Thanks for the comment! Updoodle.

Cannot comment on the electronic voting thing. Haven't been tracking it very closely.

... huge presumption that you make - that military stepping in to the Brazil elections will start shifting normie minds.

I think that's a fair comment. It is an assumption, but perhaps I can tweak it a bit.

My thought is NOT that election interference/manipulation being corrected (whether by military or other means) will massively shift normie minds. Rather, the idea is that if you set a number of precedents, something that once seemed inconceivable then becomes conceivable.

Example: it was no doubt inconceivable to many in 2019 that our own governments would begin treating citizens like cattle and our freedoms like disposable rags. That's changed. Regardless of how many people became truly awake (even though I think the numbers are much greater than they may seem) the point is, if and when the govt begins to act as a despotic idiot again, well, no one is going to say (that's not going to happen).

So, hope that makes sense. I'm not saying (even in speculation) that the election being overturned in Brazil (if it is) will trigger a mass awakening. Rather, what it would do is at least make the idea that elections can be rigged, and fixed, something that is not a completely foreign concept.

If anything, i think that mass awakening will take place AFTER the power balance has been shifted. Eg. if (and when) Maga republicans take control of the two houses, THEN more and more things can and will be revealed, triggering awakening. IF and WHEN Trump resumes the Presidency, then the work following that will trigger even greater awakening.

It takes a lot to wake people out of trance if they are unaware they are in it. There is a process involved.

I agree with your comment about normies being capable of reviewing actual evidence if presented in the right way (aka easy to understand format). However, that is really contingent on their psychological state of being. If someone firmly believes the Pope is incapable of sin or wrong-doing, all their life, and also is an economist with academic training, he may very well be able to accept or review data surrounding why certain economic policies are a bad idea (even if he has never thought about it before), but if presented with even simple evidence that the Pope is the head of an evil clique, that may well not be able to penetrate the barriers of predisposed biases, or overcome the threat of an existential crisis that occurs when something you believed in all your life is challenged as false.

I think you make some really good points about how the Nov 3 data and information has or has not been collated, presented etc, but I also think there is the mental barrier of many people simply thinking "no way. How could that be?"

Your comment about "proof in normie-speak" comes across as quite persuasive. Thanks for the intelligent comment with interesting counterpoints.

Thanks for the comment! Updoodle.

Cannot comment on the electronic voting thing. Haven't been tracking it very closely.

... huge presumption that you make - that military stepping in to the Brazil elections will start shifting normie minds.

I think that's a fair comment. It is an assumption, but perhaps I can tweak it a bit.

My thought is NOT that election interference/manipulation being corrected (whether by military or other means) will massively shift normie minds. Rather, the idea is that if you set a number of precedents, something that once seemed inconceivable then becomes conceivable.

Example: it was no doubt inconceivable to many in 2019 that our own governments would begin treating citizens like cattle and our freedoms like disposable rags. That's changed. Regardless of how many people became truly awake (even though I think the numbers are much greater than they may seem) the point is, if and when the govt begins to act as a despotic idiot again, well, no one is going to say (that's not going to happen).

So, hope that makes sense. I'm not saying (even in speculation) that the election being overturned in Brazil (if it is) will trigger a mass awakening. Rather, what it would do is at least make the idea that elections can be rigged, and fixed, something that is not a completely foreign concept.

If anything, i think that mass awakening will take place AFTER the power balance has been shifted. Eg. if (and when) Maga republicans take control of the two houses, THEN more and more things can and will be revealed, triggering awakening. IF and WHEN Trump resumes the Presidency, then the work following that will trigger even greater awakening.

It takes a lot to wake people out of trance if they are unaware they are in it. There is a process involved.

I agree with your comment about normies being capable of reviewing actual evidence if presented in the right way (aka easy to understand format). However, that is really contingent on their psychological state of being. If someone firmly believes the Pope is incapable of sin or wrong-doing, all their life, and also is an economist with academic training, he may very well be able to accept or review data surrounding why certain economic policies are a bad idea (even if he has never thought about it before), but if presented with even simple evidence that the Pope is the head of an evil clique, that may well not be able to penetrate the barriers of predisposed biases, or overcome the threat of an existential crisis if and when the thing you believed in all your life is challenged s false.

I think your make some really good points about how the Nov 3 data and information has or has not been collated, presented etc, but I also think there is the mental barrier of many people simply thinking "no way. How could that be?"

Your comment about "proof in normie-speak" comes across as quite persuasive. Thanks for the intelligent comment with interesting counterpoints.