Money = Gold/Silver = Dollar = receipt for services goods rendered. => no debt.

People who know what the word "money" means generally don't need it to be elaborated.

People who don't know what the word "money" means are, I have found, better shocked into an understanding of what "money" means to the PTB when it is shown that "money" (in the vernacular) IS debt. Elaborating what the word "money" means is a topic, I have found, better left for other discussions or at another time within the discussion, like in the "solution" section of such a discussion.

I've found it really isn't all that desirable to elaborate however, because money, as you mean it, is, I suggest, also a fraud, designed to create a single point of contact for all exchange transactions. Such a single point creates a vulnerability. That vulnerability was, I believe, created on purpose to be exploited by hoarding. If you own all the gold (or all the gold and silver), it makes sense you would want everyone to use your "precious metals" as an intermediary of exchange for barter if you wanted to control an economic system, and thus guide society in the direction you intended, rather than let them be free to choose their own direction. Intentional or not, it has always been exploited (always), and thus needs to be decommissioned as an economic idea. Any such SPOC is destined to be hoarded. It can't be stopped.

The same vulnerabilities exist in a bi-metal standard, except that's even worse because it ties two metals together, and the concept of a Free Market (supply/demand determines value) is subverted. Bi-metal also doesn't solve the hoarding problem. A "DPOC" is almost as vulnerable as a SPOC, and as has been seen, if you own all the gold, hoarding silver as well is trivially accomplished. Indeed, silver is more vulnerable precisely because more people will need it (because they can't afford gold). (See the economic cause of the fall of the Western Roman Empire.)

I insist we must create a Free Market. A Free Market can't exist if all transactions are funneled through a single (or dual) vulnerable point, or if Supply/Demand isn't the driving factor for the entire thing. I suggest we should move to a system that is completely decentralized. A system as close to true barter as can reasonably be accomplished. People need to learn the value of things, and learn how to barter. It's just one of those life skills we need to remember from our distant past.

Not to suggest we go full hog. We don't have to get rid of silver and gold as a store of value, but relying on it (by enforcing, or even strongly encouraging it's use as intermediary) creates an inevitable vulnerability that will be exploited and can't be helped. See other posts of mine in this thread for elaboration on what such a system might look like.

Money = Gold/Silver = Dollar = receipt for services goods rendered. => no debt.

People who know what the word "money" means generally don't need it to be elaborated.

People who don't know what the word "money" means are, I have found, better shocked into an understanding of what "money" means to the PTB when it is shown that "money" (in the vernacular) IS debt. Elaborating what the word "money" means is a topic, I have found, better left for other discussions or at another time within the discussion, like in the "solution" section of such a discussion.

I've found it really isn't all that desirable to elaborate however, because money, as you mean it, is, I suggest, also a fraud, designed to create a single point of contact for all exchange transactions. Such a single point creates a vulnerability. That vulnerability was, I believe, created on purpose to be exploited by hoarding. If you own all the gold (or all the gold and silver), it makes sense you would want everyone to use your "precious metals" as an intermediary of exchange for barter if you wanted to control an economic system, and thus guide society in the direction you intended, rather than let them be free to choose their own direction. Intentional or not, it has always been exploited (always), and thus needs to be decommissioned as an economic idea. Any such SPOC is destined to be hoarded. It can't be stopped.

The same vulnerabilities exist in a bi-metal standard, except that's even worse because it ties two metals together, and the concept of a Free Market (supply/demand determines value) is subverted. Bi-metal also doesn't solve the hoarding problem. A "DPOC" is almost as vulnerable as a SPOC, and as has been seen, if you own all the gold, hoarding silver as well is trivially accomplished. Indeed, silver is more vulnerable precisely because more people will need it (because they can't afford gold). (See the economic cause of the fall of the Western Roman Empire.)

I insist we must create a Free Market. A Free Market can't exist if all transactions are funneled through a single (or dual) vulnerable point, or if Supply/Demand isn't the driving factor for the entire thing. We must move to a system that is completely decentralized. A system as close to true barter as can reasonably be accomplished. People need to learn the value of things, and learn how to barter. It's just one of those life skills we need to remember from our distant past.

