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What an interesting post. I've not read through all of the comments - hope I can get back with some time to read through. But, for brevity, I'd like to share a few thoughts on the back of reading some of the discussion. How to frame properly this OP and the issue it addresses?

One, hate the sin and love the sinner. While I believe that same sex attraction is a distortion, a result of a spiritual corruption in human nature, that doesn't mean I should not love and value God's children who are subject to that corruption.

And, when I say corruption, I say this as a remark on the general state of humanity, not the individual. There are those who experience same-sex attraction, and who do not want it. There are those who experience it as a result of abuse in their lives. There are many causes, and it's not simply as if the individual who experiences same sex attraction is responsible for that condition.

Yes, there are those who give themselves over to that attraction, by which I mean, they indulge in it, and increase it, and behave in degenerate ways. I'm not talking about the same-sex attraction individual who lives a monogamous life and tries to be morally upstanding in their personal integrity. That doesn't make homosexual behavior right, but then, who is perfect in their behavior? So, hate (reject) the sin, but love the sinner.

My personal belief is that the problem of same-sex attraction derives ultimately from the influence of fallen angels over humanity (see scriptural reference #1 below ), and will ultimately be resolved on a collective level when humanity is restored to our original relationship with God, and thus also with the angels, after the return of Christ.

Two, the LGBTQI agenda has nothing to do with loving the sinner. It is a satanic agenda, using sexual immorality to corrupt human beings and short-circuit our capacity to unite with God. God cannot accept and interact with sinful nature, and sexual immorality lies at the very foundation of the human sin.

Sexual union between his son and daughter was the greatest blessing God wanted to bestow on his children. By being united in ecstatic, true unselfish love, God's purpose was for one son and one daughter to be bound together in that experience (Scrip. Ref #2). Not only that, when a man and woman become completely one in true love, they fully resemble the union of God's own nature, and so that's where humans were to be bonded to God, as well. Love, binding God his son and his daughter, all as the starting point for a new life, and new child of God. Sacred beyond words.

Think about it. Why is the experience of sexual union between a man and a woman in love so often expressed in the Bible in this two metaphors: One - "knowing" and two - eating a fruit?

Is it a coincidence that the fall of Adam and Eve is described as "the eating of a fruit" and the fruit in question is "the fruit of knowledge"? Not a coincidence.

The LGBTQI agenda does what every other agenda by the Devil, by the corrupt and evil elite, does: it seduces those it pretends to serve, and aid, but without any intent to truly serve, or aid. When the goal is achieved, that pretence is thrown off, and the instrument(s) of that objective are cast aside. This is the point the OP is experiencing, but many of us knew a long time ago that this would be the case.

In true satanic fashion, many compassionate people have been seduced by the LGBTQI agenda: those who could see the pain and suffering that same-sex attracted people experienced and took pity on their fellow man and woman; those who are same-sex attracted, and who try to find some reconciliation of the inner conflict or conflict with society resulting from their inner experience, and who looked to being accepted or treated as valuable (as all God's children are) as a way to resolve any difficulty or inner conflict.

All people with integrity try to find some way to resolve the issues that same-sex attraction and homosexual behavior, etc, give rise to. We might say live and let live; I'll respect your right to live how you choose as long as you respect mine. We might say, I need to declare that your behavior is sinful, regardless of how this makes you feel. And so forth.

As I stated above, personally, I believe this issue will only be resolved over time as collectively, humanity is restored to our original relationship with the Creator.

But until then, it's critical to distinguish between the experiences and lives of individuals that experience same-sex attraction on the one hand, and the political, ideological and satanic agenda that the LGBTQI actually is on the other. We can practice love and acceptance towards the former, but we cannot practice acceptance or love towards the latter. Why?

Because it is NOT a movement to help, aid or comfort those individuals. It's a movement designed in hell, pursued politically and culturally, to twist the power of culture and government to destroy the family, the true relationship between men and women, and the human capacity to connect with God through aligning with God's commandments, and it doesn;t care if it destroys anyone, including same-sex attracted or homosexuals/lesbians, even trans, along the way.

