Exactly, I've tried warning patriots for years but have been met with "glowly" "antifa" "Faggot, all the names, and now they realise they are useful idiots too and won't even apologise

This. My biggest turn off to Q and why I've kept away from it other than hoping for some hopium the last few weeks is it should have everything for me, I love conspiracies, numerology ect..but it feels really forced and the ways people draw conclusions isn't just numerology it's a lot of just adding arbitrary 'signs' together to force puzzle pieces..idk it just felt like the Operation Trust and to keep the right calmer into a transition..which is fucked because this whole election was fucked and fucking stolen and everyone here should've been out making noise about the evidence we did have and not thinking 2 generals are going to suddenly become mercenaries..

But explain to me why the Q Skeptics were prevented from taking action? Why did you need the Q followers to lead you? Since the claim is the Q followers are all idiots, why would the Q Skeptics want their help anyway?

It makes no logical sense. The Q Skeptics did not take action themselves and refuse to admit that to themselves. So they blame Q and claim it was Q who prevented them from doing anything, even though they never listened to Q. If anything, the argument from Q Skeptics should be that Q helped you guys by distracting all the people you consider idiots while the Q Skeptics took the action that mattered.

I understand Q seems fake right now. That is fine. But the Q Proofs are still substantial, so if Q was on the side of the Deep State, then that would have to mean Trump was too. So now we have to try to figure out, if that is true, why the Deep State, globalists, and corporate media went through this entire Trump charade. Because as a plan, that ALSO doesn’t seem to make a lot of sense.

Question everything. Kinda sad how willing people are to let others do all the work for them.

I respectfully disagree. I personally have always been 50-50 on Qannon but most Q supporters did not placate. They were donating and volunteering along with the rest of us. Their were Q supporters who had a recall Newsome stand set up close to my house in California. Our hard work paid off. Trump won. this election was stolen. plain and simple.

But Trump proofs? He would be in it too?

You know what. Maybe everyone is Deep State. Maybe we're alone

I don't believe so, but if it was, then it was a huge mistake on their part to awaken the population to their crimes. Once seen, it cannot be unseen.

I find that angle hard to believe. I don't think the Q movement pacified or swerved any uprising that was going to happen. An uprising wasn't going to happen then and an uprising isn't going to happen now. The right just isn't about that sort of thing. Look at today, everybody has failed us from many of our fellow citizens who helped with the vote fraud, to the SC to pols on "our" side (that's a laugh) to the alphabets (naturally) to probably even military "leadership". We aren't going to go smash stuff or hurt people or form mobs.

I simply believe Trump, Q and all of us were up against a beast that we still can't comprehend. We tried and failed at what we hoped to achieve. I'd rather fail than not try in the first place.

So following this argument Trump would have to have been in on it.