I'm still new to Q (stumbled upon this 2 weeks ago) and I'm an evangelical non-charismatic Christian—a layperson with probably above average Bible knowledge. I'd like to share my perspective of possible logical conclusions if this Q stuff ends up being true in relation to an everyday Christian (like me).
1-liner conclusion
We, Christians, will believe the Bible to be even more true if this Q stuff ends up being true.
Long answer conclusion
First to give you my assumptions of Q in a summary:
Q is a US Military Operation. Behind this Military Operation is actually God working in a significant capacity. Spiritual warfare is also a significant part of this. This spiritual part is inferred from what JFK said about the reason for Special Ops.
In the end of this Q chapter that we're in (~early 2021), the general whole world population will come to the realization of:
- the wickedness that we've been ignorant of in the world.
- the general liberation of victims and the world of that wickedness.
- the nearness of the spiritual world that is so much closer than we normally thought.
- the prophetic-like manner of Q-drops and the precision and fulfillment.
- the lies of the world (Gov't, MSM, religious leaders [wolves in sheep clothing]).
- the likely disruption to the global financial system due to the realization of corruption and the legal consequences of nations, corporations and individuals taking part of corruption.
Therefore, if this Q stuff is true, here are my theorized conclusions:
..Possible Conclusion 1: The Church will be emboldened to declare the gospel. Did someone say, Revival?
I predict that the Church will be emboldened to declare the gospel and that this revival will both be in numbers of people coming to Christ and in the holiness in each individual Christian's life. I think there is a potential for a general world-wide moral revival based off of the disgust of the wickedness exposed.
When I write 'revival', I believe the intensity of it will be 1,000x more than what we picture when we think of revival right now. God tends to work in unexpected ways. Master strategist.
Although we know the truths of the Bible, we still come up with excuses not to do what is right. Right now, we are not emboldened for the winning of souls who do not know the gospel of Jesus Christ. Due to the whole world realization mentioned in the bullet points above, 90% of the reasons why we don't "soul-win" right now will be gone.
Current reasons for not soul-winning:
- Fear of what others will think of you. Dismissed because everyone's world-view will be shattered and will be looking for a new world-view to help them make sense of the world. MSM and current world narrative = SHATTERED.
- Lack of faith in God. Dismissed because the prophecy-like manner of Q-drops and the precision of fulfillment will empower the Christian to realize the power of prophecy in the Bible i.e. Historical Prophecy and Fulfillment in JC and prophecy of the end times that have yet to be fulfilled.
- Other priorities. Dismissed because, I predict something BIG is going to happen to money that will make us realize the futility of garnering up treasures on earth.
- Winning Catholics. My own thinking is that Catholicism and evangelical Christianity is close, yet so far. As a generalization, my basic understanding is:
Catholics believe ultimate truth = Catholic Church teachings + Bible.
Evangelical Christians believe ultimate truth = Bible.
If the Catholic Church is revealed to be vile and disgusting, I believe Catholics would be more ready to be won over.
..Possible Conclusion 2: Clearer interpretation of Biblical eschatology.
Note: I am NOT learned in eschatology at all. Very basic knowledge of this. I wouldn't be able to give you a timeline nor passage nor give you an overview of different valid Christian points of view. I'd also prefer the discussion to go more towards talking about the practical every-day implications rather than Biblical eschatology since I live in the present and truly am more interested in the present day-to-day life. :P
.....2a: NWO and Anti-Christ.
It may be that the peace in the end times for which the Anti-Christ will be part of is actually legitimate peace that was God-allowed and brought forth by the good-guys. The new world order might not be the NWO started by nefarious villains, but rather a new world order started by the good-guys that later gets perverted and the Anti-Christ rises from that. This goes the same for money.
.....2b: Third Temple.
I don't believe the Third Temple has been built yet (this is my father-in-law's belief. I don't study enough so I'll take his view). If it is to-be built, it may occur soon. As more and more peace deals are worked out between Israel and other nations, the Third Temple could be built at the proper place WITH THE PROPER MONEY. I remember an elder in my church talking about "following the vessels". In the Old Testament and early history, you follow the vessels (i.e. temple treasures) and determine whether they're with Israel or not--that's the general direction God is working. Don-cha-think money is going to be siezed from countries, entities, people from this? I heard the Rom Catholic Church has lots of it. I think I heard Romans plundered the temple/Israel in the early AD (I could be wrong on this).
Ironically, the supposed key player involved in this Q thing is named Ezra. And the guy with a PHD in math who, supposedly, reverse engineered what the DVS was doing is named Edward Solomon. Check out his YouTube—he live-streamed his analytical process so it shows his work from scratch.