The OP doesn't quite realize this second point, and simply now thinks, they went too far. Those who know the origin and intended destination of this 'movement of the Left' know very clearly, that they were ALWAYS going to push it to it's ultimate destination.

But the more that those who live with Same-Sex Attraction and/or who practice homosexuality, realize this, and the more that the seduced "compassionate" people who were sucked in by the Lie understand this, the better off they and the rest of us will be.

Sexual immorality is the oldest sin, and the hardest to root out. But nothing can stop what is coming.

NOTE: On the ideological origins of the LGBTQI agenda:

The Roots of Cultural Marxism - The Architects of Western Decline

https://rumble.com/vhlbrt-the-roots-of-cultural-marxism-the-architects-of-western-decline.html


#1: Jude 1: 6-7 "And the angels who did not stay within their own position of authority, but left their proper dwelling, he has kept in eternal chains under gloomy darkness until the judgment of the great day just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire"

#2: Gen 2:24 "Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh"

1 year ago
4 score
Reason: None provided.

What an interesting post. I've not read through all of the comments - hope I can get back with some time to read through. But, for brevity, I'd like to share a few thoughts on the back of reading some of the discussion. How to frame properly this OP and the issue it addresses?

One, hate the sin and love the sinner. While I believe that same sex attraction is a distortion, a result of a spiritual corruption in human nature, that doesn't mean I should not love and value God's children who are subject to that corruption.

And, when I say corruption, I say this as a remark on the general state of humanity, not the individual. There are those who experience same-sex attraction, and who do not want it. There are those who experience it as a result of abuse in their lives. There are many causes, and it's not simply as if the individual who experiences same sex attraction is responsible for that condition.

Yes, there are those who give themselves over to that attraction, by which I mean, they indulge in it, and increase it, and behave in degenerate ways. I'm not talking about the same-sex attraction individual who lives a monogamous life and tries to be morally upstanding in their personal integrity. That doesn't make homosexual behavior right, but then, who is perfect in their behavior? So, hate (reject) the sin, but love the sinner.

My personal belief is that the problem of same-sex attraction derives ultimately from the influence of fallen angels over humanity (see scriptural reference #1 below ), and will ultimately be resolved on a collective level when humanity is restored to our original relationship with God, and thus also with the angels, after the return of Christ.

Two, the LGBTQI agenda has nothing to do with loving the sinner. It is a satanic agenda, using sexual immorality to corrupt human beings and short-circuit our capacity to unite with God. God cannot accept and interact with sinful nature, and sexual immorality lies at the very foundation of the human sin.

Sexual union between his son and daughter was the greatest blessing God wanted to bestow on his children. By being united in ecstatic, true unselfish love, God's purpose was for one son and one daughter to be bound together in that experience (Scrip. Ref #2). Not only that, when a man and woman become completely one in true love, they fully resemble the union of God's own nature, and so that's where humans were to be bonded to God, as well. Love, binding God his son and his daughter, all as the starting point for a new life, and new child of God. Sacred beyond words.

Think about it. Why is the experience of sexual union between a man and a woman in love so often expressed in the Bible in this two metaphors: One - "knowing" and two - eating a fruit?

Is it a coincidence that the fall of Adam and Eve is described as "the eating of a fruit" and the fruit in question is "the fruit of knowledge"? Not a coincidence.

The LGBTQI agenda does what every other agenda by the Devil, by the corrupt and evil elite, does: it seduces those it pretends to serve, and aid, but without any intent to truly serve, or aid. When the goal is achieved, that pretence is thrown off, and the instrument(s) of that objective are cast aside. This is the point the OP is experiencing, but many of us knew a long time ago that this would be the case.

In true satanic fashion, many compassionate people have been seduced by the LGBTQI agenda: those who could see the pain and suffering that same-sex attracted people experienced and took pity on their fellow man and woman; those who are same-sex attracted, and who try to find some reconciliation of the inner conflict or conflict with society resulting from their inner experience, and who looked to being accepted or treated as valuable (as all God's children are) as a way to resolve any difficulty or inner conflict.