Not to suggest we go full hog. We don't have to get rid of silver and gold as a store of value, but relying on it (by enforcing, or even strongly encouraging it's use as intermediary) creates an inevitable vulnerability that will be exploited and can't be helped. See other posts of mine in this thread for elaboration on what such a system might look like.

Money = Gold/Silver = Dollar = receipt for services goods rendered. => no debt.

People who know what the word "money" means generally don't need it to be elaborated.

People who don't know what the word "money" means are, I have found, better shocked into an understanding of what "money" means to the PTB when it is shown that "money" (in the vernacular) IS debt. Elaborating what the word "money" means is a topic, I have found, better left for other discussions or at another time within the discussion, like in the "solution" section of such a discussion.

I've found it really isn't all that desirable to elaborate however, because money, as you mean it, is, I suggest, also a fraud, designed to create a single point of contact for all exchange transactions. Such a single point creates a vulnerability. That vulnerability was, I believe, created on purpose to be exploited by hoarding. If you own all the gold (or all the gold and silver), it makes sense you would want everyone to use your "precious metals" as an intermediary of exchange for barter if you wanted to control an economic system, and thus guide society in the direction you intended, rather than let them be free to choose their own direction. Intentional or not, it has always been exploited (always), and thus needs to be decommissioned as an economic idea. Any such SPOC is destined to be hoarded. It can't be stopped.

The same vulnerabilities exist in a bi-metal standard, except that's even worse because it ties two metals together, and the concept of a Free Market (supply/demand determines value) is subverted. Bi-metal also doesn't solve the hoarding problem. A "DPOC" is almost as vulnerable as a SPOC, and as has been seen, is trivially accomplished. Indeed, silver is more vulnerable precisely because more people will need it (because they can't afford gold). (See the economic cause of the fall of the Western Roman Empire.)

I insist we must create a Free Market. A Free Market can't exist if all transactions are funneled through a single (or dual) vulnerable point, or if Supply/Demand isn't the driving factor for the entire thing. We must move to a system that is completely decentralized. A system as close to true barter as can reasonably be accomplished. People need to learn the value of things, and learn how to barter. It's just one of those life skills we need to remember from our distant past.

Not to suggest we go full hog. We don't have to get rid of silver and gold as a store of value, but relying on it (by enforcing, or even strongly encouraging it's use as intermediary) creates an inevitable vulnerability that will be exploited and can't be helped. See other posts of mine in this thread for elaboration on what such a system might look like.

Money = Gold/Silver = Dollar = receipt for services goods rendered. => no debt.

People who know what the word "money" means generally don't need it to be elaborated.

People who don't know what the word "money" means are, I have found, better shocked into an understanding of what "money" means to the PTB when it is shown that "money" (in the vernacular) IS debt. Elaborating what the word "money" means is a topic, I have found, better left for other discussions or at another time within the discussion, like in the "solution" section of such a discussion.

I've found it really isn't all that desirable to elaborate however, because money, as you mean it, is, I suggest, also a fraud, designed to create a single point of contact for all exchange transactions. Such a single point creates a vulnerability. That vulnerability was, I believe, created on purpose to be exploited (by hoarding). If you own all the gold (or all the gold and silver), it makes sense you would want everyone to use your "precious metals" as an intermediary of exchange for barter if you wanted to control an economic system, and thus guide society in the direction you intended, rather than let them be free to choose their own direction. Intentional or not, it has always been exploited (always), and thus needs to be decommissioned as an economic idea. Any such SPOC is destined to be hoarded. It can't be stopped.

The same vulnerabilities exist in a bi-metal standard, except that's even worse because it ties two metals together, and the concept of a Free Market (supply/demand determines value) is subverted. Bi-metal also doesn't solve the hoarding problem. A "DPOC" is almost as vulnerable as a SPOC, and as has been seen, is trivially accomplished. Indeed, silver is more vulnerable precisely because more people will need it (because they can't afford gold). (See the economic cause of the fall of the Western Roman Empire.)

