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Executive Action versus Executive Order...been wondering about that. Ji Xiden used the "Action" term very early on. I'd never heard of an EA. There seems to be a distinction with an EA being quite informal. Any thoughts? I didn't find much that laid it out clearly. (www.thoughtco.com)
posted 5 years ago by TakeItBack 5 years ago by TakeItBack +12 / -0
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– intellectual-darkweb 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Is what he’s been signing EO’s or EA’s?

Federal Registrar now reflects the 17 EO’s.

https://www.federalregister.gov/presidential-documents/executive-orders

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– TakeItBack [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

We really have no way of knowing. All I heard was him saying--and I cannot link to anything right now--was that he was going to sign some EAs. Being that he's a shell of a human being, I passed it off as just more nonsense from him but in a cursory search, found that there is a distinction. If they're in the FR, then perhaps they were EOs BUT, given the illegitimacy of that whole circus, who really knows? Thank you for the comment and pointing to the FR.

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– intellectual-darkweb 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I agree it could all be a show (I really, really hope so). Interesting that he’s not targeted certain Trump EO’s (foreign election interference, human trafficking assets) or rescinded the emergency declaration.

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– TakeItBack [S] 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I'd agree with you.

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– hk7335 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Isn't it true that EOs only apply to people in the gov? And, since the Act of 1871 is so popular now, I guess they would apply to anyone living in D.C.? Suggesting that EOs would have direct impact on civilians means that Beijing Biden can legislate from the oval office, right?

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– TakeItBack [S] 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Yes, that's true although we've seen the executives in DC use them for whatever they wanted in more recent years. They were meant to be communication from the executive where, for instance, he needed more paper clips (from Michael Badnarik). In the years since the ratification of the Constitution for the United States, we've seen them used for anything and everything. It was distressing to see POTUS have to resort to EOs for things that needed to be done. I guess I need to go through the list of what he generated. Regardless, I am sure that Ji Xiden thinks that he can "rule" by EO....or EA. Those documents most certainly SHOULD have NO effect on we, the people. Given that we are quite sure that his reign is pretty much a facade, his blatherings most likely won't go far. Thank you for the comment; I appreciate it.

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– hk7335 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

You're welcome! Thanks for the comprehensive reply. So, based on your take, coupled with the USACorp revelations, I wonder if the states may in fact be operating as subsidiary corporations to DC., and so EO/A's would have a trickle down effect into the states and then the county level. That would explain a lot of how state and local govs have been doing end-runs around the constitution for years, using adhesion contracts to enforce otherwise unconstitutional actions. I know none of our municipal courts are Article III.

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– TakeItBack [S] 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Well, if you think about it, all of our towns are incorporated; they would have to include the states as well to complete the fraud. I believe that pretty much everything has been incorporated, therefore, part of the corporation, therefore illegitimate. EOs might have a trickle down effect BUT, if we, the people knew our unalienable rights and that no government can tell us what to do--they have no authority to rule our behavior, none of it would matter. Of course, if we knew these things, the corporations would probably have been removed long ago. Any public servant in office today and for the past many years has no clue about how our government is to be run--a Republican form of government. They take their oaths as just something to be said and then forgotten. They get away with EVERYTHING because the people are ignorant. Our common law Article 3 courts were abrogated in 1934 by the BAR. That means that none of them have ANY jurisdiction whatsoever. It is up to the people to (1) learn that, (2) learn the significance of that, (3) learn what they need to do to regain their power, duties and responsibilities. We have been a "set it and forget it" population who have been led to believe that if we vote, however ignorantly, we're done. And, here we are.

Thanks much for the convo.

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– hk7335 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Likewise.

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– TakeItBack [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I agree. I still wondered about EO versus EA though.

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– TakeItBack [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

First post.....wanted to add another link: https://www.thoughtco.com/executive-actions-versus-executive-orders-3367594

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