All people with integrity try to find some way to resolve the issues that same-sex attraction and homosexual behavior, etc, give rise to. We might say live and let live; I'll respect your right to live how you choose as long as you respect mine. We might say, I need to declare that your behavior is sinful, regardless of how this makes you feel. And so forth.

As I stated above, personally, I believe this issue will only be resolved over time as collectively, humanity is restored to our original relationship with the Creator.

But until then, it's critical to distinguish between the experiences and lives of individuals that experience same-sex attraction on the one hand, and the political, ideological and satanic agenda that the LGBTQI actually is on the other. We can practice love and acceptance towards the former, but we cannot practice acceptance or love towards the latter. Why?

Because it is NOT a movement to help, aid or comfort those individuals. It's a movement designed in hell, pursued politically and culturally, to twist the power of culture and government to destroy the family, the true relationship between men and women, and the human capacity to connect with God through aligning with God's commandments, and it doesn;t care if it destroys anyone, including same-sex attracted or homosexuals/lesbians, even trans, along the way.

The OP doesn't quite realize this second point, and simply now thinks, they went too far. Those who know the origin and intended destination of this 'movement of the Left' know very clearly, that they were ALWAYS going to push it to it's ultimate destination.

But the more that those who live with Same-Sex Attraction and/or who practice homosexuality, realize this, and the more that the seduced "compassionate" people who were sucked in by the Lie understand this, the better of they and the rest of us will be.

Sexual immorality is the oldest sin, and the hardest to root out. But nothing can stop what is coming.

NOTE: On the ideological origins of the LGBTQI agenda:

The Roots of Cultural Marxism - The Architects of Western Decline

https://rumble.com/vhlbrt-the-roots-of-cultural-marxism-the-architects-of-western-decline.html


#1: Jude 1: 6-7 "And the angels who did not stay within their own position of authority, but left their proper dwelling, he has kept in eternal chains under gloomy darkness until the judgment of the great day just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire"

#2: Gen 2:24 "Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh"

1 year ago
4 score
Reason: None provided.

What an interesting post. I've not read through all of the comments - hope I can get back with some time to read through. But, for brevity, I'd like to share a few thoughts on the back of reading some of the discussion. How to frame properly this OP and the issue it addresses?

One, hate the sin and love the sinner. While I believe that same sex attraction is a distortion, a result of a spiritual corruption in human nature, that doesn't mean I should not love and value God's children who are subject to that corruption.

And, when I say corruption, I say this as a remark on the general state of humanity, not the individual. There are those who experience same-sex attraction, and who do not want it. There are those who experience it as a result of abuse in their lives. There are many causes, and it's not simply as if the individual who experiences same sex attraction is responsible for that condition.

Yes, there are those who give themselves over to that attraction, by which I mean, they indulge in it, and increase it, and behave in degenerate ways. I'm not talking about the same-sex attraction individual who lives a monogamous life and tries to be morally upstanding in their personal integrity. That doesn't make homosexual behavior right, but then, who is perfect in their behavior? So, hate (reject) the sin, but love the sinner.

My personal belief is that the problem of same-sex attraction derives ultimately from the influence of fallen angels over humanity (see scriptural reference #1 below ), and will ultimately be resolved on a collective level when humanity is restored to our original relationship with God, and thus also with the angels, after the return of Christ.

Two, the LGBTQI agenda has nothing to do with loving the sinner. It is a satanic agenda, using sexual immorality to corrupt human beings and short-circuit our capacity to unite with God. God cannot accept and interact with sinful nature, and sexual immorality lies at the very foundation of the human sin.

Sexual union between his son and daughter was the greatest blessing God wanted to bestow on his children. By being united in ecstatic, true unselfish love, God's purpose was for one son and one daughter to be bound together in that experience (Scrip. Ref #2). Not only that, when a man and woman become completely one in true love, they fully resemble the union of God's own nature, and so that's where humans were to be bonded to God, as well. Love, binding God his son and his daughter, all as the starting point for a new life, and new child of God. Sacred beyond words.