I insist we must create a Free Market. A Free Market can't exist if all transactions are funneled through a single (or dual) vulnerable point, or if Supply/Demand isn't the driving factor for the entire thing. We must move to a system that is completely decentralized. A system as close to true barter as can reasonably be accomplished. People need to learn the value of things, and learn how to barter. It's just one of those life skills we need to remember from our distant past.

Not to suggest we go full hog. We don't have to get rid of silver and gold as a store of value, but relying on it (by enforcing, or even strongly encouraging it's use as intermediary) creates an inevitable vulnerability that will be exploited and can't be helped. See other posts of mine in this thread for elaboration on what such a system might look like.

Money = Gold/Silver = Dollar = receipt for services goods rendered. => no debt.

People who know what the word "money" means generally don't need it to be elaborated.

People who don't know what the word "money" means are, I have found, better shocked into an understanding of what "money" means to the PTB when it is shown that "money" (in the vernacular) IS debt. Elaborating what the word "money" means is a topic, I have found, better left for other discussions or at another time within the discussion, like in the "solution" section of such a discussion.

I've found it really isn't all that desirable to elaborate however, because money, as you mean it, is, I suggest, also a fraud, designed to create a single point of contact for all exchange transactions. Such a single point creates a vulnerability. That vulnerability was, I believe, created on purpose to be exploited (by hoarding). If you own all the gold (or all the gold and silver), it makes sense you would want everyone to use your "precious metals" as an intermediary of exchange for barter if you wanted to control an economic system, and thus guide society in the direction you intended, rather than let them be free to choose their own direction. Intentional or not, it has always been exploited (always), and thus needs to be decommissioned as an economic idea. Any such SPOC is destined to be hoarded. It can't be stopped.

The same vulnerabilities exist in a bi-metal standard, except that's even worse because it ties two metals together, and the concept of a Free Market (supply/demand determines value) is subverted. Bi-metal also doesn't solve the hoarding problem. A "DPOC" is almost as vulnerable as a SPOC, and as has been seen, is trivially accomplished. Indeed, silver is more vulnerable precisely because more people will need it (because they can't afford gold). (See the economic cause of the fall of the Western Roman Empire.)

I insist we must create a Free Market. A Free Market can't exist if all transactions are funneled through a single (or dual) vulnerable point, or if Supply/Demand isn't the driving factor for the entire thing. We must move to a system that is completely decentralized. A system as close to true barter as can reasonably be accomplished. People need to learn the value of things, and learn how to barter. It's just one of those life skills we need to remember from our distant past.

Not to suggest we go full hog. See other posts of mine in this thread for elaboration on what such a system might look like.

Money = Gold/Silver = Dollar = receipt for services goods rendered. => no debt.

People who know what the word "money" means generally don't need it to be elaborated.

People who don't know what the word "money" means are, I have found, better shocked into an understanding of what "money" means to the PTB when it is shown that "money" (in the vernacular) IS debt. Elaborating what the word "money" means is a topic, I have found, better left for other discussions or at another time within the discussion, like in the "solution" section of such a discussion.

I've found it really isn't all that desirable to elaborate however, because money, as you mean it, is, I suggest, also a fraud, designed to create a single point of contact for all exchange transactions. Such a single point creates a vulnerability. That vulnerability was, I believe, created on purpose to be exploited (by hoarding). If you own all the gold (or all the gold and silver), it makes sense you would want everyone to use your "precious metals" as an intermediary of exchange for barter if you wanted to control an economic system, and thus guide society in the direction you intended, rather than let them be free to choose their own direction. Intentional or not, it has always been exploited (always), and thus needs to be decommissioned as an economic idea. Any such SPOC is destined to be hoarded. It can't be stopped.

