Don't know much about politics pre Reagan (or even pre Bush tbh), were these two swamp? I know JFK cheated Nixon out of the presidency the first time but did Nixon eventually fall into swamp?
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EVERY president since Hoover has been appointed or controlled by the deep state, with the exception of JFK right before he was removed and Trump.
The elections have been rigged for a long time. Eventually, the candidate chosen by both parties was always either part of, or handled by, the deep state. JFK was the same, but he had a change of heart, or fully realized what he had gotten into, and tried to blow the lid off it. Then paid with his life.
The DS assumed they could control JFK because of Joe Kennedy’s deep ties to the Mafia. Joe probably assured them that John could be controlled.
When it became crystal clear that JFK had morals and was an honest man, they killed him.
i would argue that eisenhower was a maverick. imo he ran for office to piss truman off. media regarded him as a simpleton at the time.
Reagan?
Yes. Look at what he did, not what he said. He policies, voting history, and actions betray his words.
This. The deep state at the time understood not just one side distrusted the government then. That was a time when everyone did. They needed someone who "put back trust into the government" into the normie eyes.
Reagan was controlled via Bush, right? He himself wasn't deep state but Bush was and he undermined him. If I got those facts right
Both were sponsored by the deep state. No matter who wins the election, they win, because they control both sides. Trump was an amazing anomaly that broke the cycle.
Imo the beginning of the end for the swamp was trying to stack the deck for swamp Democrat over swamp Republican. The media never built up GOP candidates from 2008-2016 because they had become beholden to Democrat only. My suspicion is Obama rigged the 2012 election, his ego was too big and couldn’t take being a 1 term president and losing to a guy who was supposed to just be a jobber to him in Romney. The media loved Obama but the people could see through him. From 2012-2015 the plan was them formed with Trump and the military to take the election to save democracy.