Think about it. Why is the experience of sexual union between a man and a woman in love so often expressed in the Bible in this two metaphors: One - "knowing" and two - eating a fruit?

Is it a coincidence that the fall of Adam and Eve is described as "the eating of a fruit" and the fruit in question is "the fruit of knowledge"? Not a coincidence.

The LGBTQI agenda does what every other agenda by the Devil, by the corrupt and evil elite, does: it seduces those it pretends to serve, and aid, but without any intent to truly serve, or aid. When the goal is achieved, that pretence is thrown off, and the instrument(s) of that objective are cast aside. This is the point the OP is experiencing, but many of us knew a long time ago that this would be the case.

In true satanic fashion, many compassionate people have been seduced by the LGBTQI agenda: those who could see the pain and suffering that same-sex attracted people experienced and took pity on their fellow man and woman; those who are same-sex attracted, and who try to find some reconciliation of the inner conflict or conflict with society resulting from their inner experience, and who looked to being accepted or treated as valuable (as all God's children are) as a way to resolve any difficulty or inner conflict.

All people with integrity try to find some way to resolve the issues that same-sex attraction and homosexual behavior, etc, give rise to. We might say live and let live; I'll respect your right to live how you choose as long as you respect mine. We might say, I need to declare that your behavior is sinful, regardless of how this makes you feel. And so forth.

As I stated above, personally, I believe this issue will only be resolved over time as collectively, humanity is restored to our original relationship with the Creator.

But until then, it's critical to distinguish between the experiences and lives of individuals that experience same-sex attraction and the political, ideological and satanic agenda that the LGBTQI actually is. We can practice love towards the former. We cannot practrice acceptance or love towards the latter. Why?

Because it is NOT a movement to help, aid or comfort those individuals. It's a movement designed in hell, pursued politically and culturally, to twist the power of culture and government to destroy the family, the true relationship between men and women, and the human capacity to connect with God through aligning with God's commandments, and it doesn;t care if it destroys anyone, including same-sex attracted or homosexuals/lesbians, even trans, along the way.

The OP doesn't quite realize this second point, and simply now thinks, they went too far. Those who know the origin and intended destination of this 'movement of the Left' know very clearly, that they were ALWAYS going to push it to it's ultimate destination.

But the more that those who live with Same-Sex Attraction and/or who practice homosexuality, realize this, and the more that the seduced "compassionate" people who were sucked in by the Lie understand this, the better of they and the rest of us will be.

Sexual immorality is the oldest sin, and the hardest to root out. But nothing can stop what is coming.

NOTE: On the ideological origins of the LGBTQI agenda:

The Roots of Cultural Marxism - The Architects of Western Decline

https://rumble.com/vhlbrt-the-roots-of-cultural-marxism-the-architects-of-western-decline.html


#1: Jude 1: 6-7 "And the angels who did not stay within their own position of authority, but left their proper dwelling, he has kept in eternal chains under gloomy darkness until the judgment of the great day just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire"

#2: Gen 2:24 "Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh"

1 year ago
4 score
Reason: Original

What an interesting post. I've not read through all of the comments - hope I can get back with some time to read through. But, for brevity, I'd like to share a few thoughts on the back of reading some of the discussion. How to frame properly this OP and the issue it addresses?

One, hate the sin and love the sinner. While I believe that same sex attraction is a distortion, a result of a spiritual corruption in human nature, that doesn't mean I should not love and value God's children who are subject to that corruption.

And, when I say corruption, I say this as a remark on the general state of humanity, not the individual. There are those who experience same-sex attraction, and who do not want it. There are those who experience it as a result of abuse in their lives. There are many causes, and it's not simply as if the individual who experiences same sex attraction is responsible for that condition.

Yes, there are those who give themselves over to that attraction, by which I mean, they indulge in it, and increase it, and behave in degenerate ways. I'm not talking about the same-sex attraction individual who lives a monogamous life and tries to be morally upstanding in their personal integrity. That doesn't make homosexual behavior right, but then, who is perfect in their behavior? So, hate (reject) the sin, but love the sinner.