The same vulnerabilities exist in a bi-metal standard, except that's even worse because it ties two metals together, and the concept of a Free Market (supply/demand determines value) is subverted. Bi-metal also doesn't solve the hoarding problem. A "DPOC" is almost as vulnerable as a SPOC, and as has been seen, is trivially accomplished. Indeed, silver is more vulnerable precisely because more people will need it (because they can't afford gold). (See the economic cause of the fall of the Western Roman Empire.)

I insist we must create a Free Market. A Free Market can't exist if all transactions are funneled through a single vulnerable point, or if Supply/Demand isn't the driving factor for the entire thing. We must move to a system that is completely decentralized. A system as close to true barter as can reasonably be accomplished. People need to learn the value of things, and learn how to barter. It's just one of those life skills we need to remember from our distant past.

Not to suggest we go full hog. See other posts of mine in this thread for elaboration on what such a system might look like.

Money = Gold/Silver = Dollar = receipt for services goods rendered. => no debt.

People who know what the word "money" means generally don't need it to be elaborated.

People who don't know what the word "money" means are, I have found, better shocked into an understanding of what "money" means to the PTB when it is shown that "money" (in the vernacular) IS debt. Elaborating what the word "money" means is a topic, I have found, better left for other discussions or at another time within the discussion, like in the "solution" section of such a discussion.

I've found it really isn't all that desirable to elaborate however, because money, as you mean it, is, I suggest, also a fraud, designed to create a single point of contact for all exchange transactions. Such a single point creates a vulnerability. That vulnerability was, I believe, created on purpose to be exploited (by hoarding, shaving, etc.). Intentional or not, it has always been exploited (always), and thus needs to be decommissioned as an economic idea. Any such SPOC is destined to be hoarded. It can't be stopped.

The same vulnerabilities exist in a bi-metal standard, except that's even worse because it ties two metals together, and the concept of a Free Market (supply/demand determines value) is subverted. Bi-metal also doesn't solve the hoarding problem. A "DPOC" is almost as vulnerable as a SPOC, and as has been seen, is trivially accomplished. Indeed, silver is more vulnerable precisely because more people will need it (because they can't afford gold). (See the economic cause of the fall of the Western Roman Empire.)

I insist we must create a Free Market. A Free Market can't exist if all transactions are funneled through a single vulnerable point, or if Supply/Demand isn't the driving factor for the entire thing. We must move to a system that is completely decentralized. A system as close to true barter as can reasonably be accomplished. People need to learn the value of things, and learn how to barter. It's just one of those life skills we need to remember from our distant past.

Not to suggest we go full hog. See other posts of mine in this thread for elaboration on what such a system might look like.

Money = Gold/Silver = Dollar = receipt for services goods rendered. => no debt.

People who know what the word "money" means generally don't need it to be elaborated.

People who don't know what the word "money" means are, I have found, better shocked into an understanding of what "money" means to the PTB when it is shown that "money" (in the vernacular) IS debt. Elaborating what the word "money" means is a topic, I have found, better left for other discussions or at another time within the discussion, like in the "solution" section of such a discussion.

I've found it really isn't all that desirable to elaborate however, because money, as you mean it, is, I suggest, also a fraud, designed to create a single point of contact for all exchange transactions. Such a single point creates a vulnerability. That vulnerability was, I believe, created on purpose to be exploited (by hoarding, shaving, etc.). Intentional or not, it has always been exploited (always), and thus needs to be decommissioned as an economic idea. Any such SPOC is destined to be hoarded. It can't be stopped.

The same vulnerabilities exist in a bi-metal standard, except that's even worse because it ties two metals together, and the concept of a Free Market (supply/demand determines value) is subverted. Bi-metal also doesn't solve the hoarding problem. A "DPOC" is almost as vulnerable as a SPOC, and as has been seen, is trivially accomplished. Indeed, silver is more vulnerable precisely because more people will need it (because they can't afford gold). (See the economic cause of the fall of the Western Roman Empire.)

I insist we must create a Free Market. A Free Market can't exist if all transactions are funneled through a single vulnerable point, or if Supply/Demand isn't the driving factor for the entire thing. We must move to a system that is completely decentralized. A system as close to true barter as can reasonably be accomplished. People need to learn the value of things, and learn how to barter. It's just one of those life skills we need to remember from our distant past.

