He is very convincing! I like him. I am leaning towards viruses existing but we can't yet isolate them and their creation is from cell breakdown. I do think we can transmit viruses. let's have fun debating.

• " Versuses don't cause the disease they are just trash." To discredit this:
• Bayer shipped a bunch of HIV-contaminated aspirin to China which then cause a large number of people in China to then get HIV. If it's just trash and doesn't cause disease, please explain how they got infected with HIV.
• I don't want semantics. Like, as "Viruses are contaminants." therefore the pills were contaminants, which infected people and got them HIV. Well, viruses are contaminants.
• If you are saying viruses are not RNA/DNA but something else, then maybe you could be right but it doesn't really change anything does it?
• There is something that spreads from person to person, and each of these people has this same "trash" that those without symptoms do not have, you can then take this "trash" and infect others.

• The main argument is that it's never been isolated. So I have a question on logic, if you can't isolate something does that mean it doesn't exist? For example, you can't separate the killer from a room of people wearing masks and furniture, and other debris. You cant see the killer kill anyone (stabbing) but people keep dying, you look at several locations and rooms and environments, and each time, you can move a couple of people from the kill room to another room. Each time there is someone who dies from a stabbing but the rooms that kill people are all historically stemming from the original kill room. They know then that the killer is in a specific room just not exactly who is the killer. But the killer does exist.

• He admits viruses exist @ 23:35 Bacteriophages
• He admits viruses exist @ 24:20 Giant viruses

• It's highly possible that the creation of a virus is trash or breakdown of cells and bacteria as he describes. But that just gives the origin of viruses not disputes their existence.

• The way people "isolate" or create "vaccines" is bad, I agree, I'm not even gonna pretend that works.

I am leaning towards viruses exist but we cant yet isolate them. let's have fun debating.

• " Versuses don't cause the disease they are just trash." To discredit this:
• Bayer shipped a bunch of HIV-contaminated aspirin to China which then cause a large number of people in China to then get HIV. If it's just trash and doesn't cause disease, please explain how they got infected with HIV.
• I don't want semantics. Like, as "Viruses are contaminants." therefore the pills were contaminants, which infected people and got them HIV. Well, viruses are contaminants.
• If you are saying viruses are not RNA/DNA but something else, then maybe you could be right but it doesn't really change anything does it?
• There is something that spreads from person to person, and each of these people has this same "trash" that those without symptoms do not have, you can then take this "trash" and infect others.

• The main argument is that it's never been isolated. So I have a question on logic, if you can't isolate something does that mean it doesn't exist? For example, you can't separate the killer from a room of people wearing masks and furniture, and other debris. You cant see the killer kill anyone (stabbing) but people keep dying, you look at several locations and rooms and environments, and each time, you can move a couple of people from the kill room to another room. Each time there is someone who dies from a stabbing but the rooms that kill people are all historically stemming from the original kill room. They know then that the killer is in a specific room just not exactly who is the killer. But the killer does exist.

• He admits viruses exist @ 23:35 Bacteriophages
• He admits viruses exist @ 24:20 Giant viruses

• It's highly possible that the creation of a virus is trash or breakdown of cells and bacteria as he describes. But that just gives the origin of viruses not disputes their existence.

• The way people "isolate" or create "vaccines" is bad, I agree, I'm not even gonna pretend that works.