My personal belief is that the problem of same-sex attraction derives ultimately from the influence of fallen angels over humanity (see scriptural reference #1 below ), and will ultimately be resolved on a collective level when humanity is restored to our original relationship with God, and thus also with the angels, after the return of Christ.

Two, the LGBTQI agenda has nothing to do with loving the sinner. It is a satanic agenda, using sexual immorality to corrupt human beings and short-circuit our capacity to unite with God. God cannot accept and interact with sinful nature, and sexual immorality lies at the very foundation of the human sin.

Sexual union between his son and daughter was the greatest blessing God wanted to bestow on his children. By being united in ecstatic, true unselfish love, God's purpose was for one son and one daughter to be bound together in that experience (Scrip. Ref #2). Not only that, when a man and woman become completely one in true love, they fully resemble the union of God's own nature, and so that's where humans were to be bonded to God, as well. Love, binding God his son and his daughter, all as the starting point for a new life, and new child of God. Sacred beyond words.

Think about it. Why is the experience of sexual union between a man and a woman in love so often expressed in the Bible in this two metaphors: One - "knowing" and two - eating a fruit?

Is it a coincidence that the fall of Adam and Eve is described as "the eating of a fruit" and the fruit in question is "the fruit of knowledge"? Not a coincidence.

The LGBTQI agenda does what every other agenda by the Devil, by the corrupt and evil elite, does: it seduces those it pretends to serve, and aid, but without any intent to truly serve, or aid. When the goal is achieved, that pretence is thrown off, and the instrument(s) of that objective are cast aside. This is the point the OP is experiencing, but many of us knew a long time ago that this would be the case.

In true satanic fashion, many compassionate people have been seduced by the LGBTQI agenda: those who could see the pain and suffering that same-sex attracted people experienced and took pity on their fellow man and woman; those who are same-sex attracted, and who try to find some reconciliation of the inner conflict or conflict with society resulting from their inner experience, and who looked to being accepted or treated as valuable (as all God's children are) as a way to resolve any difficulty or inner conflict.

All people with integrity try to find some way to resolve the issues that same-sex attraction and homosexual behavior, etc, give rise to. We might say live and let live; I'll respect your right to live how you choose as long as you respect mine. We might say, I need to declare that your behavior is sinful, regardless of how this makes you feel. And so forth.

As I stated above, personally, I believe this issue will only be resolved over time as collectively, humanity is restored to our original relationship with the Creator.

But until then, it's critical to distinguish between the experiences and lives of individuals that same-sex attraction affects, and the political, ideological and satanic agenda that the LGBTQI actually is. We can practice love towards the former. We cannot practrice acceptance or love towards the latter. Why?

Because it is NOT a movement to help, aid or comfort those individuals. It's a movement designed in hell, pursued politically and culturally, to twist the power of culture and government to destroy the family, the true relationship between men and women, and the human capacity to connect with God through aligning with God's commandments, and it doesn;t care if it destroys anyone, including same-sex attracted or homosexuals/lesbians, even trans, along the way.

The OP doesn't quite realize this second point, and simply now thinks, they went too far. Those who know the origin and intended destination of this 'movement of the Left' know very clearly, that they were ALWAYS going to push it to it's ultimate destination.

But the more that those who live with Same-Sex Attraction and/or who practice homosexuality, realize this, and the more that the seduced "compassionate" people who were sucked in by the Lie understand this, the better of they and the rest of us will be.

Sexual immorality is the oldest sin, and the hardest to root out. But nothing can stop what is coming.

NOTE: On the ideological origins of the LGBTQI agenda:

The Roots of Cultural Marxism - The Architects of Western Decline

https://rumble.com/vhlbrt-the-roots-of-cultural-marxism-the-architects-of-western-decline.html


#1: Jude 1: 6-7 "And the angels who did not stay within their own position of authority, but left their proper dwelling, he has kept in eternal chains under gloomy darkness until the judgment of the great day just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire"

#2: Gen 2:24 "Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh"

1 year ago
1 score