Money = Gold/Silver = Dollar = receipt for services goods rendered. => no debt.

People who know what the word "money" means generally don't need it to be elaborated.

People who don't know what the word "money" means are, I have found, better shocked into an understanding of what "money" means to the PTB when it is shown that "money" (in the vernacular) IS debt. Elaborating what the word "money" means is a topic, I have found, better left for other discussions or at another time within the discussion, like in the "solution" section of such a discussion.

I've found it really isn't all that desirable to elaborate however, because money, as you mean it, is, I suggest, also a fraud, designed to create a single point of contact for all exchange transactions. Such a single point creates a vulnerability. That vulnerability was, I believe, created on purpose to be exploited (by hoarding, shaving, etc.). Intentional or not, it has always been exploited (always), and thus needs to be decommissioned as an economic idea. Any such SPOC is destined to be hoarded. It can't be stopped.

The same vulnerabilities exist in a bi-metal standard, except that's even worse because it ties two metals together, and the concept of a Free Market (supply/demand determines value) is subverted. Bi-metal also doesn't solve the hoarding problem. A "DPOC" is almost as vulnerable as a SPOC, and as has been seen, is trivially accomplished. Indeed, silver is more vulnerable precisely because more people will need it (because they can't afford gold). (See the economic cause of the fall of the Western Roman Empire.)

I insist we must create a Free Market. A Free Market can't exist if all transactions are funneled through a single vulnerable point, or if Supply/Demand isn't the driving factor for the entire thing.

Money = Gold/Silver = Dollar = receipt for services goods rendered. => no debt.

People who know what the word "money" means generally don't need it to be elaborated.

People who don't know what the word "money" means are, I have found, better shocked into an understanding of what "money" means to the PTB when it is shown that "money" (in the vernacular) IS debt. Elaborating what the word "money" means is a topic, I have found, better left for other discussions or at another time within the discussion, like in the "solution" section of such a discussion.

I've found it really isn't all that desirable to elaborate however, because money, as you mean it, is, I suggest, also a fraud, designed to create a single point of contact for all exchange transactions. Such a single point creates a vulnerability. That vulnerability was, I believe, created on purpose to be exploited (by hoarding, shaving, etc.). Intentional or not, it has always been exploited (always), and thus needs to be decommissioned as an economic idea. Any such SPOC is destined to be hoarded. It can't be stopped.

The same vulnerabilities exist in a bi-metal standard, except that's even worse because it ties two metals together, and the concept of a Free Market (supply/demand determines value) is subverted. Bi-metal also doesn't solve the hoarding problem, so it's really a non-starter for me.

I insist we must create a Free Market. A Free Market can't exist if all transactions are funneled through a single vulnerable point, or if Supply/Demand isn't the driving factor for the entire thing.

Money = Gold/Silver = Dollar = receipt for services goods rendered. => no debt.

People who know what the word "money" means generally don't need it to be elaborated.

People who don't know what the word "money" means are, I have found, better shocked into an understanding of what "money" means to the PTB when it is shown that "money" (in the vernacular) IS debt. Elaborating what the word "money" means is a topic, I have found, better left for other discussions or at another time within the discussion, like in the "solution" section of such a discussion.

I've found it really isn't all that desirable to elaborate however, because money, as you mean it, is, I suggest, also a fraud, designed to create a single point of contact for all exchange transactions. Such a single point creates a vulnerability. That vulnerability was, I believe, created on purpose to be exploited (by hoarding, shaving, etc.). Intentional or not, it has always been exploited (always), and thus needs to be decommissioned as an economic idea. Any such SPOC is destined to be hoarded. It can't be stopped.

The same vulnerabilities exist in a bi-metal standard, except that's even worse because it ties two metals together, and the concept of a Free Market (supply/demand determines value) is subverted.

I insist we must create a Free Market. A Free Market can't exist if all transactions are funneled through a single vulnerable point, or if Supply/Demand isn't the driving factor for the entire thing.