Haha. Names matter.
..Possible Conclusion 3: More evidence of God's Character
.....3a: God's love, mercy and grace.
I always, up to 2 weeks ago, held the view that things will go bad—worse and worse—then the Church will be raptured, then the tribulation. Let's not talk about pre-trib, post-trib here, millennial kingdom stuff here.
The more important thing is: If great revival occurs--this honestly gives almost EVERYONE a chance to come to know Christ prior to the 7 year tribulation (if you hold the pre-trib view). And this ability to broadcast this message becomes more and more possible as technology advances and as global adoption of this technology occurs. Perhaps the time is now?
.....3b: God—the ultimate comedian.
I have this view of God that he's the ultimate comedian. My favorite form of comedy is irony. Think of all the ironies about this Q stuff. There are 1000s and probably more. Someone should start a thread on that.
God is also the ultimate troll! Think about it.
.....3c: God—the ultimate strategist.
I've also pondered: If God is behind this… Why did it start on an underground message board? I think the reason is due to the target audience. It's a commission to the age-group that can most relate to receiving information from internet message boards. The general target audience is not the ~70-90 year-old grandmas and grandpas. I believe the target audience is approx. the ~12-50 year-olds who would be familiar in getting info from message boards to bring the gospel to this generation. The 12-50 year-olds are the type of people who understand this.
You can also tell how this Q strategy is so spectacular. It's literally the most thrilling ride I've been on and brilliant thing I've experienced… ever! P.S. Q is not God
The state of the church now also makes sense with its many denominations. Some people say:
"If the church is to be one, why are there so many different denominations?"
I believe the answer now is to equip her to fight false prophets and false teaching. Think of the US Constitution and the different branches of government. The separation is there for the checks and balances for a more perfect union—the framers knew it wasn't going to be perfect. Apply the same to the church. Different denominations are there for the checks and balances for a more perfect union.
I also believe the ability for the Church to discern and fight false prophets and false teachings will be elevated even more as the spiritual world becomes more of a reality to our physical world. Many will be deceived.
Thanks for reading my write-up and would be happy to know your thoughts. I'd prefer a bit less on the eschatology and more re: practical implications but you are all free to share what you share. I'm sure I got some facts wrong and I'm also not American. I'm a Canadian rooting for you guys!
This is a part 2 since I did a write-up of other initial observations here: https://greatawakening.win/p/11RhOxc8Q7/believing-q-while-being-an-evang/
Of course, this Q stuff can all end up being a massive lie and rather, the ultimate LARP ever done. Which would be disappointing, but wouldn't shake my faith one bit.
If you like this post, please upvote and comment this thread so we can get more people to see and give their input.
Best thing I've read all day!!!!!
Thank you! Had to write it down or else... I'd go crazy.
Doesn't matter though. My wife already thinks I'm CRAY-CRAY.
Hi Jamaicajess,
I wrote two other posts after this. If you read them, I hope you like them. Check them out in my submitted posts.
https://greatawakening.win/u/greeneggsnham/?type=post
Hey RujoK97, I wrote 2 other posts and would love to hear your comments. Check them out in my submitted posts.
https://greatawakening.win/u/greeneggsnham/?type=post
TRU-DAT! LOL
Totally appreciate all you feedback. It gave me/will give me enough food for thought for probably a few days.
Also, good insight from your end about why Q's on the chans. I didn't think of that, but it very much makes sense. It very much aligns with my understanding of the character of God.
Re: the church and "End Days revival"--do you have a scripture reference for that? I'm not aware, but I'm also not learned in that.
Thanks for the references! I have read them before, but in non-charismatic evangelical circles, usually the thought is that these verses are misappropriated by charismatics as there is only one specific way to interpret it and that way is ______. I, myself, do not hold that view, but I am again, probably an average Bible reader not formally trained at a seminary (I, honestly, also believe that seminary training is not necessary to hold a correct and confident interpretation of passages, even difficult passages, in the Bible). I find that God often has double-meanings/triple-meanings behind his words.
I agree with all your points and your view of 2 Thess. is the same as the view as I held about it for a long time (even after I first read it in the kjv wording).
You have very encouraging and thoughtful words. Thanks for sharing!
I love this, thank you for this post! Regardless of the end result, you can see God's hand in what's going on. If Q is real (which it is) and the plan works (not as sure about this, but I'm very hopeful!), I also predict we'll see a great revival.
And if the plan fails and Biden gets inaugurated and we are all oppressed under Communist rule, that also sets the stage for a revival and the gospel will be spread. I'm reading a book called Tortured for Christ and it describes exactly this - the spreading of the gospel in Communist Romania through underground churches and other secret means.
