Are you guys serious? OK, I am not a Glock guy, but there is no way anyone can say which Glock it is, they are all the same shape wise, especially in video of this quality. But that's a minor point that made me smile since its irrelevant to the discussion. Did a quick check just now, the only reference I could find is that Capitol cop left a gun in bathroom, Glock 22, which makes it .40. Assuming .40
Angle wise could be debatable, I can see your point. Or not.
A .40 will do lots of damage to the neck. Either .40/.45 would rip a large chunk of her neck out, easily so, can't imagine Capitol cops using ball ammo, which does less damage and would more than likely simply pass through.
One detail is making me think that this was staged, after all. The camera is only following the gun, as if staged manner. As if, keep recording this particular action and never mind all other guns directly to your right (D.C. cops?, SWAT?). Just one particular gun out of them all.
Oh, and one more very key detail. Either .40/.45, ball or HP, at this distance, would not only rip and go through neck, but the bullet would then hit the wall behind. I do not see that, I see no chunk of wall shattering, I see no hole, I see nothing falling, I see NO BLOOD SPLATTER a shot like that WILL CREATE to her right on the wall/window sill. See any? There is no way neck muscles stop a .40/.45 at this distance, no way.
And one more point, I may as well. Knowing the soi boys, even one shot, at this close distance would a very loud report and make them all run like crazy for cover and safety. You see anyone doing that?
No 9mm I know would NOT EASILY SO rip through the neck muscles. I am only a 9mm guy, and love the caliber. But let's stop this right now, waste of time, 9mm is not the "child's caliber" so many old times who rarely even shoot it claim. Advances in ballistics in the past 20 odd years were primarily in 9mm, by far. And some 9mm cartridges have similar ballistics to a .40/.45 these days. Caliber does not matter in this particular case, they would ALL do same damage at this distance against a neck.
Gov issued ammo easily rips through 16-18 inches of ballistic jello, doesn't matter the caliber, that neck size I saw is what, just a few inches deep AT BEST?
Stop concentrating on ballistics and lack of blood splatter if you're still confused on the subject. Answer one other key question to end this charade and discussion: Do you see any soi boys running for cover, especially the guy with the phone recording (he simply just turns to follow the action as if nothing happened) right after the shot?
Also, you are seemingly unaware, but in most cases such as this one a cop would be making a DOUBLE TAP, not a single shot, and NOT run for cover as he did afterwards, he'd be scraeming t "Back off!" or some such to warn rest of crowd not to attempt any more intrusion.
This was a poorly thought out Hollyweird production, by all signs. You know, guys who do not know much about guns and make these productions to fool the "useful idiots". Which they seemingly did.
I see no soi boys running for cover. End of discussion.
I was going to address your points last night but deleted them, being aware of eyes spying on the win sites (CBC this morning reporting on thedonald's posts ) . We don't want to give the press any ammo right at this time, taking posts about firearm use in here out of context.
Regardless of the caliber, the big picture of this thread - was the shooter a hard-core blm supporter like the article in the OP says?? And bad actors involved - further proof of this would be very interesting...
Did not want to get into gun discussion, but needed to point out utter lack of blood stains, which is a dead giveaway to anyone who knows anything about ballistics, thus pointing out a staged event.
9 will easily create lots of damage, almost on par with .40/.45 given new loads, and will EASILY create LOTS of blood splatter. as well as rip a chunk of neck out on the way out That neck is not 16-18 inches of ballistic jello, no matter how much one wants to believe that. Its a dead end argument.
I am not even sure live ammo was used judging by the serve lack of flash. No flash at all. The more I look at the video, gun wise, the more it looks clownish.
I saw no soi boys running, dead giveaway this was staged. That alone is enough. No need to discuss ballistics and flash report.
Are you guys serious? OK, I am not a Glock guy, but there is no way anyone can say which Glock it is, they are all the same shape wise, especially in video of this quality. But that's a minor point that made me smile since its irrelevant to the discussion. Did a quick check just now, the only reference I could find is that Capitol cop left a gun in bathroom, Glock 22, which makes it .40. Assuming .40
Angle wise could be debatable, I can see your point. Or not.
A .40 will do lots of damage to the neck. Either .40/.45 would rip a large chunk of her neck out, easily so, can't imagine Capitol cops using ball ammo, which does less damage and would more than likely simply pass through.
One detail is making me think that this was staged, after all. The camera is only following the gun, as if staged manner. As if, keep recording this particular action and never mind all other guns directly to your right (D.C. cops?, SWAT?). Just one particular gun out of them all.
Oh, and one more very key detail. Either .40/.45, ball or HP, at this distance, would not only rip and go through neck, but the bullet would then hit the wall behind. I do not see that, I see no chunk of wall shattering, I see no hole, I see nothing falling, I see NO BLOOD SPLATTER a shot like that WILL CREATE to her right on the wall/window sill. See any? There is no way neck muscles stop a .40/.45 at this distance, no way.
And one more point, I may as well. Knowing the soi boys, even one shot, at this close distance would a very loud report and make them all run like crazy for cover and safety. You see anyone doing that?
I call setup.
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No 9mm I know would NOT EASILY SO rip through the neck muscles. I am only a 9mm guy, and love the caliber. But let's stop this right now, waste of time, 9mm is not the "child's caliber" so many old times who rarely even shoot it claim. Advances in ballistics in the past 20 odd years were primarily in 9mm, by far. And some 9mm cartridges have similar ballistics to a .40/.45 these days. Caliber does not matter in this particular case, they would ALL do same damage at this distance against a neck.
Gov issued ammo easily rips through 16-18 inches of ballistic jello, doesn't matter the caliber, that neck size I saw is what, just a few inches deep AT BEST?
Stop concentrating on ballistics and lack of blood splatter if you're still confused on the subject. Answer one other key question to end this charade and discussion: Do you see any soi boys running for cover, especially the guy with the phone recording (he simply just turns to follow the action as if nothing happened) right after the shot?
Also, you are seemingly unaware, but in most cases such as this one a cop would be making a DOUBLE TAP, not a single shot, and NOT run for cover as he did afterwards, he'd be scraeming t "Back off!" or some such to warn rest of crowd not to attempt any more intrusion.
This was a poorly thought out Hollyweird production, by all signs. You know, guys who do not know much about guns and make these productions to fool the "useful idiots". Which they seemingly did.
I see no soi boys running for cover. End of discussion.
I was going to address your points last night but deleted them, being aware of eyes spying on the win sites (CBC this morning reporting on thedonald's posts ) . We don't want to give the press any ammo right at this time, taking posts about firearm use in here out of context.
Regardless of the caliber, the big picture of this thread - was the shooter a hard-core blm supporter like the article in the OP says?? And bad actors involved - further proof of this would be very interesting...
Did not want to get into gun discussion, but needed to point out utter lack of blood stains, which is a dead giveaway to anyone who knows anything about ballistics, thus pointing out a staged event.
Point taken.
9 will easily create lots of damage, almost on par with .40/.45 given new loads, and will EASILY create LOTS of blood splatter. as well as rip a chunk of neck out on the way out That neck is not 16-18 inches of ballistic jello, no matter how much one wants to believe that. Its a dead end argument.
I am not even sure live ammo was used judging by the serve lack of flash. No flash at all. The more I look at the video, gun wise, the more it looks clownish.
I saw no soi boys running, dead giveaway this was staged. That alone is enough. No need to discuss ballistics and flash report.
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