you don't have, but also making up dumb assumed arguments and lack of evidence by chemtrail alarmists, and also making up dumb arguments on my behalf to straw man me. I'd go so far as to say most of what you've said is you arguing with an elaborate fantasy of what you think I and others are saying, far removed from reality.

That is your psychological defense mechanism for something you can't answer---just deny it. Have the "chemtrail" scientists put their discoveries into a book with references?

Lol, yeah they have, many. Goodness, you're a dumb ass. Honestly, you could take like one second to think about that claim and realize "well, duh, even if they're wrong they'll have published a hundred referenced books about it" and not said that. Or, you could have taken two seconds to check if they had.

Science is primarily an effort in replication of results, so a complete description of their research, evidence, and conclusions would be needed to change people's minds.

No, that is incorrect. Because, they already have this, yet your remain steadfastly ignorant. You could find this data in a few minutes, just as I did, but you don't. You demand its existence, assert its nonexistence as an argument, but even if you're presented with it (links leading to such data and research have been posted to this very thread by several people), you ignore it, and scream at the top of your arrogant lungs that it doesn't exist.

And if there is enough to win a criminal case, why hasn't one been filed?

Many have, they generally get tossed on technicalities, just like all the election lawsuits. Or, do you think the election was totally legit, too? And there's no corruption in the justice system?

Your remark about the evil intentions of my instructors is sheer paranoid delusion. You don't know anything about them, or have any reason to dispute the veracity of what I am trying to explain.

Yes, I do, because it's become abundantly clear to me that what you believe and assert is a lie, and if you were told these lies in school then somewhere up the chain, a liar convinced the rest of you of this lie.

I didn't "technically" name call. I didn't name call at all. Nor did I curse at you.

No, you didn't, you were just a condescending piece of shit who took every opportunity to straw man, misrepresent, gaslight, and just generally act like a shill.

I am supposed to be impressed and stop asking questions.

No, you are supposed to go look at the evidence for yourself like an adult. Or, do you need your hand held in order to learn, Mr 3 Degrees in Aeronautics and Astronautics?

Sorry. You still don't have anything on the table.

Not that I've gone to the trouble to share with you, since there'd be no point whatsoever.

yet you say there was "no change in the weather." Backtracking.

Nah, you're just incapable of reading what I say with any intellectual honesty. YOU claimed that humidity was the factor, and I said humidity remained the same, and that for chemtrails to fluctuate from dozens of times normal levels to zero, back and forth, would require radical humidity changes, and radically abnormal humidity. There was no such humidity change at surface level, thus "no weather change." But, instead of responding to what I actually said, you cherry pick out a small part that you can pretend I said without context and argue against that. Now, if you're so right, why the need to argue so dishonestly?

I am approaching this from the standpoint of someone with scientific training. You are not.

As I said, there are scientists with better credentials than you who agree with me. I am following their approach, and their evidence. You are not following any evidence at all, just asserting authority.

There is always the null hypothesis (this is all normal).

It isn't normal though. There has never been free aluminum in the rain in the history of the planet, there has never been significant amounts of free aluminum in the soil in the history of the planet. If you call yourself a follower of science, then go fucking look at the data instead of pretending you already know it. Go really confront the claims, run the same experiments and prove them wrong. You won't be able to, because what I've said is simply true. Aluminum is being sprayed into the atmosphere in massive amounts.

For example, soil pH. Good old Wikipedia provides the information that the U.S. Dept. of Agriculture categorizes soils according to pH ranges from 3.5 to 9.0. The U.S. has swaths of predominantly acidic or alkaline soil. Alkaline soil can come from the erosion of aluminosilicate rock, and dust from mining sites, power plants, or incinerators. Aluminum toxicity is greater in acidic soils. Plants have variable pH ranges from lows near 3 to highs near 8.

I'm beginning to believe you are not intelligent behind your mask of shill tactics. What you've posted here in no way whatsoever contradicts what I've said.

Do you begin to see how "chemtrails" is an exceptional explanation for something that is understood to be essentially natural?

No, because nothing you've said has caused me the slightest doubt in my observation of the obvious and the validity of the compounding evidence. In fact, the incredible stupidity ad intellectual dishonesty of a supposed aeronautical engineer in trying to argue against this evidence only serves to make me more sure. If I wasn't true, you'd have an easy time demonstrating it without relying completely on shill tactics.

I get the impression that you don't do your own homework.

Lol, and you do? You have no fucking clue what the claims even are about chemtrails, you just dismiss it out of hand because you've got 3 degrees so you obviously know enough to not even hear the argument. You're a joke, go say that to a mirror, lol.

So, I am not "making shit up." Not in the least.

Yeah, you are. You're not only making up dumb assumed evidence you don't have, but also making up dumb assumed arguments and lack of evidence by chemtrail alarmists, and also making up dumb arguments on my behalf to straw man me. I'd go so far as to say most of what you've said is you arguing with an elaborate fantasy of what you think I and others are saying, far removed from reality.

That is your psychological defense mechanism for something you can't answer---just deny it. Have the "chemtrail" scientists put their discoveries into a book with references?

Lol, yeah they have, many. Goodness, you're a dumb ass. Honestly, you could take like one second to think about that claim and realize "well, duh, even if they're wrong they'll have published a hundred referenced books about it" and not said that. Or, you could have taken two seconds to check if they had.

Science is primarily an effort in replication of results, so a complete description of their research, evidence, and conclusions would be needed to change people's minds.

No, that is incorrect. Because, they already have this, yet your mind remains steadfastly ignorant. You could find this data in a few minutes, just as I did, but you don't. You demand it's existence, but even if you're presented with it (links to such data and research have been posted to this very thread by several people), you ignore it, and scream at the top of your arrogant lungs that it doesn't exist.

And if there is enough to win a criminal case, why hasn't one been filed?

Many have, they generally get tossed on technicalities, just like all the election lawsuits. Or, do you think the election was totally legit, too? And there's no corruption in the justice system?