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posted ago by Rooks ago by Rooks +21 / -1

So someone asked me to explain sovereign citizen to them in a comment. IMO, in order to really understand what is being asked there you have to understand something about contracts as well.

I hope the moderators will agree with me that this discussion is very much on point, or at least close to the core of what the Q movement is trying to reveal. Also it seems this is a portion of what Q is trying to help people understand. So, this is my admittedly very poor attempt to offer some clarification on the subject.

Someone help me if I'm wrong (will probably get parts wrong).

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CONTRACTS

As I understand it, because America is currently a corporation, it has to do a lot with contract law. I had law in college, and it helps TREMENDOUSLY to understand this stuff, can't recommend it enough. Anyways.....

Contracts in general outline how two or more parties interact with each other: terms, enrichment, expected behavior, penalties for aberration, etc. Contracts confirm in a written form what two or more entities have orally agreed upon in case of need for clarity.

Once the parties agree and sign off, you are obligated by contract law to follow it through to its conclusion. Most contracts are self fulfilling, and terminate when the conditions are completed.

Example, deliver goods from point a to b, get paid, no more terms, so contract terminated. So far so good? Good.

So, simple contracts, not so bad, end after short term, sometimes longish term, like with your cell phone provider, few years, not so bad.

However, the question then becomes, what happens if the contract is open ended, and doesn't have an end, or a clause that lets you terminate the contract? (<insert suspenseful thunder/lighting here>)

The idea here, however, is that you contracted at some point to be a party in a contract with the USA Corp. and those agreements have no expiration date (except death, I guess).

Example, once you are of age it is optional for you to pay income taxes. If you ever read the booklet that comes with your 1040 (I did) there are a few lines in there that are puzzling, including one that says paying federal income tax is optional. I don't know if that is still in there, or buried elsewhere. Once you start paying taxes however, you have entered into the contract, agree to terms of paying each year, and are obligated to continue until death presumably, by the terms of the tax code.

You are now an entity trapped by contract law.

Same for purchasing property, getting a license, SSN, etc. Pretty much anything to do with current lifestyles and living requires you to be a contract entity, and enter into contracts.

Contracts deal with sudo people, fake people, they call an Entity. Two entities can enter into a contract, and it is binding. Originally the idea we were told was it was to make it so you could have a business enter into contracts. Businesses aren't living, breathing things, and you can't imprison them for breach of contract. The officers of a business, but not the business itself, it is not alive. So they had to make them "living", because only people could enter into agreements.

When you file for a business license of almost any kind, you are creating an entity, with rights and obligations, just like a person. It now pays taxes, files for various licenses, permission to operate in different states or countries, can now own things, sell things, and do many things that a regular person can.

Still following? Good.

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SOVEREIGNTY

Now , I have to admit, this post is getting long. Also, this is where I get fuzzy, as most of my experience is with contracts. If someone can chime in with corrections or clarifications, I appreciate. I apologize in advance for my ignorance on this.

In Essence, my understanding says In real America (Not USA Corp.) you are a "sovereign person" with rights as outlined in the constitution and bill of rights, granted by God, all that stuff. You are not an entity, that demeans you and your rights. Entities are limited in freedom, and in their ability to do certain things.

For you to exercise these rights, you should not have to enter into contracts with others. By virtue of being a person you have rights with or without contractual obligation and cannot be forced into obligation just to exercise those rights.

Contract law actually does not bind onto a sovereign person (known just as a person for the purposes of this discussion, its shorter!). Due to their freedoms, at least not in the way contracts are now. A person's liberty and freedoms had to be restricted or reduced, so businesses could enter into binding contracts with them and have them stick. An agreement between a person and a person is binding. an agreement between a person and an entity is not, unless the person agrees to give up some of their freedoms to become an entity, and therefore can be obligated (forced?) to live up to their contracts.

Certain laws still exist which clarify the position of sovereignty, including maritime laws, which is why they get referenced by people claiming sovereignty.

I could be way off base, but this is my understanding from being explained it once, like 10 years ago. I'll try and see if I can find more research on it, a lot of it is suppressed by MSM (big surprise).

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Ok, I know I'm just getting going, but I'm out of steam and have to go to work tomorrow. To be continued either in the comments or a followup post. If you made it this far, you are a good human, thanks.