But here on the brink of the destruction of our country, I have returned.
Throwaway acct, I am not in fact Richard Lewis. Us Reddit Refugees ought to be careful lol.
Know that you have silent supporters like myself wearing liberal clothes in a liberal state.
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With all respect - when you define yourself as a progressive, what does that mean to you?
Honestly for me it's about social liberties and healthcare that won't put you in debt. More libertarian leaning if I'm being honest, but I've supported a lot of people that people here typically wouldn't support.
like Bernie, Yang, especially Tulsi Gabbard.
I'm confused. Those are peoples who's policies are largely centered around some kind of government handout.
A government doesn't generate a single cent. They take and redistribute.
Stuff like UBI will require a huge ramp-up of 'take' and I can't see how that is in any way conducive towards libertarian values.
I didn't so much agree with Yang as I did appreciate him as the breath of fresh air on the debate stage, UBI is something of the far future. Healthcare however should be of grave concern to everyone that's not a veteran and doesn't get free insurance through their job.
I get it, there’s plenty to go around. Unfortunately there’s probably no equitable way to get it to the right places because power corrupts, etc.
And to Yang’s credit, he did get on TV and say that the Democrats are the party of the costal elite and that they’ve lost touch with reality. So credit where credit is due.
Psst - healthcare =/= health insurance.
Also, the cost of health care as we know it today is likely grossly inaccurate to the true cost of it (much like a 10 cent plastic mold can be sold for like 60$). Break the monopolies in big pharma, and restructure the government's ties to hospitals, and suddenly you probably won't need universal health insurance, or any of this other nonsense the left tends to push for.
Doesn't answer my core question.
UBI is merely a poster child of examples. Bernie is a self-proclaimed socialist and Tulsi also leans towards bigger government in all her flip-flops (though I admit her flip-flops are far more grounded in reality compared to other Dems). Heathcare is great thing but also another project that requires massive funds.
So again, I can't see how increasing government involvement by creating more justification for bigger 'takes' is conducive to libertarian values in any way.
*just to be clear, I'm not talking in 'right or wrong' basis but in terms of 'conflicting directions'
Actually, I think a lot of Bernie supporters switched over to Trump - many bc they originally saw Bernie as someone who wanted to get rid of the corruption but then realized that he was corrupt like the rest of them - or at least wouldn't stand up against the corruption - not even when it made him lose his primary.
Tulsi Gabbard has her good points.
Yang is an Omidyar puppet, and I wouldn't trust him with my shoe.
I get the healthcare, but it can't be socialized or we're screwed - they'll force all kinds of stuff on us. What do you mean by social liberties?
I mean people should be able to do what they want. From marriage to drugs to guns.
I personally believe someone's sex preference (as long as its between adults capable of informed consent) is between them and God. However, just as I wouldn't force my heterosexuality in someones face, I don't want someones sexuality thrown in mine, and I certainly don't want my kindergarten-age child being taught to question their gender or my 5th grade child being taught how to have anal sex with a cucumber - because that infringes on my child's right to an "innocent" childhood and my right as a parent to make decisions in the best interests of my children.
I'm okay with legalization of marijuana because it's natural which is more than I can say for alcohol. My problem with legalizing other drugs has more to do with their addictive nature (if heroin was legalized, more people would be willing to try it and, bc it's highly addictive even after one use, more people would end up addicted.) Plus the social cost of addiction.
As far as guns, I disagree with red flag laws and registration - b c, let's face it, most criminals don't have registered guns , and, in most states there are already mental health procedures in place to deal with those who are considered dangerous to themselves or others..
Please take a look at Thomas Sowell’s “Basic Economics”.
It’s basically economics for dummies and does a fantastic job showing that the free market is pretty much the only way to solve these problems. He cites numerous examples from communist, capitalist, and feudal countries.
Prices in certain sectors are so high specifically because the government gets involved. Healthcare, student loans, housing.
Yes, these problems exist, but Yang and Tulsa’s solutions only exacerbate the problem. They use a smokescreen promising things they can never deliver. Higher taxes only ever lead to more waste and more corruption.
I knew this comment was coming lol, I'll read your book.
Respectfully, People here, voted for bush/obama.
This isn't a partisan fight, this is a fight to determine whether America is taken over by foreign powers and domestic criminals.
Exactly, this isn’t a partisan, political hivemind. I’m centre-left economically myself and I fit in fine. Welcome aboard, patriot!
I had the same question... What core values matter most to you? Trump’s movement of taking the government and putting it back in control of the people does not align with the way I understand progressive values. No disrespect intended, but I thought progressive values were supporting larger government with higher taxes.
I believe that even the progressive movement has been hijacked, there's so much crazy shit going on in the left it's disheartening. I know a lot of good people with good intentions that will believe every talking point and goal of the left, but realistically I don't think you can equate pure democrat with progressivism.