Either way, people need hope and answers and they can find both in Jesus. We are so blessed to have hope in our Savior regardless of our circumstances. Many don't know Him and they are confused and afraid right now and in the days to come and it's our responsibility to share the truth with them (Matthew 28:19-20).
Agreed! It's very weird... As I looked into this stuff, something changed inside of me.
Literally, so many desires in me got dropped to ZERO. I am 'obsessed' with this Q stuff, but more so blown away and trying to make sense of this in light of what I know to be in Scriptures and how that relates to life.
I hope it's all true! Would be disappointing if this is all fake, but as time goes by... it seems to become more and more true!
Hey CeramicLady, I've been doing some more thinking and would totally appreciate your opinion.
Please checkout my other threads--especially what I think is the ultimate conclusion!
https://greatawakening.win/u/greeneggsnham/?type=post
Great post...Without going into a detailed explanation, I have always thought along 2 lines...The first being that if Trump fails, America fails. Which leans me towards we are very close if not already in the end times.
If Trump succeeds and America is "saved" it is only a temporary "saving", basically a delay in the inevitable.
I tend to believe that America will fall in one way or another before the second coming of Christ.
Either way, the people of this country need to turn to God now more than ever.
Agreed! I think most Christians hold the view that it's only downhill from here (i.e. no saving of America). I too held this view up until... maybe a few days ago. Part of this writeup is me trying to reconcile my beliefs if it ends up that Trump succeeds... which we all hope! And we all know that, truly, this isn't about Trump at all. He'd just be a shifty knight on the chess board.
Thank you for sharing.
Lol! That could be the case too.
If this is truly an act of God, then the next lie people will believe is that this is an act of a super intelligent computer.
Or if this is truly a super intelligent computer, then this is a truly super intelligent computer.
To expand further, you might want to look up who was Ezra in the Bible.
The issue is that Christianity is a sham. Half of the doctrine that you believe is false and Jesus Christ isn't in your "churches."
The Lord may be trolling but you're some of what he's laughing at. Just because the gifts of the spirit can be used and abused by non believers doesn't mean that you're His and the true definition of repentance is lost on you people. I know, I was deceived myself.
I appreciate the freedom that you feel in sharing your beliefs and response and I celebrate that. Seems like we're losing that nowadays.
I don't want to engage in discussion of what are the true beliefs one should hold, because this is a Q site to focus on Q topics, and this thread was created with a Christian target audience in mind to reconcile that set of beliefs with Q topics. I'm sure there are other places online for you to engage in civil discussion about the beliefs one should hold.
And if this Q thing ends up being correct... It will further expose the fake Christians. Wolves in sheep's clothing.
True Christians, from my understanding, continue in the faith. It's funny because there's a lot of betrayal to Pres. Trump from people we thought would be loyal and I feel like that itself is an allegory of people with Jesus Christ. True Christians stay with Him.
Absolutely. Just my viewpoint from being on both sides of the fence. Regardless of differences, we're in this fight together.
We can agree on this: in the end, God wins.
Agreed. Respect!
Indeed, my friend. God's plan has been laid out in scripture for us to see. The frustrating part is not always knowing how or when. This is one reason why faith is key.
I'm not a christian anymore but I can never deny that Jesus Christ is real, that He is God and that He is sovereign over all.
My write-up is specifically targeted for evangelical Christians to share their perspective. As I believe in free speech, you are also free to share.
Your comment reminds me about the many times Jesus rebukes devils.
I hear hell was prepared for the punishment for Satan and his angels. They are to burn in the lake of fire or the bottomless pit or both? You obviously know the Bible more than me so you would know.
I appreciate that you read my post tho!
It's fake news that a person can know another person's heart. Only God truly knows a person's heart.
Perhaps you've been trolled to believe a lie? Ponder that.
Dude! (or Gal!)--Thank you for providing scripture references to support my point.
I could call you "Bro!" or "Sis!" but that doesn't feel right.
God truly wants all to come to repentance.
You're right about the narrow way, but there's also the concept of making it too narrow.
Can you asked your friends, the Pharisees, about that?
Indeed. The mother of harlots is the RCC and her daughters are all the denominations of christianity, from methodists to Pentecostals.
Satan comes as an angel (messenger) of light. Both God and Satan operate through men and those men have corrupted the Bible and christian doctrine from the start.
Satan is able to deceive in the religious institutions of men because he doesn't tell lies outright. He mixes lies with truth, as we saw in the garden with Eve.
"You shall be as God, knowing good and evil." Truth.
"You shall not surely die." The lie.