So legit question what proves that QAnon is actually real? I've not seen anything that Q has said come to pass. The month of the December will likely be no different. Or will it? Explain.
EDIT: Also, why are some of you saying there's no proof needed while others are trying your hardest to provide just that? Which is it?
I don't think it's far-fetched to say that a lot of what Q has said is either overtly vague and not worthwhile or false, so weighing him as an unreliable source is fair. Before we can even ascertain whether what he says is true or false though, he has not even provided reason to believe him in the first place. Credible sources establish credibility by being verified in what they are a source of.
I'm repeating what you are saying in that quote, not claiming that everyone who is skeptical of the MSM are Q followers. Nothing I said suggested that was the case, so that's an especially tangential argument. And while the MSM lies sometimes, it doesn't help to replace them with an alt-narrative: that's not thinking for yourself or rejecting the narrative, it's trading one narrative for another.
It's not that interesting that I want to use an example.
Seeing as Q is not a verified source in military intelligence, that doesn't seem a possibility at all. And of course people who don't believe Q wouldn't consider a military coup as an option. They especially wouldn't hold out hope for it, seeing as (I previously mentioned) Trump's legal team has failed time and again to procure evidence that the election was stolen. Screaming it from the rooftops does not make it so.
Then I guess the HCQ argument just comes down to whether you believe that Pharma companies and the government are credible or not. I still don't understand the argument though. If HCQ is profitable for businesses, why would they not try to get people on board with that?
Obviously businesses are trying to get profit from it, so again, if HCQ is unpatented, why are businesses not pouncing? If the FDA approves it, the media doesn't matter because public perception will flip immediately.
There's obviously a sort of aristocracy when it comes to the people at the top 1 percent, but I don't understand why you're trying to find Deep State in everything (based entirely on speculation). It seems like your default assumption is that the Deep State is involved when the opposite should be true
First of all, it's a bit disingenuous to assume the thing you intend to prove. That's called circular logic.
But what standard of reliability are you seeking here? I can exclude the obvious ones but what do you really expect out of Q? In my case, I don't think reliability involves the same things you do. Perhaps I just accept far more chaotic inputs than you do. Or perhaps I think I can sanitize information that you don't think you can. Or perhaps you are willfully choosing not to engage the information. Regardless.
The data that comes out of Q and what the "chans" dig up allows me a far broader perspective on information than willful ignorance of them permits. Nor am I compelled to blindly agree with them either. However, a mind that cannot accept perspectives different from one's own is closed and learns very little.
So, I weigh the value of Q or (more generally) the 'chans' is more in the diversity of opinion and providing potential interpretations that may correspond to reality. I don't think shutting down Nazis (and by God, there are actually Nazis there on those boards...) helps me understand why they think what they do or how anything they say might be meaningful to them. In understanding them I can choose to reject or accept what I find to be valid. So even the silly things people say can still be useful for making good, informed decisions. The problem with "cancel culture" is these varying opinions are shut out of the analysis and we're pigeonholed down one narrow corridor of thinking for our "overton window" analysis.
I don't learn from "clean room" perfectionism. I learn from reality which as not only 1s and 0s but also gradients, superpositions, entanglements, myths, legends, rumors and habits. Some more rational some less. All parts of a larger fractal of experience that I'm going to have to put into a coherent pattern but stuff I still need to be aware of when making such choices.
Fine, but let me focus it this way. The MSM claims to be the source of truth who may determine what we're allowed to think and their "fact checkers" claim anything they don't want to agree with is false. They are gatekeepers.
I don't take kindly to gatekeepers of information. I am not stupid. I am capable of making up my own mind without their censors.
Q doesn't claim to be a gatekeeper of truth. He says things and lets you decide whether you accept them. I find, on net, the MSM is doing far more damage to the truth than anything Q might be doing here. Why would someone providing me another alternative interpretation of information constitute harm? All it does is inform my ability to come to my own conclusion without being pigeonholed into one "narrative" or another. I'll read any narrative I damn well choose and make my own conclusions. Why should I limit myself only to things that the MSM or people like you choose to limit themselves to? I can make my own mind up.
So, really... what is Q doing that's so bad that you must raise questions to people following them?
Cheerleading Trump? Well, you've said you aren't against him so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
Claiming that the government is fighting against Trump? Really? You have a problem with THAT? 4 years of RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA built on a dossier demonstrably paid for by Hillary Rodham Clinton and somehow there's no Deep State fighting Trump? Please wake up.
Claiming that our systems are corrupted by globalist corporate interests? Really, you think Pharmaceuticals are all good? Have you looked at the fuckin' labels on those things for all the side-effects? And yet none of these "dark, suicidal thoughts" from SSRIs could possibly be involved in making kids into school shooters? Again, please wake up.
Claiming that a lot of these corporate interests are involved in dark practices? Do you really think there is no such thing as real Luciferianism or Satanism? I've seen plenty of evidence of dark practices like human trafficking and other evil occult behaviors that would make most people shudder. Oh, but just for a quick one: Tell me again why the Emmy awards run by an organization called the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences. (hint: NATAS = Satan backwards) Tell me again how Epstein was totally unconnected to people like Bill Clinton. Tell me again how Joe Biden just totally randomly decided on the phone service number 30330 = 2020/666. From my perspective, you're just ignoring the pattern because it's not something they couldn't just deny plausibly as "chance."
[... and let me head off a potential argument: yes Trump was on the list. But one of these are not like the others. Bill visited multiple times and Epstein even had a picture of Bill in a blue dress... really saucy. Trump apparently only once had anything to do with Epstein and clearly developed a hostile impression toward him given Trump's current positions... fuck the MSM for trying to equivocate the two cases.]
Do you understand intellectual property? The entire point of patents is to give a monopoly to someone. No patent means no monopoly. You have to deal with competition and that means less profitability because you need to market and you have to deal with efficiency optimization as part of the costs. Soros is a big money manipulator. He's not looking for chump profits. This guy manipulated the Bank of England. He's not playing silly games that he thinks he'd lose out on.
No, the narrative is not just "The Deep State did it all." In fact, the concept of a Deep State itself is very nebulous. Which "deep state?" Even Trump has his internal supporters in Military and Industry. That's just a natural function of how special interests work. Academic, religious, social and political cliques of all kinds exist underneath the hood. But this so-called Deep State that we're fingering at is a very specific one. The globalist deep state which believes that nations are bad and that Chinese style socialism is the best system to manage the world. This is what is operating to subvert the American democracy/republic at this time.
Through corrupted politicians on both sides of the aisle: A so called "duopoly" or "purple party" which comprises both RINO Republicans and corrupt Democrats (and even some third party candidates) acting as the political tools for their ambitions to subjugate American interests to the Globalist program which is now being presented as the "Great Reset" after COVID prepared the way. We've built the webs of connections and the organs all sing the same tune whenever we look. The Globalist Deep State aligned with the Rothschild banking systems and the Clinton and Biden campaigns is indeed a system that exists. Whether or not you choose to believe in its existence is immaterial. Go ahead, deny it exists... but from my perspective it's like an ostrich burying its head in a sand to deny a reality that it doesn't like.