Hello, I was browsing these forums and see people who dislike Socialism and Communism, but I was kinda wondering if any of y'all would like to deep dive on the subject and give me reasons you don't like the ideologies? Hoping to have a civil and open discussion, thank you in advance :)
Edit: I'm only human, sorry if it takes a bit for me to respond
This, honestly, is the worst line of argumentation that I repeatedly hear.
Okay, so Communism, by definition, has to be stateless, classless, and moneyless.
What happens when there's people that don't want to play along? Because, good luck convincing 100% of society that we should forgo private property rights as currently understood. Well, there has to be some entity that has the authority, by means of the threat of force, to make people comply. However you want to slice it, that entity amounts to a de facto state. And, as seen played out throughout history, it's likely authoritarian in nature.
When the above plays out, the next generation of ever-naive Communists can point to it and say "B-b-but it's not real Communism!"
The conditions of classless and moneyless aren't even worth seriously entertaining. There's a reason 100% of the time whenever a new society has emerged from scratch, some form of class hierarchy and some form of currency have always organically emerged. The complexity required to sustain increasing societal growth and technological development without those would be unfeasible.