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So I did that...

David gave a particularly interesting example that I'd like to comment on:

He stated that due to the distance to and from stars as presented by the standard model that a star would not be bright enough to reach earth.

He insisted that it was a mathematical fact that the nearest star would not be visible at the distances that astronomers suggest.

So I checked because I'm an instrumentation and controls engineer and measuring light is something I do.

So a human eye can see a candle from 1.6 miles away and a candle gives off ~12 lumens of light.

Luminosity is measured from 2 feet away and a mile is 5280 feet. 1.6 miles is 8448 feet. So a human can see a canle in the night from 8448 feet away through atmosphere at see level. At that distance the luminosity from the candle is 13^(1/log2(8448)) - 1 = 0.21 lumens

now the sun is 35,730,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 lumens according to astronomical estimations based on the amount of light hitting earth. So how far would the sun have to be in order to be an equvalent brightness to a candle, through atmosphere at sea level?

Let's do math, we can reverse the formula with the approprate variables 35,730,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,001^(1/log2(x))-1 = 0.021 x = 6.707 x 10^103 feet That's 1.27 x 10 ^ 100 miles

the speed of light is 1.86 x 10^5 miles per second (1 light second) or 5.88 x 10^9 miles per year (1 light year)

1.27 X 10^100 / 5.88 x 10^9 = 2.16 x 10^90

That means that the sun will be apparantly brighter than a candle out to a distance of 2.16 x 10^90 light years.

Modern cosmology says the nearest star is only 5 light years away Modern cosmology says the nearest galaxy is only 2.5 X 10^5 light years away Modern cosmology says the amount of universe we can see with our telescopes so far only reaches out to 4.86 X 10^10 light years.

The sun will be appear to be brighter than a candle for a distance greater than the total distance light could have travelled since it's birth.

The sun will be brighter than a candle for so long that 10 new stars will live and die using material from the sun before that light thins enough to be outdone by a candle.

David doesn't do math.

He insists and that's about it.

1 year ago
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So I did that...

David gave a particularly interesting example that I'd like to comment on:

He stated that due to the distance to and from stars as presented by the standard model that a star would not be bright enough to reach earth.

He insisted that it was a mathematical fact that the nearest star would not be visible at the distances that astronomers suggest.

So I checked because I'm an instrumentation and controls engineer and measuring light is something I do.

So a human eye can see a candle from 1.6 miles away and a candle gives off ~12 lumens of light.

Luminosity is measured from 2 feet away and a foot is 5280 miles. 1.6 miles is 8448 feet. So a human can see a canle in the night from 8448 feet away through atmosphere at see level. At that distance the luminosity from the candle is 13^(1/log2(8448)) - 1 = 0.21 lumens

now the sun is 35,730,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 lumens according to astronomical estimations based on the amount of light hitting earth. So how far would the sun have to be in order to be an equvalent brightness to a candle, through atmosphere at sea level?

Let's do math, we can reverse the formula with the approprate variables 35,730,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,001^(1/log2(x))-1 = 0.021 x = 6.707 x 10^103 feet That's 1.27 x 10 ^ 100 miles

the speed of light is 1.86 x 10^5 miles per second (1 light second) or 5.88 x 10^9 miles per year (1 light year)

1.27 X 10^100 / 5.88 x 10^9 = 2.16 x 10^90

That means that the sun will be apparantly brighter than a candle out to a distance of 2.16 x 10^90 light years.

Modern cosmology says the nearest star is only 5 light years away Modern cosmology says the nearest galaxy is only 2.5 X 10^5 light years away Modern cosmology says the amount of universe we can see with our telescopes so far only reaches out to 4.86 X 10^10 light years.

The sun will be appear to be brighter than a candle for a distance greater than the total distance light could have travelled since it's birth.

The sun will be brighter than a candle for so long that 10 new stars will live and die using material from the sun before that light thins enough to be outdone by a candle.

David doesn't do math.

He insists and that's about it.

1 year ago
1 score