I keep reading content about ending the USA Corporation and reverting back to the United States of 1871.
Maybe someone can explain this better? Because it just seems like a red herring to me.
Even if whatever about it were true, what does reverting to the former really get us, more than a symbolic gesture? Back to a system of checks and balances with three branches of government elected by the states at their discretion?
That's what we had, corporation or not. And it failed because all branches were in bed with each other to serve themselves. Reverting would still prescribe government as we have it, would it not?
So what's the significance? Is there some hope that dissolving "the corporation" somehow invalidates the results of the fraud election? If so, how? And how does that work in practice?
There are various notions of (among other things):
These notions are mixed up into countless combinations with other sorts of... conspiracy theories?... whether such theories are oriented towards reality or not, or whether or not such orientation is in any way relevant, or whether or not reality itself is significant in the context of said theories. That is to say, notwithstanding the validity of these "theories", the conjunction of the theories with notions such as the three list above, diminishes the credence of the theories.
The motivations behind any of this have varied over the years, all the way back to the founding of the United States after 1776 (the first inklings of a "US Corporation" date to the time of the original constitution). The most recent significant motivations involve attempts to evade Income Tax and attempts to evade the Draft. Before that, motivations involved efforts to either accelerate or decelerate "Reconstruction" in the south, to sustain or revoke racist laws throughout the nation, etc. Important to note is that on many of the divisive issues between the Civil War and WWI, both sides appealed to the above notions (among others) in support of their side.
You can read the "Act of 1871" here: https://www.loc.gov/law/help/statutes-at-large/41st-congress/session-3/c41s3ch62.pdf - and see that most of the claims made against and/or derived from it are non sequitur at best.
See also some of my rants about this on other threads.
My theory on all of this, is that someone shrewd has injected the "US Corporation" and "gold fringe flag" memes amongst us as red herring, knowing full well that anyone under the age of about 50 is extremely unlikely to have encountered these memes in the past.
It's more important to look at what these memes purport to demonstrate, to wit: the idea that a shadowy cabal secretly rules and owns us under the rubric of said "corporation". That's the "conspiracy theory" part. The cabal may indeed be real, and thus the theory may be more than a theory. If you accept the truth of the cabal, what is the point of the "corporation". There is no point. Such a cabal is going to rule and own the world just because they can. Laws, contracts, none of that matters if the cabal is real. The same applies if, say, extraterrestrial aliens rule the Earth: literally nothing else truly matters if that is the case.
I am torn as to whether or not the red herring is for us, or against us; whether it's a form of red pill, or blue pill.
Appreciate the comment. Never quite thought about if those 3 bullets you outlined even matter at all in the context of a cabal ruling the world.
Think about it sorta like this.
Donald Trump = President of the United States
Joe Biden = President of Washington DC, a bankrupt nation-city.
Okay, but if such were the case why would Biden get any access, to the white house, to the military, all the official comm channels, etc. ?
Why confuse servicemen over whose orders to accept? Would you accept the orders of who everyone else in fed govt is going along with, or some legal contract? I would go along with the chain of command as I understand it.
So how does it lead to a purging of the swamp by revoking a corporate status, when the election fraud was carried out pursuant to both overlapping charters?
Im still not seeing it.
I think everything now is theater, to wake up the brainwashed masses before full declas so they won't just blame Trump as a military dictator. If current Biden (a fake/double...curious how he is suddenly left handed?) is a paper tiger, then his actions now are not going to be enacted but are merely a demo for the lefties of just what kind of insanity they supported.
It’s okay. I’m not here to make you see it. Do your own research.
Why don’t you want to engage in any discussion? This dude is asking legitimate questions. Wasn’t Q’s main instruction for us to do our own research and share/spread information? By shutting down the discussion in a rude way you’ve done a disservice to this board
You just answered your question with your question.
He should do his own research. Research is not just demanding info from a random on the internet. He wanted to drag me into an opinion argument.
No due respect, but maybe don’t worry about me and help out your bud that posted this thread with the answers he seeks?
Maybe a better use of your time?
I’m also curious to know the answers. I’ve researched the corporation entity. I think what I’m looking for is a better understanding of the mechanics, just like this guy. I’m not a lawyer just a layman who is trying to understand this theory and looking for critical thinking and discussion on it
Fair enough. I will choose to believe you are sincere
But I just don’t feel the need to help you better understand it.
If you dig enough, you will come to your own conclusions.
Too many people on here just want to get into an argument.
Agreed, fair enough I’ll do some more digging. Shadilay!
Sorry, I have to agree with the poster above. A fren is looking for assistance. Why not explain? We have to help each other see. If we don't stick together, we have nothing
Why not explain? I’ll explain.
Because this place has more than enough avenues to explore before someone should start demanding concrete spoon fed answers from a random on the internet.
Also, someone posted a link for him to read. Did you read it? Did he?
Why are you so focused on me? Weird.
Do you think that me responding to your comment means I am focused on you?
Okay. I have and these are my conclusions and pending questions. Are you not able to source or explain this USA corp thing?
Are you not reading any of the other threads here?
Do you think we are here to think for you?
Are you trying to drag people into a silly argument?
We both know the answers to these 3 questions.
You've typed many words to me but none were counters or answers.
Go in peace.
The answer was find the answers for yourself.
Just go.
I would look at this comment and the reply I made to it. I still feel like I'm missing something, or maybe a lot of somethings, but it at least helped me a bit.
Here is further commentary that can be found: https://teamlaw.net/Mythology-CorpUS.htm
https://teamlaw.net/history.htm Read this...
Just wanted to add a link for people to get some more detail on a point that really shocked me in your link. Your link has a bullet that reads, in part, "which recognized the people of the United States of America are enemies of Corp. U.S."
Here's another link that provides more context on that bullet.
https://scannedretina.com/2014/04/01/congress-declares-american-citizens-as-the-enemy-declares-war-1933/